Voting Rights vote

[vi edit]

It's all of it. It's getting a Democratic supreme court nominee able to be sat instead of making up some bullshit excuse "Well we won't sit anyone in an election year" and then ramming one through for your team a week before a fucking election. Good faith died decades ago. Having enough republican senators to convict a republican president in the Nixon era was the end of it. Good faith is dead. It's now defend the party before anything else.

 

[Grey_Beard]

Seems our minority leader reacts more viscerally to someone who supports open, free and inclusive elections than the purveyors of “The Big Lie” which it seems to now be a fundamental part of the Republicon platform.

McConnell calls Biden's speech 'beneath his office' https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/12/politics/mitch-mcconnell-biden-speech-reaction/index.html

 

[eelw]

Lol yup hypocrite much. Senator Tammy Duckwork being interviewed about voting rights. When asked, are you giving up on Republican senators that support the John Lewis bill? Well privately they have told me they support it. But they can't because this is the red line McConnell has drawn. So we have no choice but to do it along party lines.

Like yes I know Moscow Mitch is a hypocrite. But got to love being thrown under the bus about him blocking bipartisan bills.

 

[fskimospy]

Seems our minority leader reacts more viscerally to someone who supports open, free and inclusive elections than the purveyors of “The Big Lie” which it seems to now be a fundamental part of the Republicon platform.

McConnell calls Biden's speech 'beneath his office' https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/12/politics/mitch-mcconnell-biden-speech-reaction/index.html

Man is Mitch McConnell going to be mad when he reads about some of the stuff the president right before this one said.

 

[trenchfoot]

Our GOP overlords will just rewrite the history books to paint them as heroes.

I'm thinking a rewrite won't suffice for the Repubs to have the books read things their way. They will have to write totally new history books and go as far back as the War of Northern Aggression back in 1861 where the southern armies were the actual winners and slavery wasn't such a big deal to start a war to begin with, onward into the era where the KKK were the true patriots of the nation that kept the negroes and the other inferior subordinate races in their place and into the present where Donald Trump is somehow a genius that walks on water and the guy that made Putin and Kim Jong un his bitches.

 

[hal2kilo]

Exactly - like when the next coup attempt comes why exactly do people think it will save us if they can point to a law that says 'no coups allowed' or whatever?

If/when it happens the only thing that will matter is how much political force and how much actual force each party can bring to bear.

Sounds like you are saying it's time to take up arms.

 

[HomerJS]

Seems our minority leader reacts more viscerally to someone who supports open, free and inclusive elections than the purveyors of “The Big Lie” which it seems to now be a fundamental part of the Republicon platform.

McConnell calls Biden's speech 'beneath his office' https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/12/politics/mitch-mcconnell-biden-speech-reaction/index.html

He must have been napping during some of Trump's pontifications. I don't recall any of those being beneath the office.

 

[fskimospy]

Sounds like you are saying it's time to take up arms.

I'm not, I'm just saying if/when they try another coup we should not delude ourselves into thinking the law will save us.

 

[gothuevos]

How can you ignore the very next sentence in that post? Was I unclear?

Yes, and?

There will be no nonpartisan attempts at anything nor will the 14th be used.

Sorry not trying to needle you, just not seeing any "solution" you're proposing.

 

[hal2kilo]

Interesting article about a possible weapon against Republican elections fuckery.

The Forgotten Constitutional Weapon Against Voter Restrictions - POLITICO

Under the so-called penalty clause, it doesn’t matter how a state abridges the right to vote, or even why. The framers of the constitutional amendment worried that they would not be able to predict all the creative ways that states would find to disenfranchise Black voters. They designed the clause so that they wouldn’t have to. “No matter what may be the ground of exclusion,” Sen. Jacob Howard, a Republican from Michigan, explained in 1866, “whether a want of education, a want of property, a want of color, or a want of anything else, it is sufficient that the person is excluded from the category of voters, and the State loses representation in proportion.”

 

[Lezunto]

hal2kilo,

Will this clause actually work?

 

[akenbennu]

Interesting article about a possible weapon against Republican elections fuckery.

The Forgotten Constitutional Weapon Against Voter Restrictions - POLITICO

Under the so-called penalty clause, it doesn’t matter how a state abridges the right to vote, or even why. The framers of the constitutional amendment worried that they would not be able to predict all the creative ways that states would find to disenfranchise Black voters. They designed the clause so that they wouldn’t have to. “No matter what may be the ground of exclusion,” Sen. Jacob Howard, a Republican from Michigan, explained in 1866, “whether a want of education, a want of property, a want of color, or a want of anything else, it is sufficient that the person is excluded from the category of voters, and the State loses representation in proportion.”

Sounds good in theory, but what's the enforcement mechanism?

 

[Indus]

Right now 18% of the population elects 52% of the Senate. Think that is good for Democracy? Without those bills things like that will continue to erode.

If that is not proof that the system is broken and needs to be rebuilt from the ground up, I don't know what is.

 

[hal2kilo]

Sounds good in theory, but what's the enforcement mechanism?

Not a constitutional lawyer, but I found this interesting considering the depravity of the Republicans towards picking their electorate.