Voting machine manufacturer’s lawsuits thread

Page 7 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
14,731
10,793
136
There was a separate thread started for this latest news. I'm going to add my post in that thread here to keep it up to date.

Dominion had previously sued Lindell, Powell and Giuliani. Now they have added Fox News.

Smartmatic has sued: Fox News, Maria Bartarimo, Lou Dobbs, Powell, Giuliani.
 

Lost_in_the_HTTP

Diamond Member
Nov 17, 2019
6,605
3,818
106
Not all too sure these will work out as intended.

I predict the lawyers will make out better than anyone else.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
19,941
6,619
136

woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
14,731
10,793
136
The difference is, that one has no merit. CNN can afford the legal fees.

LOL@ this:

Legal counsel for the Flynn family, attorneys Steven S. Biss and Jeremy Zenilman, didn't return a Salon request for comment on Friday afternoon. Biss would seem to have a less than sterling track record when it comes to filing litigation against CNN. In February, he was handed a major loss in court after filing a $435 million lawsuit against the network on behalf of another Trump-allied client, Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif.
Too bad all the stuff the media is reporting about these assholes and nut jobs happens to be true. It isn't really tit for tat either. Nunes has been suing various people for years for saying truthful mean things about, like the fact he has regular relations with his cow.
 

Steltek

Platinum Member
Mar 29, 2001
2,921
655
136
Did Mikey really file a countersuit?
Yeah, he actually did. Alleging his free speech has been violated or some such nonsense.


The way he filed it does make it look like he is trying to trying to separate MyPillow from his own liability. Which is stupid and likely won't work, considering that MyPillow as a company is a wholly owned financial asset of Moron Mike.

I hope Dominion wins, takes his company away from him, and sells his worthless pillow patents to the Chinese. They can always use more cheap, worthless junk to make and sell on Amazon.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
14,731
10,793
136
This is related news.

So a producer at OAN goes on record with NYT saying that what they reported about the election was a bunch of crap and that almost everyone who worked there knew it. Was fired yesterday for that.

Also, NYT got reports from 16 employees of OAN which were anonymous, but saying the same thing. That what they report is false and everyone knows it.

It's a wonder that OAN and Newsmax have not been sued along with FoxNews.

 
  • Like
Reactions: hal2kilo
Feb 4, 2009
32,032
12,376
136
This is related news.

So a producer at OAN goes on record with NYT saying that what they reported about the election was a bunch of crap and that almost everyone who worked there knew it. Was fired yesterday for that.

Also, NYT got reports from 16 employees of OAN which were anonymous, but saying the same thing. That what they report is false and everyone knows it.

It's a wonder that OAN and Newsmax have not been sued along with FoxNews.

Fair enough even though it sucks. Most large employers would fire you if you gave an interview as an employee and slammed the business.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
14,731
10,793
136
Fair enough even though it sucks. Most large employers would fire you if you gave an interview as an employee and slammed the business.
Sure they would. It's just that in this case, the employee outed them for lying on the air, and so did 16 others who informed NYT anonymously. The issue isn't the firing per se; it's the lying. If you want to fire someone for truthfully reporting that your news outlet is a fraud, then so be it. It's your right.

But you're still a fraud.
 
Last edited:

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
68,789
4,679
126
It's a funny thing about self hate. People who have the worst cases quickly figure out they can make money in a capitalistic competitive society by stoking fear and insecurity via the production of lies based that feed the the needs for a sense of security those lies create. There is a tremendous need for conformation bias in a sick society and where the needs are sick some psychopath will fill them. One might wonder how one can protect the right to speak unpleasant truth from the right to make money on lies that destroy the nation. The only thing that can protect a country from lies is a majority that knows the truth and we now have a near 50 50 divide between two parties one of which makes it their prime objective to prevent people from being able to rationally think. Pre-Nazi Germany couldn't save itself either.
 

pauldun170

Diamond Member
Sep 26, 2011
8,875
4,579
136
If they're still in business and able to spew their filth, it wasn't enough.

The apology and whatever settlement was agreed to will have zero impact to their business.
The viewers are incapable of processing that sort of information that the provider of their nonsensical info is full of shit as proven in a court of law.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
19,941
6,619
136
The difference is, that one has no merit. CNN can afford the legal fees.

LOL@ this:



Too bad all the stuff the media is reporting about these assholes and nut jobs happens to be true. It isn't really tit for tat either. Nunes has been suing various people for years for saying truthful mean things about, like the fact he has regular relations with his cow.
He a crusader for destroying the free press in other words.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
14,731
10,793
136
Just read Fox News' motion to dismiss, and plaintiff's opposition brief, in the Smartmatic lawsuit.


What is especially interesting is not that Fox News relies on the 1A as a defense, but rather, that they are not arguing truth as a defense. Smartmatic painstakingly details over 200 false and defamatory statements made by Guiliani and Powell when on Fox News, as well as the Fox hosts' repeating those statements, paraphrasing them with approval, and adding their own false statements. Fox News adopted these false statements of fact, and now tacitly concedes that ALL the statements were false.

So are any of the people who watched Fox News last November and believed that these voting machines were hacked causing hundreds of thousands of votes in swing states to switch from Trump to Biden, now going to reconsider? I mean, given that the network who is now being sued for defamation over these statements is making no attempt to defend them as true. Of course not! Most of them are not even aware of this, and should any become aware, I'm sure they'll avail themselves of whatever mental gymnastics are required to persist in their batshittery.
 

Motostu

Senior member
Oct 5, 2020
294
264
96
Just read Fox News' motion to dismiss, and plaintiff's opposition brief, in the Smartmatic lawsuit.


What is especially interesting is not that Fox News relies on the 1A as a defense, but rather, that they are not arguing truth as a defense. Smartmatic painstakingly details over 200 false and defamatory statements made by Guiliani and Powell when on Fox News, as well as the Fox hosts' repeating those statements, paraphrasing them with approval, and adding their own false statements. Fox News adopted these false statements of fact, and now tacitly concedes that ALL the statements were false.

...
IMO any outcome of this needs to include an admission by Fox, on air, to propagating these false statements. Several times a day during their most watched shows, for a week.
 

pauldun170

Diamond Member
Sep 26, 2011
8,875
4,579
136
IMO any outcome of this needs to include an admission by Fox, on air, to propagating these false statements. Several times a day during their most watched shows, for a week.
Won't make a single bit of difference.
Fox drops admission at 5PM Friday.
Spend bulk of that Friday talking about sports, football and bring on a segment featuring some random author who posits the idea that BLM started the Californian fires followed by the 5 person circle jerk who is very concerned about the mental health issues being suffered by children who wear masks in school.
They will coordinate with RNC\GOP who will drop some misleading press releases about economic numbers, Iran and inflation to feed the weekend commentary\editorial fest.
Cap it off by talking about the next election cycle and maybe some yapping about the Chinese.

By Monday all the Foxtard viewers will respond to a question about Fox's admission with "What are you talking about?"
 
  • Like
Reactions: tweaker2

5to1baby1in5

Golden Member
Apr 27, 2001
1,222
93
91
IMO any outcome of this needs to include an admission by Fox, on air, to propagating these false statements. Several times a day during their most watched shows, for a week.
15 second spots every 15 minutes for the next year. It takes a lot of repeating to get through the thick skulls.
 
  • Like
Reactions: dank69 and cytg111

Stokely

Golden Member
Jun 5, 2017
1,142
1,160
136
As stated, it won't make a whit of difference.

If they lied, it's because they are trying to fight the good fight for America. It's like the gut-busting insanity I heard from all my ultra-religious relatives about Trump (who they HATED during the primaries): he's the imperfect vessel of God's will. He could have sex with a boy live on Fox and he'd still be the "imperfect vessel of God's will". Team ball fanaticism all the way down. A free agent athlete who a wife-beating tax fraud? Only an issue if he's on the rival team.

The one unforgivable sin for Fox or anyone is to endorse a Democrat, or something that Democrats are for. See how Liz Chaney is being hoisted as the next target practice dummy for having the gall to say what is blatantly obvious to anyone about Jan 6.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TheVrolok

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
75,898
30,469
136
As stated, it won't make a whit of difference.

If they lied, it's because they are trying to fight the good fight for America. It's like the gut-busting insanity I heard from all my ultra-religious relatives about Trump (who they HATED during the primaries): he's the imperfect vessel of God's will. He could have sex with a boy live on Fox and he'd still be the "imperfect vessel of God's will". Team ball fanaticism all the way down. A free agent athlete who a wife-beating tax fraud? Only an issue if he's on the rival team.

The one unforgivable sin for Fox or anyone is to endorse a Democrat, or something that Democrats are for. See how Liz Chaney is being hoisted as the next target practice dummy for having the gall to say what is blatantly obvious to anyone about Jan 6.
This is true. If Fox ran hourly ads admitting to lying about the election this would not convince its viewers that the election was fair, it would convince their viewers that Fox had become part of the conspiracy.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TheVrolok and Vic

ASK THE COMMUNITY