Voter ID laws are...

[TurtleCrusher]

Whew, there's at least shards of logic in this thread after the OP.

 

[sportage]

I don't get all this ID stuff.
I live in a state that has had no voter ID laws passed.
And yet ever since I started voting many years ago, fighting off Indians in my covered wagon to get to the polls, the poll lady always asked for name, address, and license or registration card to check against her list.
With all this voter ID talk and pushing new laws, you'd get the impression Joe Anybody could just stroll up and vote willy nilly, over and over.
Doesn't work that way. Never has.

FYI republican legislators.
Every polling place has a list or printout with every legally registered voter living in that precinct down on that list.
The way it works, one enters the building, then asked their name, some form of ID is viewed, the list is checked, and you are handed your ballot.
And that system has worked for generations. Just as is.

So remind me again why all this sudden freakout over voting?
It wouldn't have anything to do with intimidation, or skin color, or party affiliation, now would it?
What is so ironic is with this thinking that imposing stricter voter ID laws would only hurt minority democratic turnout.
I see a lot of senior republicans, more so republican, being turned off by these laws.
I mean... if republicans generally have better turn out than do democrats, then the democrats that will not turn out to vote probably wouldn't turn out in the first place.
Thus the number of registered republican voters disadvantaged would be far larger proportioned vs democrats disadvantaged.
Not every elderly, minority, or woman republican has a car, a picture ID, and a ride to their poll.
Republicans in state control are once again stereotyping.
They seem to be pretty good at that. To their own disadvantage.

 

[michal1980]

I don't get all this ID stuff.
I live in a state that has had no voter ID laws passed.
And yet ever since I started voting many years ago, fighting off Indians in my covered wagon to get to the polls, the poll lady always asked for name, address, and license or registration card to check against her list.
With all this voter ID talk and pushing new laws, you'd get the impression Joe Anybody could just stroll up and vote willy nilly, over and over.
Doesn't work that way. Never has.

FYI republican legislators.
Every polling place has a list or printout with every legally registered voter living in that precinct down on that list.
The way it works, one enters the building, then asked their name, some form of ID is viewed, the list is checked, and you are handed your ballot.
And that system has worked for generations. Just as is.

So remind me again why all this sudden freakout over voting?
It wouldn't have anything to do with intimidation, or skin color, or party affiliation, now would it?
What is so ironic is with this thinking that imposing stricter voter ID laws would only hurt minority democratic turnout.
I see a lot of senior republicans, more so republican, being turned off by these laws.
I mean... if republicans generally have better turn out than do democrats, then the democrats that will not turn out to vote probably wouldn't turn out in the first place.
Thus the number of registered republican voters disadvantaged would be far larger proportioned vs democrats disadvantaged.
Not every elderly, minority, or woman republican has a car, a picture ID, and a ride to their poll.
Republicans in state control are once again stereotyping.
They seem to be pretty good at that. To their own disadvantage.

so you have to show ID where you vote? but your complaining about other states having to show an ID?


Where I vote I could register without an ID, a utility bill counted for ID. Once registered, when you show up to vote you show nothing, just tell them a name.

 

[HomerJS]

Voter ID laws are not for fighting fraud but they are for...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuOT1bRYdK8

 

[Cozarkian]

FYI republican legislators.
Every polling place has a list or printout with every legally registered voter living in that precinct down on that list.
The way it works, one enters the building, then asked their name, some form of ID is viewed, the list is checked, and you are handed your ballot.
And that system has worked for generations. Just as is.

That's not how it works in California. In California, I walk into the polling place, they ask my name, they then open their book, and ask if I am still at <address>, I say "yes," I sign and get my ballot. No ID, and I don't need to know my address.

Voter fraud would be super simple. The books with names are kept open whenever there are voters in line, so you could watch as they flip through and quickly memorize a name without a signature next to it. Or you could just read one off the same page as you step up to the desk.

 

[Fenixgoon]

if the ID's were free, would they be considered a poll tax since there is no monetary cost to obtaining one? :hmm:

 

[ivwshane]

if the ID's were free, would they be considered a poll tax since there is no monetary cost to obtaining one? :hmm:

So long as the documents needed to obtain the ID are also free. That scenario has already been ruled kosher by the courts as well.
The problem is, most off these ID laws don't do that and they puck and choose what supporting documents can and can't be used.

 

[squirrel dog]

you need id to buy beer,why whine when voting. I have never seen anyone not have id when buying beer or cigs,if asked for it.

 

[D-Man]

No, I 'm saying I'm typing in an iPad.

Amazing I type ON my iPad. How the hell do you get inside

 

[shortylickens]

If you kicked out the 12 million illegals I probably wouldnt be so concerned about implementing a Voter ID program.

 

[ivwshane]

you need id to buy beer,why whine when voting. I have never seen anyone not have id when buying beer or cigs,if asked for it.

Brilliant!

/s

 

[nehalem256]

So long as the documents needed to obtain the ID are also free. That scenario has already been ruled kosher by the courts as well.
The problem is, most off these ID laws don't do that and they puck and choose what supporting documents can and can't be used.

Sorry but Mexican passports/DL don't count as valid supporting documentation

In other words you are reiterating what I said yesterday.

Then the issue is that the people lack the necessary documentation to get the free ID.

So basically the issues is the left thinks that people with absolutely no evidence of their existence as lawful US citizens should be allowed to vote.

One guess why

You think people completely unable to provide evidence of who they are should be allowed to vote.

 

[nehalem256]

If you kicked out the 12 million illegals I probably wouldnt be so concerned about implementing a Voter ID program.

If you kicked out the 12 million illegals leftists probably wouldn't be so concerned about implementing Voted ID programs.

 

[ivwshane]

Sorry but Mexican passports/DL don't count as valid supporting documentation

In other words you are reiterating what I said yesterday.



You think people completely unable to provide evidence of who they are should be allowed to vote.

No you fucking mentally retarded idiot! There are lots of reasons people don't have the necessary documentation, just because you aren't capable of thinking how that might happen doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Now go take your meds, your posts are becoming annoying and stupid again.

 

[nehalem256]

No you fucking mentally retarded idiot! There are lots of reasons people don't have the necessary documentation, just because you aren't capable of thinking how that might happen doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

What? I just provided how it was possible.

Mexican/El Salvadoran/Guatemalan passports/DL are not valid supporting documentation.

Essentially you admitted that you think that people who are completely incapable of proving they are allowed to vote should be allowed to vote.

 

[Victorian Gray]

No you fucking mentally retarded idiot! There are lots of reasons people don't have the necessary documentation, just because you aren't capable of thinking how that might happen doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Now go take your meds, your posts are becoming annoying and stupid again.

Becoming?

 

[IGBT]

don't forget to bring your picture ID at your next union election..they won't even let you in the door with no picture ID.

 

[BoberFett]

Whew, there's at least shards of logic in this thread after the OP.

Too bad there was no logic IN the OP.

 

[spacejamz]

you need id to buy beer,why whine when voting. I have never seen anyone not have id when buying beer or cigs,if asked for it.

Obviously these people don't have medical insurance either (they must be independently wealthy or they just don't pay) since you need an ID when applying for coverage and need to show ID at the doctor's office to get treatment...

If you just show up at the ER to get treatment for anything, do you have to show ID to the admitting staff before they see you??

 

[cuafpr]

Obviously these people don't have medical insurance either (they must be independently wealthy or they just don't pay) since you need an ID when applying for coverage and need to show ID at the doctor's office to get treatment...

If you just show up at the ER to get treatment for anything, do you have to show ID to the admitting staff before they see you??

last time i was at the ER i had to show ID before i could be discharged...

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Obviously these people don't have medical insurance either (they must be independently wealthy or they just don't pay) since you need an ID when applying for coverage and need to show ID at the doctor's office to get treatment...

If you just show up at the ER to get treatment for anything, do you have to show ID to the admitting staff before they see you??

Amazing isn't it? It's almost like they intentionally ensured that Medicare and the like did not have excessively restrictive means of confirming ones eligibility to prevent eligible people from being denied access.

 

[BoberFett]

Amazing isn't it? It's almost like they intentionally ensured that Medicare and the like did not have excessively restrictive means of confirming ones eligibility to prevent eligible people from being denied access.

I should skip paying for insurance and just go to the ER. When they ask for ID, I'll just tell them I don't have any. I'll tell them my name is Santiago Rodriguez. When they don't believe me I'll just scream racism because I have a Hispanic name.

 

[Moonbeam]

The conservative brain is full of fear and fear breeds all kinds of ugly emotions like contempt for the other, the fear the other wii take what you have, your ability to control your social and economic standing at the polls. Having a fearful brain makes people small minded and nasty, but the egotism that protect the self from such self awareness causes projection of that onto others. Thus the little shits that posess the conservative brain defect see others as the shits that they are, and thus fear the other will vote only for their own interests, leaving conservative yards to fend for themselves as they care not for the other.. It is this disgusting inner condition that causes conservatives to fear the liberal and to project on liberals all their racial fears. This is how the conservative brain defect works. Do not imagine you can change it with logic. You can't reason with fear. Fear and reason are not compatible. Only the mind that has died to the ego can reason objectively.

 

[Moonbeam]

I should skip paying for insurance and just go to the ER. When they ask for ID, I'll just tell them I don't have any. I'll tell them my name is Santiago Rodriguez. When they don't believe me I'll just scream racism because I have a Hispanic name.

You are more likely to do this than the real Santiago is to vote illegally. But the notion that others might rationally judge the consequences and prospects for success as effectively as you do never enters your head because you are blinded by your nastiness, of which you are very proud.

 

[BoberFett]

You talk so much of brain defects, have you tried looking in a mirror?

Moonie, you're the same old tired joke. You used to be capable of interesting conversation, but your brain collapsed in on itself at some point and all you can do is paint the room with your own shit. No matter how much you try to convince yourself it's paint, everyone else can smell what you're covered in.