Voted for Dr. Paul even though it probably won't count.

[Anarchist420]

As romney was expected to get 69% of the vote in VA and VA is a winner who gets the majority of the popular vote takes all delegates, it probably won't count

Anyway, I did it because it's what I believe in even though I knew it was going to make little difference. One point of interest is that the turnout looked like it was going to be super low. That means that no one really likes Romney. The bad thing is that VA *may* be so fascist that it dislikes Dr. Paul.

If you live in VA, and haven't vote today... do me and favor and vote for Dr. Paul.

Now my questions... what would Thomas Jefferson, John Taylor of Caroline, John Randolph of Roanoake, the other Old Republicans, Harry F. Byrd, and the rest of the Byrd Organization think of their country (i.e., VA) when the Hamiltonian candidate might get more than 2/3 of the vote? Would Jefferson's views on democracy have changed? Would Hamilton's views on democracy have changed? WTF went wrong?

 

[disappoint]

As romney was expected to get 69% of the vote in VA and VA is a winner who gets the majority of the popular vote takes all delegates, it probably won't count

Anyway, I did it because it's what I believe in even though I knew it was going to make little difference. One point of interest is that the turnout looked like it was going to be super low. That means that no one really likes Romney. The bad thing is that VA *may* be so fascist that it dislikes Dr. Paul.

If you live in VA, and haven't vote today... do me and favor and vote for Dr. Paul.

Now my questions... what would Thomas Jefferson, John Taylor of Caroline, John Randolph of Roanoake, the other Old Republicans, Harry F. Byrd, and the rest of the Byrd Organization think of their country (i.e., VA) when the Hamiltonian candidate might get more than 2/3 of the vote? Would Jefferson's views on democracy have changed? Would Hamilton's views on democracy have changed? WTF went wrong?

Corruption. Plain and simple. I've said it before and I'll say it again. First the country goes morally bankrupt, then financially bankrupt.

I used to work with Russians. I asked them point blank: Why did Russia go financially broke? They said "Corruption. People were getting paid a lot of money to do nothing."

 

[Capt Caveman]

All you did is vote? You didn't help his campaign or even hold a Ron Paul banner at the voting location? If you didn't then stop posting about him.

 

[Linflas]

As romney was expected to get 69% of the vote in VA and VA is a winner who gets the majority of the popular vote takes all delegates, it probably won't count

Anyway, I did it because it's what I believe in even though I knew it was going to make little difference. One point of interest is that the turnout looked like it was going to be super low. That means that no one really likes Romney. The bad thing is that VA *may* be so fascist that it dislikes Dr. Paul.

If you live in VA, and haven't vote today... do me and favor and vote for Dr. Paul.

Now my questions... what would Thomas Jefferson, John Taylor of Caroline, John Randolph of Roanoake, the other Old Republicans, Harry F. Byrd, and the rest of the Byrd Organization think of their country (i.e., VA) when the Hamiltonian candidate might get more than 2/3 of the vote? Would Jefferson's views on democracy have changed? Would Hamilton's views on democracy have changed? WTF went wrong?

1. I hate the whole primary process and can't be bothered to waste my time with it, it has nothing to do with my like or dislike of Romney or Paul.

2. Given that only 2 of the 4 remaining candidates were actually competent enough to get themselves on the ballot means that those supporting Santorum or Gingrich are not likely to waste their time with the primary. Once again nothing to do with disliking Romney.

3. There is no reason to believe that the small numbers that will go vote are likely to be much different than the polling shows the state likely to go so once again nothing to do with dislike of Romney.

As for what the whole corrupt Byrd machine (Democrats by the way, not Republicans) that used to dominate Virginia politics and brought us such admirable policies as "Massive Resistance" would think I really don't concern myself with. Jeffersonian Democrats have a lot more to be disgusted with than the mush we have made of the Presidential election process.

 

[fskimospy]

As romney was expected to get 69% of the vote in VA and VA is a winner who gets the majority of the popular vote takes all delegates, it probably won't count

Anyway, I did it because it's what I believe in even though I knew it was going to make little difference. One point of interest is that the turnout looked like it was going to be super low. That means that no one really likes Romney. The bad thing is that VA *may* be so fascist that it dislikes Dr. Paul.

If you live in VA, and haven't vote today... do me and favor and vote for Dr. Paul.

Now my questions... what would Thomas Jefferson, John Taylor of Caroline, John Randolph of Roanoake, the other Old Republicans, Harry F. Byrd, and the rest of the Byrd Organization think of their country (i.e., VA) when the Hamiltonian candidate might get more than 2/3 of the vote? Would Jefferson's views on democracy have changed? Would Hamilton's views on democracy have changed? WTF went wrong?

Or maybe he would be like 'perhaps the best method of governance changes over the course of more than two centuries'.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Not only did you waste your vote, but you wasted it on an idiot at that. Good job!

 

[Thump553]

1. I hate the whole primary process and can't be bothered to waste my time with it, it has nothing to do with my like or dislike of Romney or Paul.

2. Given that only 2 of the 4 remaining candidates were actually competent enough to get themselves on the ballot means that those supporting Santorum or Gingrich are not likely to waste their time with the primary. Once again nothing to do with disliking Romney.

3. There is no reason to believe that the small numbers that will go vote are likely to be much different than the polling shows the state likely to go so once again nothing to do with dislike of Romney.

As for what the whole corrupt Byrd machine (Democrats by the way, not Republicans) that used to dominate Virginia politics and brought us such admirable policies as "Massive Resistance" would think I really don't concern myself with. Jeffersonian Democrats have a lot more to be disgusted with than the mush we have made of the Presidential election process.

You should ask yourself why in the world anyone would care what you think when you intentionally neuter yourself of any poltical power you have-power that takes about as much effort for you to exercise as stopping at the 7-11 for a coffee (minus the expense).

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I called my Mom, my brother/his wife, my sister/her husband and my 2 nieces/1 nephew to let them know to vote for Romney. You're one vote has been cancelled and 7 more votes went to Romney.

BTW They live in Virginia.

Have a nice day.

 

[Capt Caveman]

I called my Mom, my brother/his wife, my sister/her husband and my 2 nieces/1 nephew to let them know to vote for Romney. You're one vote has been cancelled and 7 more votes went to Romney.

BTW They live in Virginia.

Have a nice day.

Sadly, you did more to help a candidate than the OP has for his beloved Ron Paul.

 

[Anarchist420]

All you did is vote? You didn't help his campaign or even hold a Ron Paul banner at the voting location? If you didn't then stop posting about him.

I've given $175 to the campaign. I could've spent it on other things, but I chose not to.

 

[Linflas]

You should ask yourself why in the world anyone would care what you think when you intentionally neuter yourself of any poltical power you have-power that takes about as much effort for you to exercise as stopping at the 7-11 for a coffee (minus the expense).

You know if this was the real show you would have a point but this is nothing more than political party games and I am not interested in playing in them. I have voted in every real election since I was old enough to vote but the whole primary process is a game dominated by people that have no life outside party politics and I am not one of them.

 

[momeNt]

Or maybe he would be like 'perhaps the best method of governance changes over the course of more than two centuries'.

You realize that John Locke's ideas were around 100 years old by the time Jefferson was influencing politics in America right? Perhaps good ideas never get outdated.

 

[Capt Caveman]

I've given $175 to the campaign. I could've spent it on other things, but I chose not to.

Based on how much Ron Paul gives you a woodie, you would think you would actually put more effort to support your savior.

 

[fskimospy]

You realize that John Locke's ideas were around 100 years old by the time Jefferson was influencing politics in America right? Perhaps good ideas never get outdated.

Yes, I'm well aware. And perhaps good ideas get outdated all the time.

 

[ky54]

If I could vote in NY (I'm registered non-affiliated) I'd probably vote of Paul too. It doesn't matter, though, because in NY the Dems just march in goose-stepping, lockstep and pull the levers with a "D" on them. The odds of Obama not taking NY are the same as me hitting the lottery and I don't play it.

 

[Linflas]

Yes, I'm well aware. And perhaps good ideas get outdated all the time.

So is the concept that human beings have inherent rights at birth a "good idea that is outdated" or is it a truth that transcends time?

 

[fskimospy]

So is the concept that human beings have inherent rights at birth a "good idea that is outdated" or is it a truth that transcends time?

That is not the idea under discussion in any way, shape, or form. Nice try though.

 

[momeNt]

That is not the idea under discussion in any way, shape, or form. Nice try though.

A Lockean idea that would definitely fall under one of your categories is that government is formed to better protect life, liberty, and property, and specifically NOT formed for virtuous goals only realized through community - ie. social services.

It took the USA around 150 years to abandon that idea, haven't looked back since.

 

[fskimospy]

A Lockean idea that would definitely fall under one of your categories is that government is formed to better protect life, liberty, and property, and specifically NOT formed for virtuous goals only realized through community - ie. social services.

It took the USA around 150 years to abandon that idea, haven't looked back since.

Can you provide me evidence that Jefferson promoted a government that specifically eschewed any virtuous goals?

 

[soundforbjt]

I'll give the OP credit though. He did vote his choice and it was someone he truly believes in. Rare that we all get to do that in today's elections.

 

[Craig234]

This whole 'good idea being outdadted or being not outdated' is nonsense.

Ideas are more powerful and there are plenty of political quotes about their 'being more powerful than armies' and such. And there's some truth to that - democracy in particular is one that is powerful enough that it restricts tyrants' ability to get citizens to accept the tyranny and forces the powerful to concende some power when people hear it.

But it's not inherently a 'good idea' in some way making it immune to human error.

An idea is 'good' to the extent that people agree it is - much as a currency has value as long as people agree it does.

If a wave of 'democracy is a bad idea' ideology swept the world tomorrow for watever reason, democracy would be replaced, good or not.

It's a little like the paradox of the constitution declaring rights endowed by their creator - that's ok as a theory, but the fact was, it was men writing them down and men agreeing to follow the document that actually led to people having those rights recognizaed and respected by the powers that might have violated them. It's an OPINION that they're 'endowed by a creator'. But people love the 'inalienable' idea. It sounds so 'above politics' even though politics ultimately is the basis of the protection.

An idea that is widely agreed with is a 'good idea that is not outdated' while an agree not agreed with is 'not a good idea so it's outdated' and one that was popular then was not and then is again is a 'good idea that people thought was outdated but they were wrong'.

The idea that Aryans were a more evolved, advanced, superior people advancing the human race by conquering the world in WWII is a bad idea that's outdated, except that if they had conquered the world and killed everyone else it would probably be considered a pretty good idea now. Same with Japan's superiority theory and their 5000 year old Emperor, who because they lost is now not viewed the same. But we won and now get to hear the Republicans beat their chests about 'American exceptionalism'.

Read Walter Lippmann's "Public Opinion" and see if you think otherwise about how public opinion determines which ideas to agree with.

 

[Nemesis 1]

I've given $175 to the campaign. I could've spent it on other things, but I chose not to.

Don't reply to such attacks . He knows nothing . Proof is in the fact , That one of the worse presidents of all time he approves of . He always posting so he likely not working . Of course he goes with the handout party , Not the Rep. are any better . But Paul is by far the most honest president runnner in 100 years

 

[JEDIYoda]

Not only did you waste your vote, but you wasted it on an idiot at that. Good job!

c`mon did you expect anything else....

 

[JEDIYoda]

But Paul is by far the most honest president runnner in 100 years

honesty does not equate to common sense.....

 

[JEDIYoda]

I'll give the OP credit though. He did vote his choice and it was someone he truly believes in. Rare that we all get to do that in today's elections.

or you can look at this another way.......nah we wont go there...lol