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Uppsala9496

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Originally posted by: MrChad
Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
Originally posted by: virtueixi
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: virtueixi
Your votes don't matter! The electoral college system is set up so that the representatives can go with OR against the popular vote. Meaning that popular vote doen't even matter. Also, your vote will be counted whether you vote or not since the electoral votes are based on the state's population NOT registered voters. For most states (like NY) it is already obvious who will take the majority popular vote and all the electoral votes. Therefore, voting is futile. Flamesuit stat!
Your tinfoil-hat ranting aside, you are also voting for local and state reps tomorrow, not to mention nifty things like DAs and judges. Your vote absolutely matters even if you live in a state where the electoral votes are probably a foregone conclusion (as I do).

Wait a minute... it's only definite because because DO show up to vote. If everyone thinks it's a done deal and no one votes... gee, I wonder.

If noone showed up to vote the electoral reps would still pick a candiate. I do agree about the local elections. I just hate the electoral system.:disgust:
The electoral system was put in place because the elitists of the time didn't trust the masses to be educated enough to make such an important decision. Judging by some of the responses to this thread, I tend to agree with them.
And yes, I will be voting tomorrow.

Actually, the electoral system keeps presidential candidates from focusing all of their attention on heavily populated urban areas and ignoring more sparsely populated states in the midwest. It's not perfect by any means, but it's a good way to ensure that everyone's issues are heard, regardless of where they live.

Actually, you are wrong. The electoral college was established by the founding fathers as a compromise between election of the president by Congress and election by popular vote.
The argument was that the population was not educated enough to be able to vote.
 

Uppsala9496

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Nov 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: virtueixi
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: virtueixi
Your votes don't matter! The electoral college system is set up so that the representatives can go with OR against the popular vote. Meaning that popular vote doen't even matter. Also, your vote will be counted whether you vote or not since the electoral votes are based on the state's population NOT registered voters. For most states (like NY) it is already obvious who will take the majority popular vote and all the electoral votes. Therefore, voting is futile. Flamesuit stat!
Your tinfoil-hat ranting aside, you are also voting for local and state reps tomorrow, not to mention nifty things like DAs and judges. Your vote absolutely matters even if you live in a state where the electoral votes are probably a foregone conclusion (as I do).

Wait a minute... it's only definite because because DO show up to vote. If everyone thinks it's a done deal and no one votes... gee, I wonder.

If noone showed up to vote the electoral reps would still pick a candiate. I do agree about the local elections. I just hate the electoral system.:disgust:

Do you know how many times the electoral college voted against the will of the people of their state? Do you know how many times a member of the college voted against the will of their state? Do you think that's enough to not vote?

Here are the election results and electoral college votes dating back to 1789.
 

MrChad

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Aug 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
Actually, you are wrong. The electoral college was established by the founding fathers as a compromise between election of the president by Congress and election by popular vote.
The argument was that the population was not educated enough to be able to vote.

I presented my argument poorly, but I'm not disagreeing with you. :p Regardless of what it was originally intended for, it is still justified today with the explanation I provided.

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Pliablemoose

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Oct 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: virtueixi
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: virtueixi
Your votes don't matter! The electoral college system is set up so that the representatives can go with OR against the popular vote. Meaning that popular vote doen't even matter. Also, your vote will be counted whether you vote or not since the electoral votes are based on the state's population NOT registered voters. For most states (like NY) it is already obvious who will take the majority popular vote and all the electoral votes. Therefore, voting is futile. Flamesuit stat!
Your tinfoil-hat ranting aside, you are also voting for local and state reps tomorrow, not to mention nifty things like DAs and judges. Your vote absolutely matters even if you live in a state where the electoral votes are probably a foregone conclusion (as I do).

Wait a minute... it's only definite because because DO show up to vote. If everyone thinks it's a done deal and no one votes... gee, I wonder.

If noone showed up to vote the electoral reps would still pick a candiate. I do agree about the local elections. I just hate the electoral system.:disgust:

Do you know how many times the electoral college voted against the will of the people of their state? Do you know how many times a member of the college voted against the will of their state? Do you think that's enough to not vote?

Here are the election results and electoral college votes dating back to 1789.


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43st

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Nov 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: xEDIT409
My voters registration card has not arrived in the mail yet. I registered at the end of August. I don't think I will be able to vote in this important election. I am sad. Hold me.

Just take your photo ID and a recent bill with your address on it. If they say no then ask for a provisional ballot.

Read the main entry here for more information... electoral-vote.com
 

xEDIT409

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May 17, 2003
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Originally posted by: Thera
Originally posted by: xEDIT409
My voters registration card has not arrived in the mail yet. I registered at the end of August. I don't think I will be able to vote in this important election. I am sad. Hold me.

Just take your photo ID and a recent bill with your address on it. If they say no then ask for a provisional ballot.

Read the main entry here for more information... electoral-vote.com

I'm just a college freshmen, I got no bills.