Vote Clinton and face Nuclear Armageddon!

DaveSimmons

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Sure, having power armor, laser weapons and an immortal dog that can carry 200 lbs of gear SOUNDS fun, but that's only for those of us with a Vault-Tec reservation.

The rest of you will die either immediately in the atom blasts and radiation storms, or slowly as the cannibalistic raiders gnaw on your bones.

You heard it straight from the Truth of Trump: Vote Hilary and DIE SCREAMING.

"You're going to end up in World War Three over Syria if we listen to Hillary Clinton"

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...-lead-to-world-war-three/ar-AAjogxe?ocid=iehp

Come with Trump if you want to live!
 
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"If we had party unity, we couldn't lose this election to Hillary Clinton," he said.

gee donny, I wonder who's to blame for that.
Hmmmm....
 

Jaskalas

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Come with Trump if you want to live!

It's perfectly true that Clinton stands for going weapons hot on Syrians and Russians.
All so we can install terrorists to replace a military dictatorship. Because regime change has worked so well for us recently.

Clinton believed in Iraq, believed in Libya, and believes in Syria. Do you?
 

DaveSimmons

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It's perfectly true that Clinton stands for going weapons hot on Syrians and Russians.
All so we can install terrorists to replace a military dictatorship. Because regime change has worked so well for us recently.

Clinton believed in Iraq, believed in Libya, and believes in Syria. Do you?

Whereas Trump has asked why we haven't been using our nukes, and promised to bomb the families of terrorists. Of the two of them I can see which one is likely to fly off the handle and press the shiny, candy-like History Eraser button.

Me? If you can dig up my P&N posts from 2003 I argued against the invasion of Iraq.
 
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DrDoug

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Vote for Orange Glo or we will all glow orange? Well... as long as it's everybody then let's get our own orange glow on. :)
 

feralkid

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I use it weekly...so far no armageddon.​
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Jhhnn

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It's perfectly true that Clinton stands for going weapons hot on Syrians and Russians.
All so we can install terrorists to replace a military dictatorship. Because regime change has worked so well for us recently.

Clinton believed in Iraq, believed in Libya, and believes in Syria. Do you?


That's a blatant mischaracterization of her position on the war in Iraq. Are you even capable of discussing this issue honestly?

The whole post is blatant mischaracterization & desperate poo flinging.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Because no one has accused Trump of wanting to start nuclear war. ;)

(No, second/third-hand unverified comments like "Why can't we use nukes?" don't count.)
 

Jhhnn

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brycejones

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It's perfectly true that Clinton stands for going weapons hot on Syrians and Russians.
All so we can install terrorists to replace a military dictatorship. Because regime change has worked so well for us recently.

Clinton believed in Iraq, believed in Libya, and believes in Syria. Do you?

That sad moment when you realize you are a pathetic authoritarian who does not wish for nor wants his fellow man to fight for their freedom. In many ways we've made our bed by supporting dictatorships instead of really living up to our ideals.
 

HamburgerBoy

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You need to admit he's said some truly foolish & reckless things about nuclear weapons-

https://thinkprogress.org/9-terrify...about-nuclear-weapons-99f6290bc32a#.76h21mgi7

Imagine what electing this pompous fool as President would do for our image & relationship with the ROTW.

I don't see what's so bad about letting South Korea and/or Japan have nukes tbh. Right now the only Asian nuclear powers are a rival (China), a pest (Russia), and an enemy (North Korea). And Bill Clinton "let" NK have them.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Trump's wording is nihilistic and not great to hear, but can you say he's wrong? The fact of the matter is that we "let" both Pakistan and North Korea have nukes. You can't pretend that nations won't want to adopt nuclear arsenals when their next-door neighbors have them. The only other solution is a movement towards total disarmament, which no one is proposing.
 

DrDoug

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I don't see what's so bad about letting South Korea and/or Japan have nukes tbh. Right now the only Asian nuclear powers are a rival (China), a pest (Russia), and an enemy (North Korea). And Bill Clinton "let" NK have them.

When you say stupid shit like this I have to wonder if you are really ever serious. Of course, that's giving you the benefit of the doubt that you really aren't stupid.

I could be wrong, I will admit that.
 

HamburgerBoy

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When you say stupid shit like this I have to wonder if you are really ever serious. Of course, that's giving you the benefit of the doubt that you really aren't stupid.

I could be wrong, I will admit that.

If you're referring to me excluding India and Pakistan in that list, it's because by Asian I meant specifically nations in that specific sphere of influence, and ethnically "Asian"/Mongoloid. I mean, I guess India and Pakistan could easily get involved if they wanted to, but they are kind of their own pocket of nuclear tension, and have no reason to support Japan or South Korea.

Otherwise, if South Korea decided they wanted to undergo a nuclear weapons research project of their own accord, would you support military action to stop them?
 

Jhhnn

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Trump's wording is nihilistic and not great to hear, but can you say he's wrong? The fact of the matter is that we "let" both Pakistan and North Korea have nukes. You can't pretend that nations won't want to adopt nuclear arsenals when their next-door neighbors have them. The only other solution is a movement towards total disarmament, which no one is proposing.

Did we let India & China have nukes, too? If there's anybody we "let" have nuclear weapons it was Israel.

Do we want to send a message to our allies that they need their own nukes when we're committed to using ours on their behalf should it come to that?

The truth is that we've only really dissuaded one country with nuclear weapons ambitions from building nukes & that's Iran. Donald & the Repubs say they'd queer that deal if they could. Go figure, huh?
 

Jhhnn

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If you're referring to me excluding India and Pakistan in that list, it's because by Asian I meant specifically nations in that specific sphere of influence, and ethnically "Asian"/Mongoloid. I mean, I guess India and Pakistan could easily get involved if they wanted to, but they are kind of their own pocket of nuclear tension, and have no reason to support Japan or South Korea.

Otherwise, if South Korea decided they wanted to undergo a nuclear weapons research project of their own accord, would you support military action to stop them?

Why would they if they had confidence in our alliance?
 

HamburgerBoy

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Did we let India & China have nukes, too? If there's anybody we "let" have nuclear weapons it was Israel.

Do we want to send a message to our allies that they need their own nukes when we're committed to using ours on their behalf should it come to that?

The truth is that we've only really dissuaded one country with nuclear weapons ambitions from building nukes & that's Iran. Donald & the Repubs say they'd queer that deal if they could. Go figure, huh?

Israel stole our nuclear technology, but they're both a strategic and religious ally so we gave them a pass (as we routinely do when they push us).

The specific question addressed to Trump in the link you posted was "let", synonymous with "allow". E.g. give them permission. Right now Japan has restrictions on what they're allowed to do with their military.
 

lopri

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In all seriousness, I do not think Trump is anymore likely to start a nuclear war than Clinton is. The chain of command will prevent Trump from initiating a nuclear attack from rash tantrum. What is more likely to happen is more nations will try to arm themselves with nuclear weapons during his presidency and that will over time get us closer to nuclear confrontations in the long run.
 

Jhhnn

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Israel stole our nuclear technology, but they're both a strategic and religious ally so we gave them a pass (as we routinely do when they push us).

The specific question addressed to Trump in the link you posted was "let", synonymous with "allow". E.g. give them permission. Right now Japan has restrictions on what they're allowed to do with their military.

And now the dodging. Nuclear proliferation is not in our interests or in the interests of stability & peace. We'd be fools not to stand against it when practicable to do so. That's beyond obvious.

And then there's Donald, the shit talking fool.