Voodoo3 on my beefy machine

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Jza

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I just built my new computer recently containing:
AthlonXP 1700+, EPoX 8KHA+, 512MB PC2100 DDR

I have made an order to purchase a GeForce4 Ti4400 when the shipment arrives, but until then I am using an old, dusty Voodoo3 2000 PCI card. With this card being the obvious bottleneck, am i supposed to still receive only a max of ~35fps in counter-strike?
 
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hellz no! on my old cel30a rig with 128mb pc100 and same v3... i was getting 60fps. what drivers r u using? what os u running? i was running 98 w/ the wickedgl drivers. wickedgl rules :)
 
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No way, I was pushing over 60fps too back when I had my p3 800 and Voodoo3 2k in CS. Did you change the cl_maxfps setting in your config.ini?
 
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Did you change the cl_maxfps setting in your config.ini?

isn't it set to like 60 or 70 by default tho?
btw, did u install the via 4in1's?
 
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Uhm, hehe...i just took out the HD from the old PC (450MHz PII/ 256MB PC100 SDRAM) and placed it in the new rig until i receive my new clean HD.

So i'm assuming there were a lot of conflicts in updating stuff when just sticking the HD into a new rig. Win98SE is on the HD and i haven't formatted after placing into new system.

What do I need to try to get most juice outta my vooodo3 2000 PCI? I got via4-1 on disk and where can i get latest voodoo3 drivers?

thx for helping :D
 
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jfunk

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Download the newest 4-in-1's from via. Get video drivers from voodoofiles.com.

Make sure your via's are installed in turbo mode so you are getting AGP4X. (or 2X, not even sure what V3 supports) and not 1X AGP.


That being said, format that puppy and clean install as soon as you have the time. At the very least you could try going into your registry and cleaning out all your hardware settings. If you just popped that sucker in without doing so half your mobo probably isn't even detected properly.


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Make sure your via's are installed in turbo mode so you are getting AGP4X. (or 2X, not even sure what V3 supports) and not 1X AGP.

the v3 2000 is a pci card dude :)
 
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dont forget to disable vsync.. that will help with fps.

edit: my older systems which are a p2-400/tnt2 m64, celeron500/voodoo3 1000 do over 35fps easily..
 
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<< the v3 2000 is a pci card dude :) >>


LOL, yup :D

Ok, i haven't installed newest 4-1 drivers yet...but will soon. I downloaded some third party drivers from voodoofiles.com and it enabled overclocking. I decided, what the hell...let's OC this beotch!

i'm lucky i didn't fry it...my first OCing experience. Results were awesome, my framerate improved dramatically. I OCed the RAM from 145MHz to 155MHz...running fine and stable

Shall i go more? hehe
 
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The Voodoo3 cards run synchronously, meaning the core and memory run at the same speed unlike ATI and nVidia cards. It should overclock alot more than that, alot of people ran their Voodoo3 2000s at 3000 speeds (166mhz vs 143mhz). I think I ran mine at 170mhz.
 
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<< I just built my new computer recently containing:
AthlonXP 1700+, EPoX 8KHA+, 512MB PC2100 DDR

I have made an order to purchase a GeForce4 Ti4400 when the shipment arrives, but until then I am using an old, dusty Voodoo3 2000 PCI card. With this card being the obvious bottleneck, am i supposed to still receive only a max of ~35fps in counter-strike? >>



Hmm... are you sure that video card will fit on that 8KHA+ mobo?? Cuz I know of some Ti4600's that won't.
 
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<< Make sure your via's are installed in turbo mode so you are getting AGP4X. (or 2X, not even sure what V3 supports) and not 1X AGP.

the v3 2000 is a pci card dude :) >>



Doh! Read too fast and didn't notice that whole "PCI" part. :eek:



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<< The Voodoo3 cards run synchronously, meaning the core and memory run at the same speed unlike ATI and nVidia cards. It should overclock alot more than that, alot of people ran their Voodoo3 2000s at 3000 speeds (166mhz vs 143mhz). I think I ran mine at 170mhz. >>



is that how high u can get without extra cooling? cause voodo cards run hot. if u can then when u get my new system i'll take this one and overclock the crap out of it
 
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Jza

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ludacris66, I have been hearing bad news about the GF4 Ti4600 combined w/ an 8KHA+ mobo. But hopefully a Ti4400 should work...hopefully :frown:
 
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<< is that how high u can get without extra cooling? cause voodo cards run hot. >>


I krazy glued a cheapy 486 fan to the stock heatsink of my Voodoo3 2k. It probably wasn't even necessary, I vaguely remember hitting at least 160mhz even w/o the fan. Plus the fan didn't push that much air anyway, so I think 160mhz is definitely doable w/ just the stock heatsink. Never had a problem for over a year running it w/ that setup, I still have the card stashed away in a box waiting to be used in an extra machine.
 
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Those V3 boards seem to be able to take a lot of heat. For a short while 3Dfx was selling Voodoo3 1000 boards (123mhz) that didn't have any sort of cooling at all, passive or otherwise. The chip got nice and toasty, but ran stable in every machine I put one in...
 
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you guys are lucky. my v3 wouldn't really o/c that well at all. even at 155mhz, CS would freeze after like 5 minutes. so i mounted a socket7 fan on top of the v2 hs... it runs ok now. i don't really want to deal with the hassle of pushing it further, becuz i think it already handles CS pretty well and 155mhz. also didn't wanna be bothered with the chance of hanging a hanging system :p
 
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is it worth the risk for more fps? whats a good way to go about it? increase by 5mhz, test stability/temp etc?
 
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<< is it worth the risk for more fps? whats a good way to go about it? increase by 5mhz, test stability/temp etc? >>



i didn't think it was worth the risk, partly becuz i am too lazy to go on further testing and tweaking :p but if u have time and are interested in tweaking it... more power to ya. socket7 hsf's should mount onto the v3 hs with a little effort.
 
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Athlex

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I have a V3-3000 AGP in one of my machines (166mhz stock). It has a larger heatsink than the V3-2K so I strapped a 60mm fan onto it with a zip tie and I have it stable at 183mhz (same speed as the V3-3500).
I found that when I take the chip to far, their are strange colors and other graphics weirdnesses before the card itself locks up, so as long as you don't overclock too much too soon, you shouldn't have too much trouble with stability.
The V3-3000 heatsink is directly attached to the chip right? On my 3000, it's attached with a piece of thermal tape and then has brass rivets which go through the board. I replaced the tape with some arctic silver as well, so that may help if your overclocking efforts.
/Atx
 
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chek you MB revision ( bottom-left looks like Rev 2.0)
If you have 1.3 then you in big troble :( neither GF Ti4600, or exclusive tuning won't help you :(


for more information see

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_182_869_1039^4046|106_1,00.html


 
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