hey jethro bodine...the video card isnt all about frame rate...my FPS doubled when i got a better processor, and i have one of the lucky pro2-a's that hits a 114MHz bus. im running a 1gig duron at 1.65 (1.69 really), and it works perfect. so i get at least 140+ FPS in q3a, and eat it if you dont believe me.