Voodoo 3 2000.

Zero Plasma

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The computer won't show anything on screen.

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I think all AGP cards need to have a power cable running to them, right?

Well as you can see in the picture the card has a 26 pin connector.

Does that need to be connected somewhere, with what cable.

This is an old computer that I'm going to use a media server or something simple.

Thanks.
 

rbV5

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Most AGP cards do not require additional power connections, only a few high performance cards (not the V3 2000)

The connector is a video input for certain TV tuners, and perhaps some other video equipment.

It could be a number of reasons that it shows nothing, some specifications of the PC you are trying to put it in and the OS you are running may help.
 

secretanchitman

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whoa! i remember that card...i had it since the very first day it came out, until i finally got upgraded to a geforce2MX 2-3 years ago. then FINALLY a geforce3 this year.

i dont think any agp card needs power, unless its a geforce FX 5700 or something. no 9xxx series from ATI dont require it either i dont think.
 

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Wrong. All R300/350/360 cards needed an external molex. In fact, ever since the R300, every nvidia/ATI flagship AGP card has needed at least 1 external molex power supply connector.

If the display doesn't show anything, check all your connections(AGP, memory, even your CPU), try the card in another computer with a compatible AGP slot, and/or try another AGP card with a compatible AGP connector.
 

Zero Plasma

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The specs are a P 2 (I think), 128 mb of ram, and some mobo.

It was working a couple years ago. The HDD was taken out, so i'm just trying to get it to post.(It sould post right?)

I'll try the card in another PC later.

Thanks.
 

rbV5

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It should POST without a hardrive. You are sure the monitor works? You can hear the CPU fan spin up? Any beeps?
 

Zero Plasma

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I have the MSI K8N Neo2, and it has a 4x/8x AGP slot.

That slots not compatible with 2x, is it?

I looked and the layout of the small and large connectors are reversed.
 

Zero Plasma

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Originally posted by: rbV5
It should POST without a hardrive. You are sure the monitor works? You can hear the CPU fan spin up? Any beeps?


The monitor works, but I use DVI, so I tried it on another monitor and the same thing happens.

Yes the CPU fan runs.

No beeps and it has a speaker.
 

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Originally posted by: secretanchitman
whoa! i remember that card...i had it since the very first day it came out, until i finally got upgraded to a geforce2MX 2-3 years ago. then FINALLY a geforce3 this year.

i dont think any agp card needs power, unless its a geforce FX 5700 or something. no 9xxx series from ATI dont require it either i dont think.

9800Pro needs a 4-pin molex.

Norm
 

aatf510

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Originally posted by: cevilgenius

9800Pro needs a 4-pin molex.

As well as my 9700Pro that I got in Sep 2002. It uses the floppy style connection which is becoming harder and harder to find on modern PSUs.
 

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The Voodoo 3 AGP version is a 3V AGP card. Don't plug in modern mainboards (after Nforce 2) or you will fry the mobo.

The "newer" AGP cards work with 1.5V only.
 

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Could be your motherboard not supplying enough power to the video card through the AGP slot, the Voodoo 3 is one of the more power hungry AGP cards at that time. I remember my old ABIT LX6 motherboard had issues with its AGP port not working correctly with the high power video cards of that era (TNT2's, Voodoo 3's).

EDIT: Google turned up this nugget of wisdom from here

9. Is the Voodoo3 2000 and 3000 compatible with my motherboard?

Here is a list of known motherboard hardware issues (voltage hardware issues will affect AGP models only):

The Abit LX6 pre-revision 1.1 has a known voltage issue.

The revision 1.05 Asus P2L97 has a known voltage issue. http://www.asus.com.tw/Products/Techref/Misc/rivatnt-rework.html

The pre-revision 1.10 Asus P2B is missing a necessary jumper to set the AGP slot to 66mhz.

The FIC PA-2013 (other than revision 2.1 PCB) has a voltage issue which will burn out the motherboard after an extended period of time using the Voodoo3.

FIC has a new VA-503+ FAQ which gives instruction on how to make an AGP Voodoo3 card work properly with this motherboard. http://www.fica.com/english/techsupp/faq/socket7/FAQ503+.htm

The FIC VB-601-V will fail to load Windows (protection error) with the current AMI Bios.

Multiple Gigabyte boards have known voltage issues, including the: GA-BXC , GA-BXE, and the GA-BX2000.

Here is a handy list (from the Gigabyte German website, no less) of Gigabyte boards that WILL work with the Voodoo3:

GA-BX2000 PCB ver.1.1 Jumper 20 und 21 muß gesetzt sein
GA-6BXC PCB ver.2.0
GA-6BXE PCB ver.2.0
GA-6BX7 PCB ver.1.4
GA-6BA PCB ver.3.0
GA-6ZXC PCB ver.2.0
GA-6VXE PCB ver.2.2
GA-6VA7 PCB ver.1.2

AGP voltage regulator notes: There is a problem with the combination of older motherboards and newer AGP graphic cards. This is due to the fact that some of the early AGP motherboards used a linear regulator to control the power supply to the AGP slot. Linear regulators can supply at most 2.5A of current, while the switching regulator used on newer motherboards can supply up to 6A at 3.3V. When these motherboards with linear regulators were produced, the average consumption of a graphics card was 1 to 2A, making a supply of 2.5A more than sufficient. Since then, graphic cards have developed and currently the average consumption is between 4 and 5A. This is no problem for motherboards using a switching regulator, but older boards with a linear regulator may run into issues such as overheating, burnouts, and lockups.
 

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My Asrock 939 mobo came with a sticker warning on the AGP port saying not to use a 3.3 volt graphics card. When I asked about it on these very forums I was told that this was the Voodoo 2 and 3 graphics card. Hope you haven't tried to turn it on with this card in it.

On a side note my old 9600 pro didn't need additional power.
 

rbV5

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You may be better off just looking for a cheap PCI card for the rig, maybe someone has one you could test?
 

secretanchitman

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there are some cheap fx5200/5500s or ati's 9250/9550 or something on the egg. you could try there...

there's a person on AT who has a "looking for a cheap dvi pci card?" on his sig. cant remember who it was...
 

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Originally posted by: Zero Plasma
I have the MSI K8N Neo2, and it has a 4x/8x AGP slot.

That slots not compatible with 2x, is it?

I looked and the layout of the small and large connectors are reversed.

no, it's not. that slot doesn't provide the voltage necessary.

edit: madellga hit it right on the head
 

Zero Plasma

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Well the PC worked fine for years but hasn't been on for 1.5 - 2. ?

I think i'll just look for another card.


Originally posted by: Boogak
Could be your motherboard not supplying enough power to the video card through the AGP slot, the Voodoo 3 is one of the more power hungry AGP cards at that time. I remember my old ABIT LX6 motherboard had issues with its AGP port not working correctly with the high power video cards of that era (TNT2's, Voodoo 3's).

EDIT: Google turned up this nugget of wisdom from here

9. Is the Voodoo3 2000 and 3000 compatible with my motherboard?

Here is a list of known motherboard hardware issues (voltage hardware issues will affect AGP models only):

The Abit LX6 pre-revision 1.1 has a known voltage issue.

The revision 1.05 Asus P2L97 has a known voltage issue. http://www.asus.com.tw/Products/Techref/Misc/rivatnt-rework.html

The pre-revision 1.10 Asus P2B is missing a necessary jumper to set the AGP slot to 66mhz.

The FIC PA-2013 (other than revision 2.1 PCB) has a voltage issue which will burn out the motherboard after an extended period of time using the Voodoo3.

FIC has a new VA-503+ FAQ which gives instruction on how to make an AGP Voodoo3 card work properly with this motherboard. http://www.fica.com/english/techsupp/faq/socket7/FAQ503+.htm

The FIC VB-601-V will fail to load Windows (protection error) with the current AMI Bios.

Multiple Gigabyte boards have known voltage issues, including the: GA-BXC , GA-BXE, and the GA-BX2000.

Here is a handy list (from the Gigabyte German website, no less) of Gigabyte boards that WILL work with the Voodoo3:

GA-BX2000 PCB ver.1.1 Jumper 20 und 21 muß gesetzt sein
GA-6BXC PCB ver.2.0
GA-6BXE PCB ver.2.0
GA-6BX7 PCB ver.1.4
GA-6BA PCB ver.3.0
GA-6ZXC PCB ver.2.0
GA-6VXE PCB ver.2.2
GA-6VA7 PCB ver.1.2

AGP voltage regulator notes: There is a problem with the combination of older motherboards and newer AGP graphic cards. This is due to the fact that some of the early AGP motherboards used a linear regulator to control the power supply to the AGP slot. Linear regulators can supply at most 2.5A of current, while the switching regulator used on newer motherboards can supply up to 6A at 3.3V. When these motherboards with linear regulators were produced, the average consumption of a graphics card was 1 to 2A, making a supply of 2.5A more than sufficient. Since then, graphic cards have developed and currently the average consumption is between 4 and 5A. This is no problem for motherboards using a switching regulator, but older boards with a linear regulator may run into issues such as overheating, burnouts, and lockups.