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loup garou

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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: mobobuff
Oh this is a cute little fight. Although a little one-sided...

And basements can be flood-proofed, even if the water table was level with the topography. I live in Michigan, trust me.
My friend has a house with a basement in New Orleans. If you can have one there, you can have one anywhere.

/end discussion

Back in pittsburgh we had a home that was built in the valley and the property had an underground spring that pass right by us. We and our neighbors had our fair share of flood problems living there. It's how the street got the Name: Spring Valley Drive.

NOBODY CARES
 

TechnoKid

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Originally posted by: RiDE
:confused:

I like this one though. :eek:

Deos anyone out there into video editing know what camera or filters they used to get that "flat" look in the picture? I know it has some to do with the lighting in the seen..
 

Googer

Lifer
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Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Originally posted by: RiDE
:confused:

I like this one though. :eek:

Deos anyone out there into video editing know what camera or filters they used to get that "flat" look in the picture? I know it has some to do with the lighting in the seen..


Flat, do you mean colour? I believe they have a UV filter and proper lighting. I know someone who is a retired lighting director. He did work for hollywood movies, comercials and NBC Today Show. He is an aquaintence of Tom Cruise. Save the Flames Please.
 

TechnoKid

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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Originally posted by: RiDE
:confused:

I like this one though. :eek:

Deos anyone out there into video editing know what camera or filters they used to get that "flat" look in the picture? I know it has some to do with the lighting in the seen..


Flat, do you mean colour? I believe they have a UV filter and proper lighting. I know someone who is a retired lighting director. He did work for hollywood movies, comercials and NBC Today Show. He is an aquaintence of Tom Cruise. Save the Flames Please.

well its obvious it is [artificial] lighting from a set. By flat, i mean that the blackest blacks dont look black. There is somewht of a nostalgic film feel to the video. It looks like a video taken on a stage play. I don't knwo the proper term for what i'm trying to describe as I'm not that into video and cinematography. I guess you could say that there is less saturation in the colour, but the colour scheme through is rather, well, grey, heh.

Perhaps it the conversion to PC video that doing it, or my monitor no properly calibrated to NTSC standards (but i do not over crank my brightness and contrast). I'm sure this video was shot and edited in digital.
 

Googer

Lifer
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Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Originally posted by: RiDE
:confused:

I like this one though. :eek:

Deos anyone out there into video editing know what camera or filters they used to get that "flat" look in the picture? I know it has some to do with the lighting in the seen..


Flat, do you mean colour? I believe they have a UV filter and proper lighting. I know someone who is a retired lighting director. He did work for hollywood movies, comercials and NBC Today Show. He is an aquaintence of Tom Cruise. Save the Flames Please.

well its obvious it is [artificial] lighting from a set. By flat, i mean that the blackest blacks dont look black. There is somewht of a nostalgic film feel to the video. It looks like a video taken on a stage play. I don't knwo the proper term for what i'm trying to describe as I'm not that into video and cinematography. I guess you could say that there is less saturation in the colour, but the colour scheme through is rather, well, grey, heh.

Perhaps it the conversion to PC video that doing it, or my monitor no properly calibrated to NTSC standards (but i do not over crank my brightness and contrast). I'm sure this video was shot and edited in digital.

A UV filter is half of that equasion. It makes blues bluer and whites softer.
 

TechnoKid

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Originally posted by: Googer
It looks like a video taken on a stage play.
It is a very well done edit. Look very closely you will see several cuts in the motion.

i noticed those edits/cuts. the video, i just like they way it looks.
 

Googer

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Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Originally posted by: Googer
It looks like a video taken on a stage play.
It is a very well done edit. Look very closely you will see several cuts in the motion.

i noticed those edits/cuts. the video, i just like they way it looks.

I think what you mean is the colour tone, right?
 

Googer

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ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Googer

What may be old to you is new to someone else.

then bump the old fscking thread instead of making a new one!
 

TechnoKid

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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Originally posted by: Googer
It looks like a video taken on a stage play.
It is a very well done edit. Look very closely you will see several cuts in the motion.

i noticed those edits/cuts. the video, i just like they way it looks.

I think what you mean is the colour tone, right?

yeah...probably. this type of 'color tone' i see all the time on old reruns of old shows like..."i love lucy" type shows except in color, heh, i can't really think or remember the names of any other old shows. I tend to think of old color slides/film when i see this type of video/film.

What i don't like nowadays is the computer filters that are used to give a digital video the look of 8mm (or something similar). the majority of the 'filters' that give this look are really noticeable to my eye. i've seen few good ones. Mainly the way I can tell is the contrast, digital+filter still loos too good to be old film. It's kind of a hard thing to describe, but I'm sure you know what I am talking about.
 

Googer

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Old film gets Its look because Film records and responds differantly to light than a single CCD/CmoS camera. Age also plays a role on several fromts.
1) Age: as film gets older the colours start to fade and change, It's a chemical reaction.
2) Technology Improves the colour of film so a movie made on film today will have a diferant colour spectrum and temperature than one made 20years ago. Even IF the colours did not change over time.
3) Newer Digital Cameras and Older Beta-Max cameras used 3 CCD sensors vs on 1 CCD sensor in home consumer cameras. On professional cameras Each Colour gets it's own CCD Red, Green, and Blue vs 1 shared CCD for all 3 colours on home/consumer cameras.

It all boils down to equipment, technology, and how it is used.
 

Googer

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Googer
My free FTP space is provided by aol, I could use something else but I would not provide me with the bandwith I need to streem videos for all of you. Instead I will provide a slow as MOLEasses link next time I have some video to share.

What may be old to you is new to someone else.

Like some other AOLer staying up past his bedtime in the dark corner of his parent's basement posting crappy videos that are old enough to have been carved on the back of the Ten Commandments?

- M4H

I have seen you many times before on forums.anandtech.com and untill now I though you were a respectable, mature, and knowledgeable person. But I have my doubts now. I am not looking for a fight, just a place where Ideas and knowledge can be exchanged freely and respectfully.
 
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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Googer
My free FTP space is provided by aol, I could use something else but I would not provide me with the bandwith I need to streem videos for all of you. Instead I will provide a slow as MOLEasses link next time I have some video to share.

What may be old to you is new to someone else.

Like some other AOLer staying up past his bedtime in the dark corner of his parent's basement posting crappy videos that are old enough to have been carved on the back of the Ten Commandments?

- M4H

I have seen you many times before on forums.anandtech.com and untill now I though you were a respectable, mature, and knowledgeable person. But I have my doubts now. I am not looking for a fight, just a place where Ideas and knowledge can be exchanged freely and respectfully.

The rest of the Internet exchanged this particular "knowledge" months ago. Please ask AOL to send you The Internet v.NonRepost, thanks.

- M4H

 

sxr7171

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Originally posted by: RiDE
:confused:

I like this one though. :eek:

That's the best ad ever, I can't believe how catchy it is. I've watched it like 7 times already. Who thinks up this stuff?! So creative.
 

UbiSunt

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Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: mobobuff
Oh this is a cute little fight. Although a little one-sided...

And basements can be flood-proofed, even if the water table was level with the topography. I live in Michigan, trust me.
My friend has a house with a basement in New Orleans. If you can have one there, you can have one anywhere.

/end discussion

I don't believe you and never will unless the house is built on the levee itself. New Orleans is almost twenty feet below sea level. The water table is what the streets float on. I'm pretty sure that you've never been to Louisiana and certainly not New Orleans.
 

CRXican

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I don't care who made it. It was funny the first time I saw it, last year!
 

MrDudeMan

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ok, im sick of the crap being thrown around by googer about basements. ive designed 300+ foundations in areas that you would think were impossible to develop. a high water table means you need an engineer that isnt a retard; thats all. in Irving, Texas, the water table is 5-8 feet below surface, yet we still manage to build houses on steep hills with no retaining structures to hold the load. go figure!

high water tables are EASILY countered with piers. below water, there is always rock. soil has a safe loading pressure of 1500lbs/in^2, but you can go up to 4000 since 1500 has a large safety zone built in. all that matters when you are designing a house is the potential vertical rise (PVR) and plasticity (PI). if you have a PVR of > 4", that means the height in the soil can change 4 inches in the span of a year (or 4 seasons, including 1 wet and 1 dry season). in Irving, ive designed 150,000sq. ft. multi-level slabs on a PVR of 14-16". that takes a big crap on residential contruction criteria, even in a place like florida.

the second factor is PI. that is the soils ability to retain water without swelling. the higher the PI, the less water it can hold until it starts losing its ability to retain usable Qu (loading pressure). the worst it gets is high 70s or low 80s (found mostly on coast lines). again, once you hit that saturation, you rely on the engineering. how the hell do you think they build skyscrappers and massive hotels on coast lines? surely if that can be done, a house with less than 4000lb reactions (specific force at a point in metal structures) can have a basement.

as for new orleans, it is no different in terms of PVR, PI, or Qu than anywhere else that experiences unfavorable soil conditions for construction.


edit: i forgot the most important part of this...basement design! basements are sometimes less susceptible to movement than the actual house. a properly designed french drain and sump pump can keep any basement dry. if you guys dont think so, its just because wherever you have lived, the builders were using the "cheap" or "light" engineers. if the engineering is done properly, there is almost no obstacle which can not be overcome for residential use. dont forget that prestressed concrete can hold many thousands of pounds for long distances, and only the perimeter of a house is going to lift or sag, so once again, proper engineering will counter this water "problem".
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Googer
... the door itself is not visible. In south Florida, basements are built above ground if at all, since the water table is very high. ...

ever heard of plastic, noob?

By your logic swimming pools are impossible, since all the water would seep out into the surrounding ground...and ships can't float, since their hull is below the water level and will slowly fill with water.