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Vlite can now slipstream service pack 1 for vista

That article implies that Microsoft it going to make some changes with Vista SP2 so that simplified slipstreaming is possible?
 
no, service pack 1 for vista. that link is not an article but link for newest version of vlite. i am going to test it shortly after my download of service pack 1 finishes
 
not sure how he is doing it but it does take some time, on my system it took around 1 hour to complete. i will be remaking the image again tomorrow to fix the bug that was present.
 
Only thing is...at this point, who would use this beta-level procedure?

A typical home user might install Vista once a year.

A small business user isn't likely to risk this beta process, since, if a month from now it proves not quite correct, it'll mean re-installing the OS and all the apps from scratch.

Large businesses have access to Vista SP1 integrated images.
 
i do not think the maker of nlite and vlite intended it for businesses, it is just for users like me and others like me who use it for our personal use
 
Originally posted by: RebateMonger
Only thing is...at this point, who would use this beta-level procedure?

A typical home user might install Vista once a year.
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Well the large amount of time it takes to install SP1 on a Vista RTM system means it would be very handy to have an install disc with SP1 integrated, even if you do only install once a year.


 
Originally posted by: Canterwood
So how does this guy manage to do something MS says can't be done?

Fair play to him though if it works properly.
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I don't think Microsoft ever said "it couldn't be done". From what I understand, it was originally a planned feature, but was later scrapped due to time and complications. The implication is that public support for "slipstreaming" your existing DVD just isn't a pri-1 scenario.

I'm not surprised that it got cut. It appears that SP1 has been a painful effort for Microsoft. The fact that a "SP1 Prerequisite" patch exists is a good indicator that Microsoft probably had to fix some fundamental problems with the Patch Engine itself before the SP1 package could itself be rolled out. When the SP1 schedule slipped out, I'm sure it was one of the first cuts. (Sp1 was originally rumored to be due this past December, IIRC.)

Microsoft obviously is already mass-producing the official "Sp1-integrated" Vista installation media, and those will replace the RTM media for all retail copies in stores eventually. No doubt they want this media to be widespread. The question is whether they need to go to the trouble of supporting a mechanism for end-users to slipstream their own media at home. Naturally, the question is how many home users actually do this?

Remember, the vast majority of Microsoft's customers get Vista from an OEM like Dell, who will of course have access to SP1-integrated media to put on new systems and package into "restore" media for customers buying new PCs. Most of these users have no idea what slipstreaming is, and even if they did, it wouldn't likely work on the restore media provided by their OEM. So slipstreaming really doesn't apply to this crowd.

IT managers at large corporations with volume-license agreements will automatically receive SP1-integrated media. And IT managers for smaller businesses will either download the integrated ISO with their MSDN/Technet subscription, or will eventually buy a new retail copy of Vista that has the SP1-integrated media already. So slipstreaming doesn't really apply to this crowd either (note that it used to be the main audience).

That leaves us with a much smaller segment of retail DVD purchasers. And only a portion of those would make use of slipstreaming, namely if:

  • - you are frequently wiping and re-installing Vista for some reason
    - you don't and won't have access to a Sp1-integrated copy of Vista prior to SP2 (buying a new one for a 2nd PC, borrowing one from a friend, etc)
    - you are technically savvy enough to know about slipstreaming and determined enough to learn how to do it 🙂
Apparently Microsoft was satisfied that this segment of customers is sufficiently small that they could stand to be disappointed until SP2. At least, that's how I see it.

Anyway, look at the bright side: at least there is an active community that fills in these gaps in Microsoft's priorities! 🙂
 
Check out the thread I started and the solution that QuixoticOne gave there...which was to use BitTorrent (or any other torrent) to get the MS provided integrated Vista SP1 x86 and/or Vista SP x64 .iso's.

I just did this for my Vista Home Premium x64 OEM system and did a fresh install after burning that .iso...worked perfectly. Yes, it took 24 hours to download, but, at least after verifying the hash I knew it was a perfect .iso...no mistakes or glitches.

Will MS exchange Vista original disks for Vista w/ SP1 disks?

Chuck
 
yes but with Vlite it only takes around 90 minutes to slipstream service pack1 plus you are assured that it is a untouched image. i would be carefull using torrents
 
In you guys's opinion is vlite an application someone who does not overclock and meerly wants the utmost gaming performance should use?
 
it is more for gaining saved time on reinstalls than getting better gaming performance. you can integrate drivers and hotfixes as well as service packs plus there are some teaks you can do and remove some things from vista.
 
Originally posted by: hclarkjr
it is more for gaining saved time on reinstalls than getting better gaming performance. you can integrate drivers and hotfixes as well as service packs plus there are some teaks you can do and remove some things from vista.
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My issue with this though (removing things from Vista) is that it was the VLite folks that couldn't apply SP1 to their Vista boxes (not integrated - I mean someone uses vlite to make a Vista install without XYZ services, then six months later they try to SP1 it and they can't) -- that alone would make me never use vlite again.

FWIW, I think the xp version of the tool is the best thing since sliced bread. I have routinely used it for XP installs, integrating all the patches, hotfixes, etc. into one handy dandy CDROM install that is worlds faster - plus I integrate all my drivers for common (nvidia, ATI, intel chipsets, etc.) hardware. Works great!!
 
if you remember dclive nlite went through the same teething pains that vlite is going through now. give it time and i am sure nuhi will have it on par with nlite. i too have used nlite for years and have now moved to vista
 
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