westihockey09

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First off, I was thinking about purchasing the home basic version of Vista. Should I? Second, if I do should I buy the 32 bit Vista version or should i buy the 64 bit Vista version? Why?

My Rig:
Asus A8N5X Mobo
1gb of Corsair ValueSelect Ram
80gb @ 7200rpm Seagate Hardrive
eVGa 7600GT KO PCI-E
Creative Audigy Sound Card
AMD FX-55 @ 2.6ghz.
Lite-On 16x CD/DVD-RW

Thanks In Advance,
Westi
 

mechBgon

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1) You asked this already in Operating Systems, which is the right place :) and got some answers, including mine. Hope that helps!

2) as a general guideline, bump maybe once every 4 hours if you need to
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: westihockey09
First off, I was thinking about purchasing the home basic version of Vista. Should I?
No, you shouldn't buy any version of Vista, at least until they have released SP1, if not SP2. And don't even consider spending all that money on Vista, until you have spent the money upgrading to a minimum of 2GB of RAM. 2GB in Vista= 1GB in XP, and 1GB isn't really enough for most people in XP.;)
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: myocardia
Originally posted by: westihockey09
First off, I was thinking about purchasing the home basic version of Vista. Should I?
No, you shouldn't buy any version of Vista, at least until they have released SP1, if not SP2.
My WinXP Pro needed eight Critical-level security updates this month.

My Vista installation needed zero. The security issues don't affect it.

Makes ya go hmmm. WinXP is in the middle of its lifespan, two years into its current service pack, and evidently still isn't as secure as Vista SP0. Why are we waiting for SP1 or SP2, again? Just software incompatibilities with old software, or what?


More interesting reading: Symantec's research, finding that about 95% of the current crop of Windows malware they tested is broken on Vista. Hey, I could live with that kind of software incompatibility... :D

edit: oh, and I agree, 2GB+ of RAM for sure.
 

Blain

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Originally posted by: westihockey09
First off,
Second,
First off, take this question to the proper forum. That would be "Operating Systems"
Second, go with Windows 95

 

Lord Evermore

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mechBgon: Just because the crackers haven't yet gotten on a roll doesn't mean they won't. OH WOW, malware designed for XP doesn't work in Vista, it must be so secure they'll never be able to hack it.
 

dguy6789

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Originally posted by: Lord Evermore
mechBgon: Just because the crackers haven't yet gotten on a roll doesn't mean they won't. OH WOW, malware designed for XP doesn't work in Vista, it must be so secure they'll never be able to hack it.

When they do find a way to sneak into Vista, there will be updates for that. But for now, if I was to visit some random site designed to destroy Windows XP(most malware sites are designed for XP), chances are, it would have no effect on me. Beyond that, for random silly people, UAC would protect them.
 

SparkyJJO

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from what I've read, vista home basic isn't worth the $$$, home premium is better. So I've heard. I'm not buying vista until the college gets vista ultimate for $40 or some ridiculously low price like that (got my XP Pro for $20 after all :D)
 

Lord Evermore

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Originally posted by: dguy6789
Originally posted by: Lord Evermore
mechBgon: Just because the crackers haven't yet gotten on a roll doesn't mean they won't. OH WOW, malware designed for XP doesn't work in Vista, it must be so secure they'll never be able to hack it.

When they do find a way to sneak into Vista, there will be updates for that. But for now, if I was to visit some random site designed to destroy Windows XP(most malware sites are designed for XP), chances are, it would have no effect on me. Beyond that, for random silly people, UAC would protect them.

As far as I know, attacks on Win98 or older versions of IE didn't all automatically affect XP/2k. Of course the latest version is going to be protected against known threats, and threats that affect a different security design and basic architecture.
 

w00t

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Why?

I don't see a reason to upgrade to Vista

if you can even call it an "Upgrade"
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: westihockey09
First off, I was thinking about purchasing the home basic version of Vista. Should I? Second, if I do should I buy the 32 bit Vista version or should i buy the 64 bit Vista version? Why?

My Rig:
Asus A8N5X Mobo
1gb of Corsair ValueSelect Ram
80gb @ 7200rpm Seagate Hardrive
eVGa 7600GT KO PCI-E
Creative Audigy Sound Card
AMD FX-55 @ 2.6ghz.
Lite-On 16x CD/DVD-RW

Thanks In Advance,
Westi

Vista home has none of the bells and whistles that you associate with Vista!!
Also the first release of Vista can be compared to when Microsoft released Windows ME....
Wait and get the next version of Vista!!
 

corkyg

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OK, mods - how about moving this thread to the Operating System Forum?
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: Lord Evermore
mechBgon: Just because the crackers haven't yet gotten on a roll doesn't mean they won't. OH WOW, malware designed for XP doesn't work in Vista, it must be so secure they'll never be able to hack it.
I could spend the rest of my morning replying to this :) Suffice it to say, after being responsible for computer security on a fleet of about 65-75 systems for years, studying malware infection methods, reading many thousands of detailed malware descriptions to learn their MO, and reading about a dozen security blogs daily, I see great value in the additional safeguards that Vista has and XP doesn't.

The bad guys will still find holes, but with the inherent damage-containment value of UAC, WIC, services hardening and other Vista enhancements, they're still going to get only non-Admin powers with most of them, and they'll still be up against the new Windows Integrity Control layer of protection too, Any exploit they did manage at the Admin level would be tiptoeing among the tripwires of the services restrictions that watch for a Windows service to do something out of character. Uh oh, I am making good on my threat to spend the rest of my morning on this :D

Anyway, you can form your own conclusions, but I've based mine on a fair amount of study, not just anecdotal guesswork. My prediction is that the bad guys will focus harder on simply suckering the users with Trojans, so user education is going to become more important.
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: corkyg
OK, mods - how about moving this thread to the Operating System Forum?
Or lock it, since the OP already has a duplicate of this post in OS.