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Vista Ultimate, disc cleaner weirdness

Steve325

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it's weird because if I was to clean 108gb off my HD, it would be well over it's capacity. It's a 250 gb HD with 188 remaining, which is still unclear to me where 10 gb of it went. I added up everything from windows, program files, users, etc and only accounted for 24 gb of it missing.
 
That looks like a bug to me.

Some of the missing 10GB is your pagefile and hibernation file.
 
Originally posted by: Steve325
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it's weird because if I was to clean 108gb off my HD, it would be well over it's capacity. It's a 250 gb HD with 188 remaining, which is still unclear to me where 10 gb of it went. I added up everything from windows, program files, users, etc and only accounted for 24 gb of it missing.

Its a bug, hard drive corruption (run chkdsk), or error reporting uses sparse files and is going by file size not allocation (and you have a heck of a lot of error files in that case...)

 
I will run chkdisk in a few minutes. I just did a little math to see where it stand, it's not only 10gb, it's actually approaching 30gb!

windows - 7.5gb
users - 7.4gb
program files - 6gb

free space 185 gb, hd space 232 gb

that's where everyhting that is over 100mb can be find to my knowledge. I can't find the page file or hibernation files anywhere. I'd really like to turn off hibernation, it's just an unneeded space waster for me

powercfg -H off

I've tried that command and it didn't do anything for me
 
Originally posted by: Steve325
I will run chkdisk in a few minutes. I just did a little math to see where it stand, it's not only 10gb, it's actually approaching 30gb!

The rest is most likely system restore.

I can't find the page file or hibernation files anywhere. I'd really like to turn off hibernation, it's just an unneeded space waster for me

They are in the root of the boot drive (by default) just marked hidden and system. Also, why is the hibernation file wasted space? Sleep uses it, most people simply don't need to reboot much anymore.

Bill
 
Not sure why you're worried about reclaiming that space when you have a 250GB hard drive. System restore can be very useful.
 
it's just the sake I wanted to know where the space was and I kinda wanted to reclaim it. One option I did like about XP is that you could set the allocated space. I've been searching around and in Vista it seems like you HAVE to give up 15% + 8gb for the OS
 
Originally posted by: Steve325
it's just the sake I wanted to know where the space was and I kinda wanted to reclaim it. One option I did like about XP is that you could set the allocated space. I've been searching around and in Vista it seems like you HAVE to give up 15% + 8gb for the OS

It's certainly your computer to use as you want, but I never understand folks who work so hard to work around the good things the system does on your behalf. Why you want to reboot instead of sleep for example, or live without the safety net of sysem restore.

To each their own I guess.

 
Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: Steve325
it's just the sake I wanted to know where the space was and I kinda wanted to reclaim it. One option I did like about XP is that you could set the allocated space. I've been searching around and in Vista it seems like you HAVE to give up 15% + 8gb for the OS

It's certainly your computer to use as you want, but I never understand folks who work so hard to work around the good things the system does on your behalf. Why you want to reboot instead of sleep for example, or live without the safety net of sysem restore.

To each their own I guess.

I just don't understand the sleep button. What's the advantages and disadvantages? The 30 seconds that it takes to boot on a computer is not a big deal to me. Is it hurting me by turning it off? I wanna save power. I'm sure sleep does this, but I can't see it saving more than just flat out turning it off when it's not needed.
 
I just don't understand the sleep button. What's the advantages and disadvantages? The 30 seconds that it takes to boot on a computer is not a big deal to me. Is it hurting me by turning it off? I wanna save power. I'm sure sleep does this, but I can't see it saving more than just flat out turning it off when it's not needed.

Sleep is Vista's new mix of suspend and hibernate. Basically the system suspends to memory and also writes out the memory context to disk. While in memory the system can go to a very low power mode and wake up very quickly when you hit the kb or mouse (or other wake event). After a timeout (configurable) the system can turn entirely off (e.g. hibernation). Hibernation is 'off' in that you can unplug the computer if you like.

The benefit of this is, when you turn the computer back on it returns to where you left it (e.g. if you had winword and supreme commander running, they are still there when you return from hibernation). When you fully reboot you need to relaunch everything to return to the place you were when you logged off.

Hibernation takes the same amount of 'boot' time roughly but you don't have the extra time of returning to where you were before shutting down. For many people this is a big time saver.

 
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