Vista SP1 available NOW...?

[JustaGeek]

How about us at AnandTech...?

PCWorld article.


"With little fanfare, Microsoft Corp. has moved up the availability of Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1) for TechNet and Microsoft Developer Network subscribers, saying they will be able to download the update by Friday at the latest.

It was the second time in three days that Microsoft changed the release of the release-to-manufacturing (RTM) version of Vista SP1 for the IT professionals and developers who pay hundreds of dollars annually for the right to download and test software before it's offered to the general public."

 

[bsobel]

Not overly surprising, they really pissed a bunch of folks off with the original decision.
Bill

 

[htne]

I don't think most people appreciate just how much an MSDN subscription costs. Before I retired, the company I worked for was paying around $2500 a year for my subscription. Now that I'm retired, I get all of this fine stuff off of the internet much faster than those who have paid big bucks to Microsoft. It sort of makes you wonder......

 

[bsobel]

Originally posted by: htne
I don't think most people appreciate just how much an MSDN subscription costs. Before I retired, the company I worked for was paying around $2500 a year for my subscription. Now that I'm retired, I get all of this fine stuff off of the internet much faster than those who have paid big bucks to Microsoft. It sort of makes you wonder......

...if your bragging about pirating?

 

[QuixoticOne]

They should just make it available for ANYONE to download NOW.

After all, it's all well and good that TechNet/MSDN people tend to be pro. developers / sysadmins, but what they're paying for with MSDN isn't SERVICE PACKS (ANYONE should get those), it's development tools and cross-platform testing opportunities etc.

As for SERVICE PACKS, anyone who's got the OS that it belongs to has already (in one way or another) PAID for a supposedly well functioning product, and that's what they deserve for their money, no delays, no excuses.

 

[bsobel]

Originally posted by: QuixoticOne
They should just make it available for ANYONE to download NOW.

After all, it's all well and good that TechNet/MSDN people tend to be pro. developers / sysadmins, but what they're paying for with MSDN isn't SERVICE PACKS (ANYONE should get those), it's development tools and cross-platform testing opportunities etc.

As for SERVICE PACKS, anyone who's got the OS that it belongs to has already (in one way or another) PAID for a supposedly well functioning product, and that's what they deserve for their money, no delays, no excuses.

Agreed. Now I can see delaying the Windows Update posting (there are still driver issues to be resolved). But if your willing to download it now given the restrictions/warnings and are willing to take that risk, I agree completely.

Bill

 

[htne]

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: htne
I don't think most people appreciate just how much an MSDN subscription costs. Before I retired, the company I worked for was paying around $2500 a year for my subscription. Now that I'm retired, I get all of this fine stuff off of the internet much faster than those who have paid big bucks to Microsoft. It sort of makes you wonder......

...if your bragging about pirating?

No, I wasn't bragging about pirating. I thought twice before pressing the "Reply to Topic" button on the original comment -- but this is not "pirating" -- or at least, I don't think it is. The Service Packs are not for sale, they are freely downloadable (eventually ). Microsoft has some weird ideas about other people hosting their Service Packs and Hot Fixes (for reference, look at AutoPatcher). But I believe they would have a heck of a hard time trying to prosecute anyone for downloading a service pack. Of course, if they're as crazy as the RIAA they might very well try.

My original comment was really intended to help others who are unfamiliar with the cost of an MSDN subscription understand why those folks might be so upset about being left out.

 

[mechBgon]

I'd have serious concerns about downloading updates from a non-authorized source. They could be Trojanized, and my experience has been that antivirus detection rates on Trojans can be quite low in real life. Best to stick with authorized sources, IMHO. The Vista EULA includes a line on this topic, for those interested:

5. d. You may only obtain updates or upgrades for the software from Microsoft or authorized sources.

Tangentially: yes, the bad guys know people are interested in SP1, to the point they'll issue a Spam run to lure the gullible.

Yes, it?s a ridiculous spam, but the malware it delivers is a rather nasty spambot. As Adam here says ?This is a very hard-to-remove spambot (full kernel malware), capitalizing on recent news events.?

 

[bsobel]

My original comment was really intended to help others who are unfamiliar with the cost of an MSDN subscription understand why those folks might be so upset about being left out.

My apologies, from your post I infered you meant items such as the OS's, applications, dev tools, etc. I agree with your position on the service pack, silly move on MS's part (albeit they seem to be backpeddling daily, SP1 is now on MSDN)

 

[wdb1966]

http://www.computerworld.com/a...58&intsrc=news_ts_head

 

[corkyg]

I don't think many understand what a good deal a TechNet Plus subscription is. First year for an individual is $350. Subesequent renewal years are $250.

That allows you to download the ISO file for ALL common Microsoft products along with legit key IDs.

For my $350, I got Vista (Keys for all versions) 64 and 32. Office Pro 2007; XP Pro with SP2 integrated; Frontpage 2003; Server 2008; and a bunch of SPs and miscellaneous apps.

I suspect MSDN is similar.

 

[RebateMonger]

The Technet Plus and the MSDN subscriptions have completely different purposes. TechNet is barred for use in software development. MSDN is intended only for development use.

What is the difference between a TechNet and an MSDN subscription?

TechNet is designed for hands-on IT professionals who evaluate, implement, maintain and support Microsoft solutions. The Microsoft Developer Network (MSDN) subscription is designed for developers who create and test applications built on Microsoft technologies. While there is some content overlap, each subscription contains information and resources that are specific to its audience. The TechNet library is published monthly and contains the complete Microsoft Knowledge Base, security updates, resource kits, technical training, operations and deployment guides, white papers, case studies, downloads, and more. The MSDN library is published quarterly and documents all Microsoft software development kits (SDKs) and device driver kits (DDKs), provides sample applications and utilities for Windows programmers, and contains the Microsoft Developer Knowledge Base.

 

[corkyg]

Originally posted by: RebateMonger
The Technet Plus and the MSDN subscriptions have completely different purposes. TechNet is barred for use in software development. MSDN is intended only for development use.[/i]

That is correct! The TechNet subscription is available to anyone who pays the fee. It has definitely been a ganga deal for me.

 

[JustaGeek]

Originally posted by: JustaGeek

How about us at AnandTech...?

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Well, sometimes wishful thinking becomes fulfilled real soon...

 

[QuixoticOne]

Here's a way to get the standalone installer SP1 files.

This lets you get the all the likely needed prerequisite and SP1 cab files or MSU installer files right from the Microsoft download server and gives you a way to save the files for standalone use on non-networked PCs.

If only I had known about this a few days ago I wouldn't have wasted 72+ hours fighting with a Vista install working and updated to SP1 on a PC whose wireless networking didn't work right without SP1.

Last time I looked they weren't on the general microsoft download center, and I couldn't be bothered to check MSDN / TechNet at the time to see what exactly was there.

http://www.mydigitallife.info/...rtm-with-wu-cab-files/