vista or wait for win 7 release?

kornphlake

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I'm considering a new computer and need to know which OS to purchase for it, I've been using XP Pro for a long time. I'm pretty decided that I won't be installing XP again though, with the release of SP3 I've noticed that my computer no longer launches apps in what I'd consider a short amount of time. My home computer is an Athlon XP 2500+ system with half a 512mb RAM, I can understand it being a little slow for some applications, but opening Internet Explorer isn't one that I'd expect to wait for, and I never noticed it being slow until hundreds of updates and 3 service packs had been installed, a fresh install didn't bring back the fresh feeling either. My work computer is a CAD workstation based on a Core 2 6600 processor with 4gb RAM, it hardly outpaces my home computer when it comes to day to day tasks like opening up IE, MS word or sorting through a folder with image files using the filmstrip or thumbnail view.

I've poked around with some of the computers at electronics stores running Vista and they seem considerably faster when it comes to launching apps, even the low budget computers with celeron or sempron processors and as little as 1gb RAM. I've never felt like the GUI was a big enough change to warrant an upgrade, and the fact that from the beginning it's been called a resource hog and no more secure or stable than XP. Now I'm reading about Win 7 and people are comparing it to Linux as far as hardware demands and memory usage which has perked my interest, but I'm hesitant to jump on the software bandwagon so quickly, I usually like to wait until an OS has been on the market at least a year or until the first service pack has been released. Whatever OS I decide on it will be the OS for that system until the hardware is replaced, at this point I don't plan on keeping any computer less than 5 years.

Questions:
1) Is a newer OS really going to run faster on new hardware than XP or is my observation a placebo?

2) What are the advantages to installing XP on a system now then upgrading to Win 7 when it is released in the fall versus installing Vista and keeping it for the next several years. Do I need to meet any specific hardware recommendations to run Win 7? When Vista was released most people found they didn't have enough RAM or GPU power to run the OS, will any modern system run Win 7 without hiccups?

3) Are there any indications how much longer MS will continue to support XP and Vista through updates and service packs once Win 7 is released?
 

z1ggy

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I will just breifly say if you are willing to reformat or partition your HD and do all the backing up, etc..then I would say go for windows 7. If you dont want to deal with all the fuss then just keep vista. Make sure tho you get 64 bit since you using 4gb of ram. Also..if your doing a lot of CAD work..4gb might not be enough. Same with the cpu..I think those type of programs actually utilize all 4 cores of a quad..but don't hold me on that, I coudl be wrong.
 

kornphlake

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I should have been more clear, this will be for my home computer, mostly web browsing, some photo editing, no games or otherwise CPU or graphics intensive applications. At the moment I'd only considered 2gb RAM, but 4gb wouldn't hurt for photo editing I'm sure.
 

KeypoX

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vista is freakin awesome compared to xp. But windows 7 is even better, with less requirements than vista.

Personally i can barely deal with xp anymore. Im so used to the way things are done the new way that i could never spend time searching a start menu again.
 

fuzzybabybunny

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1. Windows 7 will run really well on new hardware and be pretty snappy. IMO Vista is actually slower on the same hardware. I don't think you should be dealing with XP.

2. If you're going to buy a pre-made computer, google for "free Windows 7 upgrade." I think it starts sometime next week, but people who buy a full computer with Windows Vista will get a free upgrade to Windows 7 when it comes out. Subject to retailer participation in the program. Yeah, MS wants people to switch from Vista to Windows 7 THAT badly... Windows 7 will run better than Vista on comparable hardware. I have specs similar to the CAD workstation - Q6600, 8GB RAM, and it works awesome on Windows 7, even better than when I had Vista. My laptop with a low voltage mobile C2D and lower end nVidia Go run fine on it as well.
 

Mem

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Yeah, MS wants people to switch from Vista to Windows 7 THAT badly... Windows 7 will run better than Vista on comparable hardware

Microsoft have already stated they are going back to 3 year cycle for new OS so nothing to do with Vista,personally I find Win7 only faster on low spec PCs,anyway you stated about " "free Windows 7 upgrade" with pre- built etc..
Remember Win7 was based /built upon Vista so they had a template to work which helped time wise to get it ready for the public.


Info on Windows 8 which is already in the pipeline link and here.
If Microsoft sticks to the kind of schedule to which it has adhered with Windows 7, Windows 8 will be released around 2011 (with Microsoft publicly promising a 2012 delivery target).






3) Are there any indications how much longer MS will continue to support XP and Vista through updates and service packs once Win 7 is released?

Don't worry about Vista its still got a lot of life left , ,and I believe they are going to make DX11 available at some point later for Vista .
Personally I feel people should be using Vista or Win7 for the better security over XP ,its had a very good run.


 

fuzzybabybunny

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Originally posted by: Mem
Yeah, MS wants people to switch from Vista to Windows 7 THAT badly... Windows 7 will run better than Vista on comparable hardware

Microsoft have already stated they are going back to 3 year cycle for new OS so nothing to do with Vista,personally I find Win7 only faster on low spec PCs,anyway you stated about " "free Windows 7 upgrade" with pre- built etc..
Remember Win7 was based /built upon Vista so they had a template to work which helped time wise to get it ready for the public.

I think that it does have something to do with Vista. I mean, the upgrade is FREE. A new operating system, entirely free. They WANT people to upgrade. Microsoft feels that there's enough of a pressing need for their consumers to have Windows 7 that they're willing to incur the cost themselves to give it to people for free. This seems independent of any kind of release cycle.
 

California Roll

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Win7 RC is free. Download it and install it. You've got months to try it out. If you like it, go buy Win7 at release. If you don't like it at anytime, buy Vista. It's win-win.
 

Binky

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Unless you need something in the next few days, there's really zero reason to NOT wait until the manufacturers start offering "free" upgrades to Win7 upon release.

You can have both. Get a Vista machine now (soon really) and then upgrade it to Win7 once its released.

Edit: For full disclosure, let me add that I'm not a big fan of Vista. My main home machine now dual boots XP and Win7 RC. I find myself rarely booting into XP...
 

Mem

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Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
Originally posted by: Mem
Yeah, MS wants people to switch from Vista to Windows 7 THAT badly... Windows 7 will run better than Vista on comparable hardware

Microsoft have already stated they are going back to 3 year cycle for new OS so nothing to do with Vista,personally I find Win7 only faster on low spec PCs,anyway you stated about " "free Windows 7 upgrade" with pre- built etc..
Remember Win7 was based /built upon Vista so they had a template to work which helped time wise to get it ready for the public.

I think that it does have something to do with Vista. I mean, the upgrade is FREE. A new operating system, entirely free. They WANT people to upgrade. Microsoft feels that there's enough of a pressing need for their consumers to have Windows 7 that they're willing to incur the cost themselves to give it to people for free. This seems independent of any kind of release cycle.


Free to some only(July 1st 2009 onwards) ,something they have done in the pass with their older operating systems,anyway more info here and here so basically only three months or so before Win7 release so nothing drastic,you can bet they will offer samething to Win7 pre built PCs few months before Win8 release.
 

kornphlake

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I don't plan on purchasing a Dell, HP, Compaq, etc. The free upgrade to Win 7 is limited to customers who purchase a computer with Vista preinstalled right? If I purchase a retail or OEM copy of the software only will I get the free upgrade?
 

Mem

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Originally posted by: kornphlake
I don't plan on purchasing a Dell, HP, Compaq, etc. The free upgrade to Win 7 is limited to customers who purchase a computer with Vista preinstalled right? If I purchase a retail or OEM copy of the software only will I get the free upgrade?

Just run Win7 RC until its released then get an OEM or retail copy of Win7.

 

fuzzybabybunny

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Originally posted by: Mem
Originally posted by: kornphlake
I don't plan on purchasing a Dell, HP, Compaq, etc. The free upgrade to Win 7 is limited to customers who purchase a computer with Vista preinstalled right? If I purchase a retail or OEM copy of the software only will I get the free upgrade?

Just run Win7 RC until its released then get an OEM or retail copy of Win7.

This. Win7 RC license is until... 2010... right?
 

z1ggy

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Correct. Aprox MArch 2010 you will get messages every day/week reminding you your trial is going to run out. You h ave til about June 2010 until your computer will shut off...
 

JessicaD

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z1ggy,

Beginning March of 2010, not only will you get messages constantly but your computer will also begin to restart every two hours. June 2010 is when your computer will not be able to load Windows 7 any longer. But we are a year away from that part! In the mean time, Windows 7 RC is available for download directly from Microsoft. To learn more, Microsoft does have a site with whitepapers, tutorials, walkthroughs and screen casts on all the ?under the hood? features in Win 7. Check out the Springboard site for Windows 7 on TechNet here http://tinyurl.com/832nco

Jessica
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