Vista on NewEgg

[randay]

time to upgrade my computer soon 🙁

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: tagej
Anyone who would consider buying Vista should read this excellent review/analysis of Vista and the wonderful world of DRM.

Thanks for posting the link. I've been concerned about many of the points raised there, and while it's only one source, most of it seems likely to be right, to me.

I think the worst potential thing is it potentially kills innovation from small developers, which is where all the existing big players got started, even Microsoft.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: us3rnotfound
Id have things the other way around, but kudos to you for wasting your money 🙂

Then you'd be the one wasting money :roll:. Sorry, but no matter how much FUD you hear about how 'fast' newer drives are compared to Raptors, it's pure BS. My older machine (A64 X2 4400+, 2GB DDR400, 6800GT) with a 74GB raptor loads everything in about half the time that my new machine does (C2D E6600, 2GB DDR2, 8800GTX) with 2x 750GB Seagates (not RAID'd as one is partitioned). I can't have a newer PC that isn't as fast as my other PC that cost half as much to build. I have a need for speed!

An' hey... with Vista.. I already have an 8800GTX... why not go even more bleeding edge? 😛 I originally wanted to get Vista with the 8800GTX since I was building a whole new machine (since I was going to upgrade in the future anyway... so why not just do it then and save the money... but Vista was delayed).

EDIT:

Originally posted by: us3rnotfound
Is it usually that easy?

I never even had to do that in my situation. When I built my new PC a bit ago, I purchased a copy of Windows MCE 2005 for my other PC (that was using XP Pro OEM) to use. I then migrated the copy of XP Pro to the new PC... so we're talking entirely different hardware. I activated it without any issues. Now, technically migrating an OEM license isn't 'right' to do, but I look at it as Microsoft did get an extra $120 out of me for a copy of MC 2005 when I could've just been a little :evil: and stole it 😛.

 

[ryan256]

Originally posted by: tagej
Anyone who would consider buying Vista should read this excellent review/analysis of Vista and the wonderful world of DRM.

Interesting.... hadn't read all of this before. But it just confirms what I've been speculating and gives me yet another reason not to upgrade.

 

[Double Trouble]

Originally posted by: ryan256

Originally posted by: tagej
Anyone who would consider buying Vista should read this excellent review/analysis of Vista and the wonderful world of DRM.

Interesting.... hadn't read all of this before. But it just confirms what I've been speculating and gives me yet another reason not to upgrade.

What I like about the article is that it's not just some crackpot out there ranting about how evil MS is blah blah blah, it's a well researched and documented piece that shows the absurdity of how far MS has gone with the DRM implementation. Basically, the object of Vista seems to have been to create as secure an environment for 'media content' as possible. Let spyware and malware do whatever they want, let credit cards and other personal info get stolen etc, that doesn't matter -- as long as not a single frame of protected media escapes everything is fine.

I'll stick with XP, thanks.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: ryan256
Interesting.... hadn't read all of this before. But it just confirms what I've been speculating and gives me yet another reason not to upgrade.

All that sounds like to me is a bunch of hogwash. They complain about having to waste a little bit of CPU resources on decoding. Complain that a HDCP-compliant LCD may cost a tiny bit more than a non-HDCP compliant one. Well, when you're spending at least $300 on an LCD.. $10 more (pure guesstimate figure, my LCDs were no more expensive than the non-HDCP ones) isn't much. Also, HDCP is (to my knowledge) required for viewing high-definition content... but why would I want to view that on my PC anyway? I have an XBOX 360 + HD-DVD Drive + HDTV for that.

 

[Double Trouble]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: ryan256
Interesting.... hadn't read all of this before. But it just confirms what I've been speculating and gives me yet another reason not to upgrade.

All that sounds like to me is a bunch of hogwash. They complain about having to waste a little bit of CPU resources on decoding. Complain that a HDCP-compliant LCD may cost a tiny bit more than a non-HDCP compliant one. Well, when you're spending at least $300 on an LCD.. $10 more (pure guesstimate figure, my LCDs were no more expensive than the non-HDCP ones) isn't much. Also, HDCP is (to my knowledge) required for viewing high-definition content... but why would I want to view that on my PC anyway? I have an XBOX 360 + HD-DVD Drive + HDTV for that.

Read the full piece before commenting. One of the points is that we're all paying for these "features" wether or not we use them, and we're all going to be negatively impacted in one way or another, regardless of how you use your PC.

Also, if I have to purchase bigger/faster/more powerful equipment to take advantage of some cool new features, that would be one thing. In this case, you need more powerful equipment not for the new features, but rather for all the paranoid-level DRM junk that Vista is infested with. The user experience is not the main driving force, DRM is.

 

[pontifex]

you gave up 1500 gb for 150 because its faster?

i can't believe it would be that much faster. do you have links to benchmarks or anything?

 

[eplebnista]

I am waiting for at least 3 years before I go to Vista. It took me 7 years to go to XP.

 

[slackerinabox]

Quick question - to Win Xp native apps run slower?