Vista DRM implementations

[archcommus]

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Reading this, I started wondering if pretty much ALL media activities are going to be different in Vista, not just HD video, due to new DRM implementations. Can we even guarantee that all MP3 files, for example, from our XP systems will play in Vista if the newly coded audio stack determines it as illegitimate and thus prevents it from physically playing?

Thoughts, please.

 

[angrynerdrock]

im sure there will be a hack/patch out to disable the protections in the future. Every time MS thinks they have a great idea, someone smarter makes something to bypass their efforts.

personally, i feel MS shouldnt be telling me what i can, or cannot play on my system. how will they know if my mp3 is stolen, or a legitamate rip from a cd i own?

 

[EagleKeeper]

You have the original "legacy" files. As the OP stated; what will happen with those.

Then what is going to happen if you "rip" from legitimate media that you own.
If the digital media has "protection" built in, then you may not be able make your own copy of it.

Uncle has stated that that type of coping is legit though.

 

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
You have the original "legacy" files. As the OP stated; what will happen with those.

Then what is going to happen if you "rip" from legitimate media that you own.
If the digital media has "protection" built in, then you may not be able make your own copy of it.

Uncle has stated that that type of coping is legit though.

Exactly. Picture all the teenage kids in the world complaining that their 100 billion CD collection doesn't play anymore on Daddy's new eMachine with Vista installed. I can't imagine this happening but it worries me.

 

[archcommus]

I hate how this OS will be coming out in almost half a year and I still don't even know if I want the thing.

 

[Nothinman]

personally, i feel MS shouldnt be telling me what i can, or cannot play on my system. how will they know if my mp3 is stolen, or a legitamate rip from a cd i own?

It's not MS it's the MPAA and RIAA, MS is just the enforcer since you're using their software. And as for MP3s, I doubt their playback will be affected since there is no way to tell if they're legal or not.

 

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

personally, i feel MS shouldnt be telling me what i can, or cannot play on my system. how will they know if my mp3 is stolen, or a legitamate rip from a cd i own?

It's not MS it's the MPAA and RIAA, MS is just the enforcer since you're using their software. And as for MP3s, I doubt their playback will be affected since there is no way to tell if they're legal or not.

Can you give me an example of how they'd use this new DRM protection built in to the new audio stack then? I'm just trying to visualize a real life situation this could affect.

 

[Nothinman]

Can you give me an example of how they'd use this new DRM protection built in to the new audio stack then? I'm just trying to visualize a real life situation this could affect.

I don't claim to have all of the details, infact I haven't been paying much attention at all since I don't really use Windows anymore. But it'll most likely only apply to WM(A|V), AAC (or whatever Apple's format is), etc just like now, since those formats support the required encryption.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: archcommus

Originally posted by: Nothinman

personally, i feel MS shouldnt be telling me what i can, or cannot play on my system. how will they know if my mp3 is stolen, or a legitamate rip from a cd i own?

It's not MS it's the MPAA and RIAA, MS is just the enforcer since you're using their software. And as for MP3s, I doubt their playback will be affected since there is no way to tell if they're legal or not.

Can you give me an example of how they'd use this new DRM protection built in to the new audio stack then? I'm just trying to visualize a real life situation this could affect.

Buy an audio file from Microsoft, be restricted by their DRM.

 

[gsellis]

The files and source has to have the switches on to flag it as DRM. Your current stuff does not. It should play fine.

And quit freaking blaming MS. As noted, this is MPAA and RIAA. Apple has to do the same thing. In fact, MS jumping on HD-DVD is part of this. Blu-Ray is more Draconian on the rights management (because the format is owned by Sony, an audio and video company - also this is part of the delays in Blu-Ray). The DVD Forum (HD-DVD) is advised by studio members, but not owned by a studio company.

Edit - I would love to see MS spank Sony hard over this rootkit BS they pulled.

 

[archcommus]

I'm not blaming MS at all, just inquiring about how this will affect music playback in Vista. But if it will be restricted to their own file types, I don't care too much.