Vista 64bit?

[Zelvek]

Does anyone know whether there are any driver issues for the 64 bit version of vista like there were with XP pro 64 bit? I would doubt it but thought I should check.

 

[Schadenfroh]

yes

 

[Zelvek]

how bad are they what would you guys suggest 32 bit or 64 bit?

 

[stash]

The driver situation for Vista x64 is much, much better than it was for XP x64. But there will still be issues.

 

[rxblitzrx]

What's the benefit of running Vista 64bit vs 32bit?

 

[Zelvek]

Well 64 bit will be able to run 64 bit apps when they come out so I wont have to buy a new version in the future. But I want to be sure that I wont suffer from driver issues like the issues win xp 64 had before I decide which to buy.

 

[insomnio]

As long as you dont have some weird devices, drivers shouldnt be a big deal. Granted, some of the 64 bit Vista drivers are still in beta, but they still work fairly well.

 

[BroadbandGamer]

I was running Vista 64-Bit RC1 without any problems. However, I'm still waiting for nForce4 and 8800 series Vista drivers. NVIDIA seems to have their head up their @$$ at the moment.

It's time for everyone to move on to 64-Bit. We've got the hardware and it's time we started using it.

 

[videopho]

Originally posted by: BroadbandGamer
I was running Vista 64-Bit RC1 without any problems. However, I'm still waiting for nForce4 and 8800 series Vista drivers. NVIDIA seems to have their head up their @$$ at the moment.

It's time for everyone to move on to 64-Bit. We've got the hardware and it's time we started using it.

2nd

x64 user over a year and happy.
Why runs Kmart tires on a Ferari?

 

[Nothinman]

It's time for everyone to move on to 64-Bit. We've got the hardware and it's time we started using it.

But why? There's very few compelling arguments for 64-bit software and there's a huge list of arguments against it.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

It's time for everyone to move on to 64-Bit. We've got the hardware and it's time we started using it.

But why? There's very few compelling arguments for 64-bit software and there's a huge list of arguments against it.

I agree with you. I would switch to 64 bit in the future when it becomes common to have 16 gigs of memory, not now.

 

[Nothinman]

I agree with you. I would switch to 64 bit in the future when it becomes common to have 16 gigs of memory, not now.

Well you can still use 16GB in a 32-bit system now with PAE, it's a little bit slower and no single process can address all of the memory but it works.

 

[Mem]

Using Vistax64 bit right now,I'm not going back to 32 bit ,feels faster to me then XP,driver wise I had drivers for 99% of my hardware only Leadtek usb dtv tuner was not available, but I expect that soon being a pretty new product.

Very smooth so far and all my 32 bit software works fine,only had one 16 bit software graphics/printing program which obviously does not work ,but I purchased a newer version of that which was 32 bit and cheap $20 so that was an easy fix.

Just need that USB driver now from Leadtek and I'm 100% happy.

 

[FireChicken]

So is it true that with 64 bit vista we will not be able to use apps like riva tuner and coolbits to tweak nvidia forceware drivers. How will we overclock our video card with 64 bit vista???

 

[Nothinman]

So is it true that with 64 bit vista we will not be able to use apps like riva tuner and coolbits to tweak nvidia forceware drivers. How will we overclock our video card with 64 bit vista???

Depends on how those apps talked to the driver but I wouldn't get my hopes up. Whoever released them will probably have to release 64-bit versions of them.

 

[tatteredpotato]

Why switch to 64 bit? Well 64 bit won't have an advantage until there are 64 bit app, there won't be 64 bit apps until people run a 64 bit OS, so do us all a favor an convert now.

 

[Nothinman]

Why switch to 64 bit? Well 64 bit won't have an advantage until there are 64 bit app, there won't be 64 bit apps until people run a 64 bit OS, so do us all a favor an convert now.

I've been using a 64-bit OS since I got this system and virtually all of my apps are 64-bit already.

 

[Swampthing]

i'd really like to run 64bit as well since alot of the major game developers are behind 64bit and microsofts games for windows program requires it, but i'm really concerned the 64 bit drivers are gonna take a backseat in development priority to the 32bit versions. Which really doesn't make sense since most new vista machines are likely shipping with 64 bit processors. Is dell shipping with the 64 or 32 bit version installed?

I just really hate to have to reformat when 64bit becomes more mainstream, it'd be nice to just do it now, but after running 64bit xp for awhile it was more headache than it was worth.

 

[StevenYoo]

i'm currently using 32-bit XP Pro on a Core 2 Duo (which is 64bit)

can i upgrade to a 64-bit Vista using the upgrade CD?

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: StevenYoo
i'm currently using 32-bit XP Pro on a Core 2 Duo (which is 64bit)

can i upgrade to a 64-bit Vista using the upgrade CD?

Yes. I wouldn't uninstall/format, because people here are still verifying whether you can do a clean install and just pop in the existing disc.

MS as well as News Sources are giving multiple answers to that question.

-Kevin

 

[StevenYoo]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: StevenYoo
i'm currently using 32-bit XP Pro on a Core 2 Duo (which is 64bit)

can i upgrade to a 64-bit Vista using the upgrade CD?

Yes. I wouldn't uninstall/format, because people here are still verifying whether you can do a clean install and just pop in the existing disc.

MS as well as News Sources are giving multiple answers to that question.

-Kevin

according to MS, once you pop in the upgrade CD (while in windows XP), you have the option of doing a clean install or an in-place upgrade.

AFAIK, the clean install just doesn't apply to clean, blank hard drives.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: StevenYoo

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: StevenYoo
i'm currently using 32-bit XP Pro on a Core 2 Duo (which is 64bit)

can i upgrade to a 64-bit Vista using the upgrade CD?

Yes. I wouldn't uninstall/format, because people here are still verifying whether you can do a clean install and just pop in the existing disc.

MS as well as News Sources are giving multiple answers to that question.

-Kevin

according to MS, once you pop in the upgrade CD (while in windows XP), you have the option of doing a clean install or an in-place upgrade.

AFAIK, the clean install just doesn't apply to clean, blank hard drives.

I see. Well then if you already have XP installed then disregard me advice

 

[EricMartello]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

It's time for everyone to move on to 64-Bit. We've got the hardware and it's time we started using it.

But why? There's very few compelling arguments for 64-bit software and there's a huge list of arguments against it.

I'd be interested in seeing these compelling arguments against 64-bit software. Do you also have anything to dispute the necessity of 32-bit apps, because I'm all about less is more. Hell, if I was calling the shots we'd run 2-bit systems, the ultimate in KISS design.

 

[Nothinman]

I'd be interested in seeing these compelling arguments against 64-bit software

The main one being that you need to have the 32-bit version of each library installed, so you essentially need 2 copies of everything installed. And then 64-bit processes can't load 32-bit binaries so you need to run the 32-bit version. The main example is the flash plugin, you need a 32-bit browser to use it since Adobe hasn't releasead a 64-bit versions yet.

Do you also have anything to dispute the necessity of 32-bit apps, because I'm all about less is more. Hell, if I was calling the shots we'd run 2-bit systems, the ultimate in KISS design.

Please. If you don't actually unstand how VM works it would be nice if you would refrain from posting.

 

[EricMartello]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

I'd be interested in seeing these compelling arguments against 64-bit software

The main one being that you need to have the 32-bit version of each library installed, so you essentially need 2 copies of everything installed. And then 64-bit processes can't load 32-bit binaries so you need to run the 32-bit version. The main example is the flash plugin, you need a 32-bit browser to use it since Adobe hasn't releasead a 64-bit versions yet.

Isn't this a result of maintaining backward compatibility with older 32-bit software? For any software that is 64-bit (and if you bother to use a 64-bit OS you might as well stick with 64-bit software) then this isn't really a problem.

Do you also have anything to dispute the necessity of 32-bit apps, because I'm all about less is more. Hell, if I was calling the shots we'd run 2-bit systems, the ultimate in KISS design.

Please. If you don't actually unstand how VM works it would be nice if you would refrain from posting.

So you really do think we should run 2-bit systems, and perhaps reduce CPU core instruction sets to...say 10?