Virginia vintners have a taste of a Republican police state

PJABBER

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I admit that I have the habit of drink. It really doesn't matter what it is, sake, beer, wine, whiskey, gouqi jiu, kumis, ginger beer, akvavit, scotch, bourbon, eau de vie, port, well, you get the idea. I like to sample all of them. And generally prefer to try them at their point of origin, which makes for some good times.

As a matter of fact, I have in front of me a small glass of one of the bottles I brought back from the region I was resident, the Chemin des Olivettes, Coteaux Du Languedoc, 2011 vintage. Very inexpensive but very nice. Ah, the memories.

Before anyone jumps to any conclusions, I am not an alcoholic. I can stop at any time. And I often have. I just can't think of any particularly good reason to stop for long.

One particular indulgence that I enjoy is just getting into my car and driving to a brewery or a winery to meet the owners and indulge in a glass or two.

I live in Europe and Asia on and off and that has offered up quite a variety of experiences. Each place has its own rules and quirks, some for the better, others not so much for having a bit of fun.

The Washington, DC area is actually surrounded with wineries, albeit of mixed character and decidedly mixed quality, but I continue to venture to them on the occasional weekend.

I am planning a bit of an excursion this weekend and in my research found that I live quite close to a fascist Virginia county by the name of Fauquier.

Virginia, almost a model Republican governed State that has produced budget surpluses and fairly acceptable grapes has an enclave of fascism? Maryland I can believe, but tell me this isn't so!

Fact is, labels don't mean a thing, it is the addictive quality of power, more powerful than demon drink, that we must watch out for. It always comes in a form that is enticingly altruistic, for our own good. Its face, at least in the beginning, is benign.

The article below captures the essence of what happens when someone, anyone takes power and that power keeps creeping up the scale until we reach a point of wondering where our country/state/county/city/town went.

Fear the zoning administrator before all else, for this apparently is the position that exerts the awful power of statism, first in nearby Fauquier County, Virginia and then, quite possibly, the place you call home!

Virginia vintners taste the police state

August 12, 2012

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While the Obama administration is busy eviscerating private property rights at the federal level, Republican-controlled Fauquier County, Va., has decided to follow suit in its own way. Fauquier's Board of Supervisors recently passed a winery ordinance that tramples private property rights and some fundamental civil liberties.

The county, which is located about an hour west of Washington, calls itself an agricultural community. Its scenic, sprawling farmlands have become home to a growing number of wineries. Vintners have discovered that Fauquier's climate and rich soil are ideal for growing grapes.

Most of the wineries are mom and pop operations. Some, though, have been more creative in marketing, employing more people, and generating revenue. The county thinks such success must be punished.

At the center of all this is the county zoning administrator, a bureaucratic czar named Kimberley Johnson, whose bullying and heavy-handed enforcement tactics have resulted in calls for her dismissal by county farmers and residents. Johnson was recently the subject of a citizen-farmer "pitchfork protest" in a matter in which she fined one farmer for conducting a pumpkin carving and a birthday party for eight little girls without the proper permit.

The winery ordinance is Obama-esque, passed under the pretext that it protects the health, safety and welfare of the public. It forces wineries to close at 6 p.m. and prohibits sale of food -- something that goes quite safely with a taste of wine -- unless the wineries obtain special permits from the zoning administrator.

The ordinance lists prohibited winery activities such as hot air balloon rides, farmers' markets, and mini-golf, which assuredly threaten the health, safety and welfare of the public, right?

Among the prohibited activities, the ordinance includes anything else determined by the zoning administrator "to be similar in nature or in impact to" the listed activities. That's the equivalent allowing police officers to ticket drivers for nearly anything they wish.

The winery ordinance comes with potential criminal penalties, yet it has weak standards of evidence and due process to protect the innocent. It's a civil liberties and property rights nightmare on its face. Chicago politics and even dictatorships mask their tyrannical abuses of law better than this.

Fauquier gave its zoning czar the same type of unlimited discretion to decide whether to issue special permits to stay open past 6 p.m., to host events, and to determine entry road surface conditions. This gives the zoning administrator unfettered control over the very existence of wineries, and creates conditions under which vintners must fear her every next move.

Perhaps the most offensive provision of the ordinance authorizes "private personal gatherings" at wineries. Someone obviously forgot to tell Fauquier officials that in America, we don't need government permission for private personal gatherings on our own property.

Yet even in their contempt for the freedom of assembly and private property rights, Fauquier officials limited the definition of "private personal gathering" to owners who reside at or adjacent to their wineries, and who do not market their wine at such gatherings. This means no winery signs -- no bottle labels, even, when owners hold private personal gatherings on their property, because that's marketing.

The Fauquier ordinance clearly violates Virginia's Right to Farm Act, which guarantees agriculture activities of growing and selling. No county may use ordinances to inhibit these rights.

Vintners are challenging the Fauquier ordinance in courts and are seeking legislative relief in Richmond. Perhaps, though, they and their patrons should form a Wine Party, and dispel the Fauquier government officials responsible for this lawbreaking and these trespasses on private rights.

Mark J. Fitzgibbons is president of corporate and legal affairs for the American Targeted Advertising, Inc. and co-author with Richard Viguerie of “The Law That Governs Government: Reclaiming The Constitution From Usurpers And Society's Biggest Lawbreaker.”
 

MrColin

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Scathing article, and deservedly so. As a freedom and beverage loving American I feel like driving up there to spit in Ms. Johnson's face myself. I kind of feel a moral obligation to do so in fact.

No doubt she's taking bribes, and this is more damaging than terrorism IMHO.

In Wisconsin, there was a rider on the last budget (for no justifiable reason) prohibiting the small and micro breweries from setting up distribution operations, thus forcing them to play with the mega-swill brewers (ie Miller) if they want to sell off site. Treason!
 

PokerGuy

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I don't live there or know much detail, but if the article is right, that's disgusting. Just goes to show you, more government power and control is always a bad thing, no matter which party it is.
 

Pr0d1gy

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I don't live there or know much detail, but if the article is right, that's disgusting. Just goes to show you, more government power and control is always a bad thing, no matter which party it is.

And the problem is the party that is supposed to be against more government keeps making it bigger and more invasive each decade. That is one of the top reasons why I won't vote Republican anymore.
 

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Virginia vintners have a taste of a Republican police state

I am planning a bit of an excursion this weekend and in my research found that I live quite close to a fascist Virginia county by the name of Fauquier.

Virginia, almost a model Republican governed State that has produced budget surpluses and fairly acceptable grapes has an enclave of fascism? Maryland I can believe, but tell me this isn't so!

The article below captures the essence of what happens when someone, anyone takes power and that power keeps creeping up the scale until we reach a point of wondering where our country/state/county/city/town went.

Fear the zoning administrator before all else, for this apparently is the position that exerts the awful power of statism, first in nearby Fauquier County, Virginia and then, quite possibly, the place you call home!

Awesome

Americans deserve this especially Republicans doing it to themselves :thumbsup:
 

dank69

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Nice that while criticizing this Republican county he still shoehorns in a couple of jabs at Obama. :rolleyes:

I wasn't aware that Obama was 'eviscerating private property rights.' I wonder if someone could clue me in to what the fuck he is talking about with that line. :hmm:
 

Mursilis

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Virginia, almost a model Republican governed State that has produced budget surpluses and fairly acceptable grapes has an enclave of fascism? Maryland I can believe, but tell me this isn't so!

Just because a state leans one way or the other doesn't mean each locality reflects that. Parts (most of?) NoVa are fairly solidly Democratic. Fauquier is a border county to the NoVa region, so I went ahead and looked up the parties of the 5-member Board of Supervisors for the County. The count was 4 GOPers, and an Independent. So much for the small gov't party!
 

Pr0d1gy

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Nice that while criticizing this Republican county he still shoehorns in a couple of jabs at Obama. :rolleyes:

I wasn't aware that Obama was 'eviscerating private property rights.' I wonder if someone could clue me in to what the fuck he is talking about with that line. :hmm:

PFLABBER doesn't even know what he is talking about, why should you? He's just another corporate/GOP shill sent to troll message boards on behalf of his facist masters.
 

PokerGuy

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And the problem is the party that is supposed to be against more government keeps making it bigger and more invasive each decade. That is one of the top reasons why I won't vote Republican anymore.

Correction, both parties make it bigger and more invasive. One pretends to be for smaller government yet often makes it bigger, the other openly flouts its love for the nanny state and continuously strives to make it bigger. I'll go with option A.
 

dank69

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Correction, both parties make it bigger and more invasive. One pretends to be for smaller government yet often makes it bigger, the other openly flouts its love for the nanny state and continuously strives to make it bigger. I'll go with option A.
I'm not surprised you favor dishonesty over honesty. :thumbsup:
 

Pr0d1gy

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Correction, both parties make it bigger and more invasive. One pretends to be for smaller government yet often makes it bigger, the other openly flouts its love for the nanny state and continuously strives to make it bigger. I'll go with option A.

You'd rather be lied to? Nanny state is a liberal thing, huh? Remember the Patriot Act? "Homeland Security"?




yeah.....mmmmm hmmm.
 

jackstar7

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Class war rages on. Mark it another loss for the under*class.



*'Under' being anything below the upper.
 

HomerJS

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Wow, a thread from PJABBER that's critical of Republicans. Such a rarity.

Even though the article is critical of Republicans they still tried to tie blame to the President calling it Obama-esque.

Forcing an establishment serving alcohol to close at 6pm is an example of a blue law with is a conservative hammer attempting to force morailty.
 

PJABBER

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Haven't had much time to follow up on my OP, but this morning I started off with reading a few emails from some friends that live in that area. One offered up a link to the ordinance that authorizes the zoning administrator to make what seems, on the face of it, to be outrageous restrictions on the use of private property and the conduct of business -

THE FAUQUIER COUNTY FARM WINERY ORDINANCE

Take such rules and regulations, add state and federal laws and regulations and multiply the problem a dozenfold.

When government at any level defines and limits to such an extent, be it Republican or Democrat, you no longer have the opportunity to succeed, you only labor along with Sisyphus.

There really are two issues - the first is that the regulatory burden truly has become extreme, the second is that it seems no government is willing to limit itself unless forced to do so.

We have kids prohibited from selling lemonade, farmers from selling raw milk, wineries unable to throw their kids birthday parties.

Government at all levels has gotten in the way and the only way out is to vote those who hold such views out of office and insist the next bunch take the necessary steps to reverse course.

I know my liberal friends here praise the nanny statism of abominations such as Obamacare. They mock anyone who sees those three thousand pages of law with tens of thousands of pages of the regulations that follow and cringes.

You wonder why the economy is not booming. You wonder why so many doctors plan to leave their life long practices. You wonder why businesses aren't investing, aren't hiring. You wonder why hyper regulated Europe is failing and why those places with minimal government burdening do well.

The answer, my friends, is simple to see, look in your own backyards.
 
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Gunslinger08

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This is a pretty stupid decision. I don't understand how anyone, Republican or Democrat, could support this.

BTW, it's pronounced Fock-year.
 

Thump553

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I was only able to grind halfway through the article-their anti-Obama bias is highly annoying and very misleading, but it has been my experience in real life, especially dealing with local governments, that the so-called conservatives tend to be far more controlling and dictatorial in their practices. Admittedly the typcial big city does tend to bury you in red tape but I don't think that is a function of liberablism or conservatism, jut the interia of bureuacracy (where you rarely get into trouble for saying no).

In my view nearly all so-called conservatives in local government are mostly concerned with things running the way they want them them to, and heaven help any member of the public that tries to do things differently. The pumpkin craving party story in the article is a prime example.
 

werepossum

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Correction, both parties make it bigger and more invasive. One pretends to be for smaller government yet often makes it bigger, the other openly flouts its love for the nanny state and continuously strives to make it bigger. I'll go with option A.
Agreed, but it's worth pointing out that the lesser evil will still kick your dog and pinch your baby.

Gary Johnson, baby.
 

Jaskalas

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And here's another Conservative who agrees with PJABBER on this issue.

And another.

The Republicans exampled in the OP are a microcosm of Romney and big-gov Neocon GOP.
 
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