Virginia Tech alerts of possible gun shots on campus

[Gamingphreek]

well, the school needs some serious PR repair after this. No way would any high achiever want to go to that school now. Hopefully more than just PR changes (better security, etc).

Better security?! You have no idea what happened there. Based on what we all know, this could have happened at any college campus.

Not only that, I seriously doubt this greatly impacts anyone's decision to go there, just like right after 4/16.

 

[Triumph]

well, the school needs some serious PR repair after this. No way would any high achiever want to go to that school now. Hopefully more than just PR changes (better security, etc).

An intelligent person would understand that this has nothing to do with the academics, or safety of the campus. VT has just been rolling snake eyes lately.

 

[roguerower]

well, the school needs some serious PR repair after this. No way would any high achiever want to go to that school now. Hopefully more than just PR changes (better security, etc).

Don't talk about things you know nothing about. Like phreek said, this could have happened anywhere else and the same thing would have happened.

Enrollment didn't suffer, academic programs didn't suffer, life on campus didn't suffer. Security and protocol changed but did not have a direct impact on students.

 

[rcpratt]

well, the school needs some serious PR repair after this. No way would any high achiever want to go to that school now. Hopefully more than just PR changes (better security, etc).

That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

 

[TakeNoPrisoners]

But he's correct. How are people being shot where guns are prohibited?

Gun bans do nothing at all but remove firearms from the hands of lawful citizens.

Since murder is not lawful then there is nothing stopping somebody from bringing a gun on campus once they pass that threshold. A gun charge is nothing compared to a murder charge.

 

[gophins72]

That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

you can add me to your ignore list as i am adding you to mine

 

[her209]

Gun bans do nothing at all but remove firearms from the hands of lawful citizens.

Since murder is not lawful then there is nothing stopping somebody from bringing a gun on campus once they pass that threshold. A gun charge is nothing compared to a murder charge.

Should people be allowed to bring guns on a plane too then?

 

[gophins72]

I can see this is a passionate topic. So I will leave it at this. Whether it is their fault or not, they have a PR problem now, would you want to send your kids to VA Tech after several gun incidents over the past several years?

It is in their best interest to do something and make it look like they are doing something.

Anyways, enjoy the discussions.

 

[shortylickens]

Came in to stir the pot again, huh?

 

[Triumph]

I can see this is a passionate topic. So I will leave it at this. Whether it is their fault or not, they have a PR problem now, would you want to send your kids to VA Tech after several gun incidents over the past several years?

If I am a fool who makes decisions based on knee-jerk reactions, emotionally charged arguments, and lack of logical thought, then yes, I might hesitate to send my kids to VPI.

 

[roguerower]

I can see this is a passionate topic. So I will leave it at this. Whether it is their fault or not, they have a PR problem now, would you want to send your kids to VA Tech after several gun incidents over the past several years?

It is in their best interest to do something and make it look like they are doing something.

Anyways, enjoy the discussions.

Just couldn't resist, could you?

 

[rcpratt]

Ignore it.

 

[CZroe]

Should people be allowed to bring guns on a plane too then?

I guaran-damn-tee you that the notable events of 9-11-2001 would not have happened if they were and the criminals still used box-cutters. If they were allowed, then the terrorists would have had them too, of course, and the headline would be something along the lines of "Terrorist gunfire erupts on multiple flights!" with editorials against allowing guns on flights written by people blissfully unaware of what would have happened without them.

FWIW, I have no gun nor have I considered purchasing one.

 

[Possessed Freak]

Should people be allowed to bring guns on a plane too then?

I don't think they should allow guns, but I think they should REQUIRE everyone have access to a melee weapon. 2-5 against 100 in a melee means NOBODY is going to take over the plane.

 

[Linflas]

I guaran-damn-tee you that the notable events of 9-11-2001 would not have happened if they were and the criminals still used box-cutters. If they were allowed, then the terrorists would have had them too, of course, and the headline would be something along the lines of "Terrorist gunfire erupts on multiple flights!" with editorials against allowing guns on flights written by people blissfully unaware of what would have happened without them.

FWIW, I have no gun nor have I considered purchasing one.

The problem I have with that analysis is that 9/11 happened not because of the weapons or lack of weapons, it was the thinking that allowed it to take place. Given the identical circumstances today armed with the knowledge of 9/11 men with box cutters would not be successful in taking an aircraft full of passengers and flying it into a building. Flight 93 is tragic proof that once the passengers realized the hijacking game had fundamentally changed passenger response did as well.

 

[CZroe]

The problem I have with that analysis is that 9/11 happened not because of the weapons or lack of weapons, it was the thinking that allowed it to take place. Given the identical circumstances today armed with the knowledge of 9/11 men with box cutters would not be successful in taking an aircraft full of passengers and flying it into a building. Flight 93 is tragic proof that once the passengers realized the hijacking game had fundamentally changed passenger response did as well.

The disparity of gun vs. box-cutter would have prompted action without that knowledge, though I am sure they would have had more than box-cutters if guns were allowed.