JSt0rm
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Its true. We accept a certain number of innocents die every year. That how it is in 'murica.
Its true. We accept a certain number of innocents die every year. That how it is in 'murica.
What a terrible tragedy...
When things like this happen much attention is drawn to any possible social context and any explanation for how society at large has failed. In this case the murderer has a history of alleging racism and discrimination. I expect that we'll see a fair number of people claim that racism he experienced was a major contributor to his actions. I expect that we'll also see a fair number of people on the other side claim that a climate of racial tension and heavy suggestion of oppression was a major contributor to his actions. I'm not seeing too much of this here (that's good), but in some other places like the comments on the Gawker article it seems all people are talking about the color of his skin and what role that played in the shooting. I'm hoping that people won't be too quick to jump to conclusions and consider the role his personal circumstances and mental health could have played in his behaviors.
Which is why I'm hoping his manifesto will be released, assuming he really wrote it.
When things like this happen much attention is drawn to any possible social context and any explanation for how society at large has failed. In this case the murderer has a history of alleging racism and discrimination. I expect that we'll see a fair number of people claim that racism he experienced was a major contributor to his actions. I expect that we'll also see a fair number of people on the other side claim that a climate of racial tension and heavy suggestion of oppression was a major contributor to his actions. I'm not seeing too much of this here (that's good), but in some other places like the comments on the Gawker article it seems all people are talking about the color of his skin and what role that played in the shooting. I'm hoping that people won't be too quick to jump to conclusions and consider the role his personal circumstances and mental health could have played in his behaviors.
Which is why I'm hoping his manifesto will be released, assuming he really wrote it.
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bshole
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This is eerily similar to that black cop a few years ago that wrote a manifesto complaining of racism and started killing other cops.
BoomerD
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Of course...Washington will NOT let a tragedy go un-exploited...
http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-presses-congress-act-gun-control-tv-171915690.html
Instead of a bunch of NEW gun laws...how about fucking enforcing the myriad of gun laws already on the books?
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http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-presses-congress-act-gun-control-tv-171915690.html
Instead of a bunch of NEW gun laws...how about fucking enforcing the myriad of gun laws already on the books?
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Atomic Playboy
Lifer
- Feb 6, 2007
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Who cares about a psychopath's manifesto? You lose any sympathy you could possibly garnish when you start murdering innocent people in cold blood. There's literally no justification in the world for it.
kage69
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- Jul 17, 2003
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Newell Steamer
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Well, we Liberals failed to get the CBDers into concentration camps, so, Plan B is underway.
chubbyfatazn
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I'm not looking for sympathy, justification, or absolution. I'm looking for context and increased understanding. That has nothing to do with blame. Knowing how a person like this thinks could help others identify potential risks in others. And it can help people see that not everything is purely about social conditioning and that not every reaction should be about social reform.
There is an unfortunate side effect of rewarding this guy by giving him attention, which could be a contributor in enabling these kinds of actions. But when they're blown up by the media anyway I don't think releasing the manifesto does much worse, especially when people tend to almost universally denounce their contents.
Newell Steamer
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Why would they do that?
I always love to hear what the most worthless people have to say about things, it amuses me.
Londo_Jowo
Lifer
Jaskalas
Lifer
- Jun 23, 2004
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Was text that Foxnews put up, so I would NOT call it confirmed just yet. Looking around to see if anyone else runs that piece of info.
I was going to ask how hard it is to etch names on bullets but apparently there are websites that will actually do it for you, for jewelry purposes.
Here's another source:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/shooting-alleged-gunman-details-grievances-suicide-notes/story?id=33336339
There's a bunch of other unexpected things revealed. Apparently he's gay too. And felt sexually harassed at work as well as feeling discriminated against for being black. He says both black men and white women at work targeted him (don't know if the black women left him alone or if there just weren't any). He was motivated by the South Carolina shooting and more or less agreed to engage in a race war. And he professes admiration for various mass shooters. Oh, and God told him to do it.
This is just a massive clusterfuck. Media and social media is going to meltdown over this.
This is just a massive clusterfuck. Media and social media is going to meltdown over this.
If guns are at fault here then so are the media. Are there going to be calls for the media to stop reporting these kinds of incidents? I hope not. That would be fucking retarded. Just as retarded as those trying yet again to blame guns. Why not look at people's mental issues instead of blaming inanimate objects?
Disturb man shoots two then kills self -- film at eleven!
Sounds like he acquired the gun legally, but let's see what the investigation turns up.
We don't do a very good job of stopping deranged people from getting a hold of deadly weapons.
From what I've read about his motives there isn't much logic to it at all. He was upset about the Charleston shooting but appears to have approved of the Columbine and Virginia Tech shootings and singled out the Tech shooter with praise for doubling the kills of the Columbine shooters. I'm not sure but there may well be a race component to his motives.
Brian
Sounds like he acquired the gun legally, but let's see what the investigation turns up.
We don't do a very good job of stopping deranged people from getting a hold of deadly weapons.
From what I've read about his motives there isn't much logic to it at all. He was upset about the Charleston shooting but appears to have approved of the Columbine and Virginia Tech shootings and singled out the Tech shooter with praise for doubling the kills of the Columbine shooters. I'm not sure but there may well be a race component to his motives.
Brian
sunzt
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Are you serious? It's pretty clear that its the result from long-term bullying (from everyone white or black) due to his sexual orientation and race.
It doesn't mean he was "mentally ill" to start with, but long-term, sustained bullying could very well have messed up his life and mind. I blame society and culture for that.
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I don't agree that is "pretty clear" in any form or fashion. It's clear he claimed to have been bullied, but given that he was so obviously anti-social and paranoid, I would consider it just as likely that he was a thin-skinned serial complainant who was not bullied in any way, or at least not to anything like the extent he claimed. I certainly don't subscribe to the notion that because a spree killer claims something happened, we should assume it to be true. Remember this fruitcake (his hero), for example? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7-2ura5Nbs How about this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQUW3Km01BM&bpctr=1440620767
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