violence, it's not racist when it's against white people

[master_shake_]

A Calgary indigenous woman who knocked out a Caucasian woman’s tooth while yelling “I hate white people,” didn’t commit a racially motivated crime, a judge says.
Provincial court Judge Harry Van Harten, in a written decision, said Tamara Crowchief’s motivation for striking Lydia White was not related to racial bias.
Crown prosecutor Karuna Ramakrishnan, who had sought a sentence of 12 to 15 months, argued Crowchief’s unprovoked attack last Nov. 1, amounted to a hate crime.
But Van Harten agreed with defence counsel Adriano Iovinelli that there was insufficient evidence to establish Crowchief attacked White because of the colour of her skin.

http://calgaryherald.com/news/crime...te-woman-but-its-not-a-hate-crime-judge-rules

 

[Victorian Gray]

"Van Harten agreed with Iovinelli the more than six months Crowchief had spent behind bars, which he equated to a 9 1/2-month sentence, was sufficient jail time for Crowchief.

He placed the city woman on 12 months probation and ordered her to get psychological and psychiatric counselling as well as counselling for substance abuse.

She must also abstain from consuming intoxicating substances and is prohibited from going to any business whose principal sale is alcohol."

And you think the problem is that she didn't get charged with a hate crime?

 

[buckshot24]

You guys have "hate crimes" up there?

 

[glenn1]

"Van Harten agreed with Iovinelli the more than six months Crowchief had spent behind bars, which he equated to a 9 1/2-month sentence, was sufficient jail time for Crowchief.

He placed the city woman on 12 months probation and ordered her to get psychological and psychiatric counselling as well as counselling for substance abuse.

She must also abstain from consuming intoxicating substances and is prohibited from going to any business whose principal sale is alcohol."

And you think the problem is that she didn't get charged with a hate crime?

Hate crime laws are stupid but if you're going to ignore them unless the "correct" type of person commits said crime they are worse than worthless and onto straight kangaroo court justice.

 

[master_shake_]

"Van Harten agreed with Iovinelli the more than six months Crowchief had spent behind bars, which he equated to a 9 1/2-month sentence, was sufficient jail time for Crowchief.

He placed the city woman on 12 months probation and ordered her to get psychological and psychiatric counselling as well as counselling for substance abuse.

She must also abstain from consuming intoxicating substances and is prohibited from going to any business whose principal sale is alcohol."

And you think the problem is that she didn't get charged with a hate crime?

it was a hate crime.

she said "i hate white people" then knocked a girls tooth out.

if i knocked a black guys tooth out after saying i hate black people i would be charged with a hate crime.\

You guys have "hate crimes" up there?

only if you're white.

 

[buckshot24]

Hate crime laws are stupid but if you're going to ignore them unless the "correct" type of person commits said crime they are worse than worthless and onto straight kangaroo court justice.

I think there might be a place for them where a black person couldn't get a fair local trial in certain southern communities.

 

[michal1980]

"Van Harten agreed with Iovinelli the more than six months Crowchief had spent behind bars, which he equated to a 9 1/2-month sentence, was sufficient jail time for Crowchief.

He placed the city woman on 12 months probation and ordered her to get psychological and psychiatric counselling as well as counselling for substance abuse.

She must also abstain from consuming intoxicating substances and is prohibited from going to any business whose principal sale is alcohol."

And you think the problem is that she didn't get charged with a hate crime?

if a white person attacks a black person because they are black is it a hate crime?


PS why is it that you always defend thugs?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Hate crime laws are stupid but if you're going to ignore them unless the "correct" type of person commits said crime they are worse than worthless and onto straight kangaroo court justice.

I see that you have a reading comprehension issue. There are remedial courses that can help you with that problem.

 

[Victorian Gray]

it was a hate crime.

she said "i hate white people" then knocked a girls tooth out.

if i knocked a black guys tooth out after saying i hate black people i would be charged with a hate crime.\

Yes, we white Canadians are so very hard done by. Fucking racist drunk Indians.

 

[Victorian Gray]

if a white person attacks a black person because they are black is it a hate crime?


PS why is it that you always defend thugs?

Who is it that you think I'm defending?

 

[master_shake_]

Yes, we white Canadians are so very hard done by. Fucking racist drunk Indians.

well she was racist and drunk.

so i guess you should put away your broad brush and focus on just this one indian.

 

[Victorian Gray]

well she was racist and drunk.

so i guess you should put away your broad brush and focus on just this one indian.

All you're showing is that you don't understand what racism is or what constitutes a hate crime in Canada.

But hey, enjoy your anger.

 

[MajinCry]

Wait, Indian? She's a Native American, ain't she? Indians come from a completely different place.

And ya seem to be having a hard time 'ere, Shakers. Victor's arguing that it's an issue of inebriated violence, as was ruled, and not a racially motivated hate crime. In other words, 'tis the liquor talking.

 

[master_shake_]

All you're showing is that you don't understand what racism is or what constitutes a hate crime in Canada.

But hey, enjoy your anger.

The Criminal Code of Canada says a hate crime is committed to intimidate, harm or terrify not only a person, but an entire group of people to which the victim belongs. The victims are targeted for who they are, not because of anything they have done.

nope no idea...

thank goodness these things are published.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/what-is-a-hate-crime-1.1011612

yep according to the CCC this is a hate crime.

what else you got?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Wait, Indian? She's a Native American, ain't she? Indians come from a completely different place.

And ya seem to be having a hard time 'ere, Shakers. Victor's arguing that it's an issue of inebriated violence, as was ruled, and not a racially motivated hate crime. In other words, 'tis the liquor talking.

Well, the liquor and most likely, a life of being treated like shit by society at large.

 

[Victorian Gray]

nope no idea...

thank goodness these things are published.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/what-is-a-hate-crime-1.1011612

yep according to the CCC this is a hate crime.

what else you got?

Waste of time. Have a nice day.

 

[MajinCry]

Well, the liquor and most likely, a life of being treated like shit by society at large.

Oh no, you can't say that! Even though they suffer more rape, domestic violence and human trafficking than other nationalities in the American continent, they get casinos! And welfare!

Sure, the casinos are run down and don't make any money, and the welfare they receive doesn't even bring them up past the extreme poverty line, but still!

Aye, Native Americans have it rough. Hell, those reservation school rape dungeons only ended in the mid 90s.

 

[umbrella39]

Yet another poor persecuted white folks thread? That cross is getting awfully crowded...

 

[master_shake_]

Oh no, you can't say that! Even though they suffer more rape, domestic violence and human trafficking than other nationalities in the American continent, they get casinos! And welfare!

Sure, the casinos are run down and don't make any money, and the welfare they receive doesn't even bring them up past the extreme poverty line, but still!

Aye, Native Americans have it rough. Hell, those reservation school rape dungeons only ended in the mid 90s.

i think you may be confusing canada for the us.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Oh no, you can't say that! Even though they suffer more rape, domestic violence and human trafficking than other nationalities in the American continent, they get casinos! And welfare!

Sure, the casinos are run down and don't make any money, and the welfare they receive doesn't even bring them up past the extreme poverty line, but still!

Aye, Native Americans have it rough. Hell, those reservation school rape dungeons only ended in the mid 90s.

I've known/do know a number of survivors of the residential school system. What you've read? It was worse.

 

[MajinCry]

i think you may be confusing canada for the us.

Don't you worry, the shit they've suffered extends across the border. Native Americans were spread all o'er the continent, and consequently, so was the rape, the slaughter, the sex slavery and the genocide.

And by the looks of it, they're never going to be able to recover. The racism is so ingrained against 'em.

I've known/do know a number of survivors of the residential school system. What you've read? It was worse.

I read the Amnesty USA article covering it. Children being abducted, subjected to rape and sex slavery, being shared with the clergy, Government officials and pedophile rings, being murdered, experimented upon, having their organs harvested, subject to torture...Ergh.

Leaves a bad taste in your mouth. Especially when you get those lads that tout something along the lines of "We won they lost".

Fuckin' 'ell. The US touts itself as a land of liberty and freedom, but when you look what's been/being done to the Native Americans...Nah.

 

[HomerJS]

Hate crime laws are stupid but if you're going to ignore them unless the "correct" type of person commits said crime they are worse than worthless and onto straight kangaroo court justice.

Absent hate crimes placing wood in the shape of a cross on someone's lawn and lighting it, is just illegal disposal of refuse. (In some municipalities)

 

[Victorian Gray]

Don't you worry, the shit they've suffered extends across the border. Native Americans were spread all o'er the continent, and consequently, so was the rape, the slaughter, the sex slavery and the genocide.

And by the looks of it, they're never going to be able to recover. The racism is so ingrained against 'em.




I read the Amnesty USA article covering it. Children being abducted, subjected to rape and sex slavery, being shared with the clergy, Government officials and pedophile rings, being murdered, experimented upon, having their organs harvested, subject to torture...Ergh.

Leaves a bad taste in your mouth. Especially when you get those lads that tout something along the lines of "We won they lost".

Fuckin' 'ell. The US touts itself as a land of liberty and freedom, but when you look what's been/being done to the Native Americans...Nah.

Well, in this case we're talking about Canada. Not sure what the Amnesty US had to say about the situation up here. I'll hunt down their report and check it out.

You might find this of interest

http://wherearethechildren.ca/en

 

[MajinCry]

Well, in this case we're talking about Canada. Not sure what the Amnesty US had to say about the situation up here. I'll hunt down their report and check it out.

You might find this of interest

http://wherearethechildren.ca/en

It's pretty late o'er here, so I'll check that out later in the day, once me head's had a bit of rest.

The Amnesty USA article's here. http://www.amnestyusa.org/node/87342

'Tis a wordy article detailing the sex slavery, the torture, the rape and the coverup of it all.

 

[michal1980]

Who is it that you think I'm defending?

the racist thug