Vince Young to suffer horrible injury. Titans season to go down in flames.

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Tennessee Titans quarterback Vince Young will be on the cover of the EA Sports Madden 2008 video game.

A source with knowledge of the situation confirmed Young?s gracing the cover of the game to The City Paper. Efforts to reach EA Sports were unsuccessful on Monday.

An official announcement is expected on Tuesday and Young will appear on "Jimmy Kimmel Live" as part of the kickoff promotion for the newest version the popular NFL video game that is endorsed by NFL Hall of Fame coach and analyst John Madden.

Of course, appearing on the cover of the game has produced a ?jinx? of sorts in recent seasons.

Several players, including former Titan Eddie George, have graced the cover, then succumbed to injury or ineffectiveness in the season they were on the game?s front.

George was on the cover during the 2001 season, the year he suffered through a toe injury. In 2000, George had rushed for a career-high 1,509 yards. Because of the injury, George managed just 939 yards in 2001 as the Titans slumped from 13-3 to 7-9.

Other prominent players to fall victim to the Madden Curse include quarterbacks Donovan McNabb and Daunte Culpepper and last year?s cover man Shaun Alexander.
Young apparently will also appear in commercial spots for the game that will be aired during coverage of the NFL Draft.
 

paulxcook

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His run is over before it began. Poor guy.

Seriously, though, I don't know what the fuss is over Young. He might turn into a great QB, but last year his passing was absolutely abysmal.

But according to ESPN talking heads, "All he does is win!"
:roll:
 

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What exactly did he do to earn the space on the cover??? Usually the right to the curse is reserved for someone who actually put up an MVP caliber season the previous year...that way it hurts most when they go down in the preseason! :D
 

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Originally posted by: mooglekit
What exactly did he do to earn the space on the cover??? Usually the right to the curse is reserved for someone who actually put up an MVP caliber season the previous year...that way it hurts most when they go down in the preseason! :D

All the good players probably ran for cover when EA made them an offer.
 

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Originally posted by: paulxcook
His run is over before it began. Poor guy.

Seriously, though, I don't know what the fuss is over Young. He might turn into a great QB, but last year his passing was absolutely abysmal.

But according to ESPN talking heads, "All he does is win!"
:roll:

Uh.. that's not just the talking heads, MANY people feel that way about VY ever since his days at Texas. Also, he's not supposed to be a prolific passer or anything like that, he wins games with his feet and his decision making, and as his record would indicate he wins A LOT.

For a rookie he did incredibly well on a very bad team, what's wrong serenading the guy for coming in during a putrid season and getting them inches away from a playoff spot? Jaded USC fan maybe?
 

paulxcook

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Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: paulxcook
His run is over before it began. Poor guy.

Seriously, though, I don't know what the fuss is over Young. He might turn into a great QB, but last year his passing was absolutely abysmal.

But according to ESPN talking heads, "All he does is win!"
:roll:

Uh.. that's not just the talking heads, MANY people feel that way about VY ever since his days at Texas. Also, he's not supposed to be a prolific passer or anything like that, he wins games with his feet and his decision making, and as his record would indicate he wins A LOT.

For a rookie he did incredibly well on a very bad team, what's wrong serenading the guy for coming in during a putrid season and getting them inches away from a playoff spot? Jaded USC fan maybe?

I'm not saying he won't be successful, I'm saying his play did not match the hype he received. I know his thing is to win with his feet, but how well has that worked out for Michael Vick? If he can work on his passing game, then he might be worth the hype.
 

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Originally posted by: paulxcook
I'm not saying he won't be successful, I'm saying his play did not match the hype he received. I know his thing is to win with his feet, but how well has that worked out for Michael Vick? If he can work on his passing game, then he might be worth the hype.

Well things like his passing game are part of the project, every rookie QB has a different learning curve that is setup for him to follow and his just involves becoming more accurate over time. The hype about VY was never about his passing or how many TD's he could throw anyway, it was about him being a true leader at QB that was athletic and talented enough to win games, which is what he did even after being "thrown to the wolves" in the middle of a dreadful season on an obviously sub-par team.

Will he be a consistent pro-bowl caliber QB who can keep winning? That's something you have to wait for, but he's shown flashes of greatness already if you ask me. He's never going to put up Payton Manning (or even Eli Manning) numbers, he's just not that kind of weapon, but he'll do other things to prove his worth and so long as that attributes to wins it shouldn't matter "how" he gets it done. Unconventional QBs don't do things the conventional way, obviously.
 

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Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: paulxcook
I'm not saying he won't be successful, I'm saying his play did not match the hype he received. I know his thing is to win with his feet, but how well has that worked out for Michael Vick? If he can work on his passing game, then he might be worth the hype.

Well things like his passing game are part of the project, every rookie QB has a different learning curve that is setup for him to follow and his just involves becoming more accurate over time. The hype about VY was never about his passing or how many TD's he could throw anyway, it was about him being a true leader at QB that was athletic and talented enough to win games, which is what he did even after being "thrown to the wolves" in the middle of a dreadful season on an obviously sub-par team.

Will he be a consistent pro-bowl caliber QB who can keep winning? That's something you have to wait for, but he's shown flashes of greatness already if you ask me. He's never going to put up Payton Manning (or even Eli Manning) numbers, he's just not that kind of weapon, but he'll do other things to prove his worth and so long as that attributes to wins it shouldn't matter "how" he gets it done. Unconventional QBs don't do things the conventional way, obviously.

The success of Vince Young is really going to be determined by the coaching staff and the players around him. As inaccurate as Vick can be passing the ball, his receivers were worse at catching the ball last season and the offensive coaching staff was dismal as well.

Young has a leg-up already though with Norm Chow as his immediate coach.
 

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Originally posted by: paulxcook
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: paulxcook
His run is over before it began. Poor guy.

Seriously, though, I don't know what the fuss is over Young. He might turn into a great QB, but last year his passing was absolutely abysmal.

But according to ESPN talking heads, "All he does is win!"
:roll:

Uh.. that's not just the talking heads, MANY people feel that way about VY ever since his days at Texas. Also, he's not supposed to be a prolific passer or anything like that, he wins games with his feet and his decision making, and as his record would indicate he wins A LOT.

For a rookie he did incredibly well on a very bad team, what's wrong serenading the guy for coming in during a putrid season and getting them inches away from a playoff spot? Jaded USC fan maybe?

I'm not saying he won't be successful, I'm saying his play did not match the hype he received. I know his thing is to win with his feet, but how well has that worked out for Michael Vick? If he can work on his passing game, then he might be worth the hype.

Well Vick still has a what, 65% winning percentage as starter (which is about 10.5 wins a season). He also lead the Falcons to a NFC Championship game appearance. He needs to work on his passing but the offense Greg Knapp installed wasn't really for Vick. Trying to put a square peg in round hole type of deal. What the new offensive coaching staff needs to do is use Vick's strength's.
 

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VY ran all over my trojans, oh well, at least I can appreciate a great player when i see him, Hope he doesn't become another victim of the madden curse

also talking about overrated, Brady Quinn b*ching about wanting to be the no #1 pick in the draft is annoying, he didn't win even 1 big game in his entire career at ND
 

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Originally posted by: kalster
also talking about overrated, Brady Quinn b*ching about wanting to be the no #1 pick in the draft is annoying, he didn't win even 1 big game in his entire career at ND
I'll agree wholeheartedly with that. After watching him in a few big games it was really, really hard to understand any hype about him. I just see a whiney rich kid who isn't getting his way.:disgust:

 

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i don't see how people can talk about him being so inaccurate. at texas his completion percentage always hovered around 70% & he made every throw that is expected of a quarterback. unfortunately, if the titans don't get some wide receivers that can actually catch the ball (titans had to be bottom 5 for dropped passes), they are going to do awful this year.
 

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Originally posted by: hdeck
i don't see how people can talk about him being so inaccurate. at texas his completion percentage always hovered around 70% & he made every throw that is expected of a quarterback. unfortunately, if the titans don't get some wide receivers that can actually catch the ball (titans had to be bottom 5 for dropped passes), they are going to do awful this year.

They call him inaccurate because his completion % last year wasn't all that great last season with the Titans. As you pointed out, wide receivers that can't catch is part of that problem. However, there isn't a stat for "catch %" for wide receivers so the QB gets the blame. (See Vick last season)
 

hdeck

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completion % != accuracy, which is what some people seem to be missing. if he was throwing 20 INTs to <10 TDs you can call him inaccurate/bad decision maker but it's not happening. i know i'm biased since i've seen every game he has played since his freshman year at UT, but some people are way too quick to blame inaccuracy for bad completion %.

vick has definitely suffered from dropped passes, but unfortunately his coach got the worst of that one.
 

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Whew, I'm just happy it wasn't LT.

<-- Proud owner of LT in FF keeper league.
 

BrokenVisage

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Originally posted by: mooglekit
Originally posted by: kalster
also talking about overrated, Brady Quinn b*ching about wanting to be the no #1 pick in the draft is annoying, he didn't win even 1 big game in his entire career at ND
I'll agree wholeheartedly with that. After watching him in a few big games it was really, really hard to understand any hype about him. I just see a whiney rich kid who isn't getting his way.:disgust:

Oh god, give me a break with these uneducated comments. :roll:

First of all, since 90% of this forum is biased against Notre Dame, by default I take what anyone has to say about the team or its most prolific passer (by the numbers) with a grain of salt.

Second of all, it's kind of hard to win big games when your defense GIVES UP big points consistently. Why do you think he has so many TD's, passing yards, and attempts? Uh.. because they needed to score and score a lot! And guess what.. that's what Quinn DID for the last 2 ****** years, he scored his ASS off only to always lose in the big games because his defense never gives him a chance. As good as he is (and believe me, he IS good) you just can't win without defense, is that Quinn's fault?

Thrid, go ahead and keep calling him a whiny bitch like the jealous haters you are making yourselves out to be with these pathetically explained observations. What you call "whining" I call re-emphasizing how great he became in only 2 years time at one of the most scrutinized positions on THE MOST scrutinized team. Whiney rich kid.. right.. Jamarcus Russell didn't *beat* Quinn in that bowl game either, contrary to popular belief, he beat a porous defense and dug ND into a hole where Quinn had to take chances in order to get out of it.

He wants to go #1, plain and simple, he doesn't care about going to his hometown at #4 or going to a better built team at #5 - #10, he wants to go #1 and he's trying to get the Raiders to realize he's more prepared and has a better upside then Russell. So call that whining if you want, but I call it campaigning and it's something that he's not the first QB to do, believe it or not.