Vince Carter teams up with Dwight Howard

jinduy

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looks like shaq/lebron doesn't look so hot anymore!

vinsanity
howard
nelson
lewis
? (hedo)

that's potentialy 5 all stars!

my guess is hedo will bolt orlando though and pietrus will slide to starting shooting guard
 

ProfJohn

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Next year should be a great year for the east.

Orlando and the Cavs should both be better which has to be a scary thing for the rest of the league.
 

ballmode

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Magic Vs. Spurs next title

that is if all teams stay healthy.

Top 4 teams in the NBA right now are:

Lakers
Magic
Nuggets
Spurs

maybe Celtics can be in the top 4 or 5 depending on health of its players and what they decide to do with their roster this offseason.
 

LS21

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for his salary they couldve gotten camby. offense would be good with jameer back in the mix. whos going to score inside vs dwight and marcus? NOBODY
 

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losing Turkoglu would be a huge loss for Orlando imo

more so than acquiring Vince Carter

he basically did everything for Orlando in the 4th QTR of the playoffs. a 100% Nelson might make the departure less noticeable, but I think it is a sizeable risk for the Magic to let Turkoglu go
 

rasczak

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Originally posted by: Udgnim
losing Turkoglu would be a huge loss for Orlando imo

more so than acquiring Vince Carter

he basically did everything for Orlando in the 4th QTR of the playoffs. a 100% Nelson might make the departure less noticeable, but I think it is a sizeable risk for the Magic to let Turkoglu go

agreed, the match up problems turko created just were hard to defend against. I really think the magic need to bring him back in order to make this team nearly unstoppable.
 

Rockinacoustic

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Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
if they lose hedo to get vince, it'll be one of the dumbest moves of the year.

I'd argue Pietrus' defense is more valuable to them right now than Hedo's offense and ball handling.
 

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If Hedo gets a better deal then he's going to leave, it's not about losing Hedo to get Vince. Turkoglu is probably more likely to stay with Vinsanity on the team now actually. Turkoglu is a great player though, to be sure.

ps How old is Carter now? Still the best dunker around? :)
 

Miramonti

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Say goodbye to Turkoglu. Not a chance they can afford Carter at $14m and Turk at $10m.
 

fustercluck

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Oh yeah the whole 'salary cap' thing...I never pay attention to those :x

Still they're loaded with talent either way.
 

ProfJohn

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Turk has opted out of his contract.

Maybe he was upset at becoming the 4th best player on the team?
 

fustercluck

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Turk has opted out of his contract.

Maybe he was upset at becoming the 4th best player on the team?

Hows that? He still would of been 2nd best if he stayed imo.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: ballmode
Magic Vs. Spurs next title

that is if all teams stay healthy.

Top 4 teams in the NBA right now are:

Lakers
Magic
Nuggets
Spurs

maybe Celtics can be in the top 4 or 5 depending on health of its players and what they decide to do with their roster this offseason.


LOL
 

Miramonti

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Turk has opted out of his contract.

Maybe he was upset at becoming the 4th best player on the team?

He was planning to opt-out regardless. His value is more than what Orlando is paying him now, and they knew if he was going to stay with the team, they'd have to pay him more. I'd still like that to happen, but can't see it happening after taking on carter's contract.
 

oiprocs

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Originally posted by: LS21
for his salary they couldve gotten camby. offense would be good with jameer back in the mix. whos going to score inside vs dwight and marcus? NOBODY

Good fucking point.

But they needed a finisher.

But I think Camby is rocking $10mil a year, and Hedo is expecting to get that much.

Doesn't Vince make $20mil a year?

:Q
 

oiprocs

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Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
if they lose hedo to get vince, it'll be one of the dumbest moves of the year.

I'd argue Pietrus' defense is more valuable to them right now than Hedo's offense and ball handling.

Yeah, great defense that could not stop Kobe.

It's great to have a defender that can guard most guys throughout the regular season, but you need a guy that can stick with the best in the playoffs. That's where the specialists stand out.

That's why the Lakers need to sign Ariza badly.
 

sactoking

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The trade was stupid. The Magic got rid of Alston and Lee, two solid contributors, for Carter. Vince Carter is done, stick a fork in him. When he was in his prime, he was the best slasher in the game. But he could never shoot, never played defense, and wasn't a solid rebounder or passer. Now? He still can't shoot, doesn't play defense, and he can't get to the hole nearly as well. Oh, and he has to jack up 25 shots a game to be effective.

You're going to add that to a team that has Howard whining about not enough touches, Lewis jacking up a 3 every other time down the court, and Jameer Nelson- who doesn't exactly light it up from a passing standpoint? You're going to practically guarantee that you lose Turkoglu, a good 6-10 point-forward that can play defense and rebound, was the only player who wanted to take shots at crunch time in the playoffs, and was the only guy that could create a shot for someone else.

There's a reason that guys like Vince Carter and Allen Iverson make pretty much every team they go to worse...
 

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Originally posted by: scorpious
Originally posted by: LS21
for his salary they couldve gotten camby. offense would be good with jameer back in the mix. whos going to score inside vs dwight and marcus? NOBODY

Good fucking point.

But they needed a finisher.

But I think Camby is rocking $10mil a year, and Hedo is expecting to get that much.

Doesn't Vince make $20mil a year?

:Q

16.3 million in 2009/2010

17.3 million in 2010/2011

Team option for 2011/2012
 

LS21

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Originally posted by: jinduy
turkoglu wants 10 mil

he's not worth 10 mil to the magic

if starbury, kirilenko, zach randolph, etc are making 15+, hedo sure as hell should get 10

hell, wally szcerzebak got 13...