Viewsonic 2235, BSOD "Hardware failure", and "strange behavior"

BonzaiDuck

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The "Topic Summary" doesn't adequately describe my "incident" -- so let me explain.

I have a ten-month-old Viewsonic VX2235wm widescreen LCD monitor.

Perhaps -- I've grown a little careless -- unplugging the DVI plug with the monitor in "sleep" (amber) mode after shutting down the computer. Let me explain why I'd want to unplug it.

I have three computers here, operating through an old Belkin KVM 4-port switch. I am using two monitors -- one for my old Pentium 4 file server, the other for my Conroe and Penryn systems. The monitor for the server is Viewsonic E70f CRT-flat-screen (analog connection). So I'm sharing keyboard and mouse between all three systems, and I'm sharing the LCD monitor between two of them.

The latter two are using the same motherboard, BIOS revisions differing to optimize each for the respective Q6600 and E8400 processors. The E8400-based system has only recently been built, with two BFG nVidia Geforce 9600 GT cards in SLI. The Q6600 system has never had problems; it is OC'd to 3.15 GHz.

I have been carefully OC'ing the Penryn system. It uses 4GB 2x2GB of G.SKILL memory. It is running VISTA 64. The Q6600 system runs XP MCE 2005.

I had been switching the VX2235 monitor between the systems. The Penryn system is sort of a "pet project" for VISTA 64 -- so far, a success.

After running up the Penryn VISTA 64 to 3.82 Ghz and testing for some 5 hours with PRIME95 small-FFT test, I set it back to the less stressful 3.6 Ghz OC setting. There had never been any lockups, need for CLR CMOS, BSOD (except for initial troubles installing VISTA 64 -- thoroughly resolved), or any other abnormal difficulties as I proceeded to Over-clock. Remember -- I had extensive experience with this motherboard on the Q6600 system.

I decided that I need to test the RAM more thoroughly at the 3.6 Ghz settings -- not to confuse you -- this is the VISTA-Penryn system. These are DDR2-1000, running at DDR2-800 and the stock latencies (spec'd for DDR2-1000). The voltage was fixed near the bottom of G.SKILL's recommended acceptable range.

To test the RAM, I ran the PRIME95 Blend Test.

Twice, after running Blend Test for approximately 20 minutes, a BSOD would pop up and state "Hardware failure: consult hardware vendor." At this point, I am beginning to suspect the G.SKILL RAM modules, even for twisting up their voltage a bit more. I shut down the system, deciding to go back to my proven XP Q6600 system (same mobo model). I chose to reboot the Penryn and select "NORMAL" startup, shutting it down through VISTA normally. With the Penryn VISTA system shut-down (Viewsonic monitor in "amber" sleep mode), I removed the DVI plug and placed it back on the XP system.

Booting the XP system, I see the monitor blue light on, but no screen. Dead -- and black. I hit the ol' reset button. Nothing -- same result. I shut down the XP system, tried to turn off the monitor. The screen turns into a "checkerboard." I was finally able to turn it off. I unplugged it. I turned off the PSU of the XP system, unplugged the power cable, waited, plugged it back in, plugged the Viewsonic cable back on the graphics card, started up the XP system after powering up the Viewsonic, and . . . . all is well.

What may have happened here? I am thinking that my problem with the VISTA system is not the RAM, but more likely some glitch with regard to the monitor which may have occurred after dropping back to my earlier BIOS settings and less stressful over-clock.

YOUR INSIGHTS ARE EAGERLY -- EVEN DESPERATELY SOUGHT. I hate the thought of having to RMA this Viewsonic monitor, and for the moment, it looks as though it's working fine again. If there is a RAM problem on the VISTA-Penryn-SLI system instead, I can RMA or just pick up another DDR2 RAM kit for less than $100.
 

PingSpike

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The hardware failure is probably do to a unstable overclock or a problem any of the other hardware then your monitor. I just don't see how a bluescreen would be caused by the monitor.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Yes -- and I might be concerned that it was one of my (new) twin graphics cards. Neither of them are over-clocked.

I noticed, before the "incident," that rebooting with the "extreme" 3.82Ghz OC settings caused VISTA's "gadget" panel to leave an unrefreshed area on the screen when I closed it.

The bus settings on the motherboard that affected the PCI_E buses were fixed -- I did not leave them set to "Auto" -- to avoid risk to those graphics cards.

If I find that things don't return to normal when I reboot that system, or that I get the same BSOD, I guess I'm going to register those GFX cards in a hurry so I have the option for "RMA." I think there's a month's window on that matter, and I'm still "golden."

But I just don't see how my actions would've caused damage to the graphics cards. Something was "stuck" in the monitor's electronics, though -- otherwise, I would not have got the result of problems switching the monitor to the other machine.

I have another question -- should be easy for graphics and monitor "experts" to answer -- which I'm posting in another thread.

Let me name it now, in case you want to offer advice: "Analog versus DVI connection on LCD monitors." I encourage you to look for it within the next 20 minutes or so . . . .

. . . . and thanks again for your input . . . .
 

BonzaiDuck

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UPDATE:

With butterflies in my stomach, I've restarted the system after pulling the plugs, (more carefully) setting up the monitor connection, etc. I probably should've reset the CMOS.

The problem occurred, as I explained, after dropping back a 3.82 Ghz overclock to 3.6. (3.6 is easy, should be stable, should not be risky.)

First thing I notice: is suddenly, although room ambient is maybe 3C lower because we kicked the household AC on, the CPU core temperatures are more like 10C lower than they were running at "3.6" when the fault occurred. Right now, the "Blend-Test" load temperatures are in the high 40's Celsius -- and just "hanging in there." Very odd indeed.

I sure hope this is just a glitch precipitated by a marginally unstable over-clock. I don't think it's the memory. I can't see WHY it would be the graphics cards. I should even kick down the memory voltage a couple notches, but it's at the low end of the spec-range for these G.SKILLs.

If you accept the risks of over-clocking . . . . well . . . . "Please! Please! No more money to spend!" :D