FYI - the newer VX924's are rated at 3ms. I picked up the 3ms version at CompUSA this morning for $449 and there's a $50 rebate (plus a free Logitech wireless mouse & keyboard after rebates when you purchase a 17" or larger LCD). I started to order one online and save a few bucks but I wanted the option of exchanging the monitor quickly if it had dead pixels or any other problems. No dead pixels and the image quality is great. I played some Battlefield 2 and it looks fantastic. Watched several Quicktime movie trailers at Apple's site and they looked great, too.
I was definitely a "CRT-only for gaming" kinda guy but after playing BF2 on a good LCD I don't think I could ever go back to a CRT. The level of detail in the game is so much more dramatic with this monitor. I guess you just have to see it to believe it. Motion blur is imperceptible unless you turn super-fast and even then I'd say it's no worse than on a CRT. Added +szx 1280 +szy 1024 to the BF2 command line and am playing native res at 1280x1024. Schweet!
FWIW, I picked up the NEC 8ms LCD1970GX at Best Buy this weekend and that was the first LCD I'd ever gamed on. It was $100 more than the VX924 and I can't really see a difference in gameplay between the two (both being great). The NEC had one stuck green pixel, backlight bleeding at the top of the screen (only a problem when background was very dark), and the plastic molding surrounding the screen was warped at the bottom. For $500 AR I expected more so I decided to return it and try the VX924. I'm really glad I did!
edit: The price at Buy.com is now $384.54 shipped. Find a $15 off coupon to make the total $369.54 and this deal is pretty smokin' hot!
I was definitely a "CRT-only for gaming" kinda guy but after playing BF2 on a good LCD I don't think I could ever go back to a CRT. The level of detail in the game is so much more dramatic with this monitor. I guess you just have to see it to believe it. Motion blur is imperceptible unless you turn super-fast and even then I'd say it's no worse than on a CRT. Added +szx 1280 +szy 1024 to the BF2 command line and am playing native res at 1280x1024. Schweet!
FWIW, I picked up the NEC 8ms LCD1970GX at Best Buy this weekend and that was the first LCD I'd ever gamed on. It was $100 more than the VX924 and I can't really see a difference in gameplay between the two (both being great). The NEC had one stuck green pixel, backlight bleeding at the top of the screen (only a problem when background was very dark), and the plastic molding surrounding the screen was warped at the bottom. For $500 AR I expected more so I decided to return it and try the VX924. I'm really glad I did!
edit: The price at Buy.com is now $384.54 shipped. Find a $15 off coupon to make the total $369.54 and this deal is pretty smokin' hot!
what's buy.com's return polocy on dead pixels... i couldn't find where it said anything on it on thier website.
also, where do we get this $15 coupon you speak of??
also, where do we get this $15 coupon you speak of??
I don't know about Buy.com's dead pixel policy, but you can find the $15 off $200 coupon if you Google "buy.com coupon" and find the more recent ones that expire on 9/30.
FeuerFrei
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wth?! what if the monitor has some dead pixels??
these places need to plainly say "Dead Pixel Policy!" :frown:
FeuerFrei
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found this on ZipZoomFly
SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS
CPU | Hard Drive | Memory | Monitor
Arrangement for a return must be made within 15 days from the date the item is shipped.
15% restocking fee applies to all refunds.
Per State of California regulations, any taxes refunded in this case will be calculated based on the final refund amount minus the 15% restocking fee, not the original purchase price. Please refer to http://www.boe.ca.gov/pdf/reg1655.pdf for further information.
Products that are defective, and/or DOA (Damaged On Arrival), can be returned for repair / replacement.
All returns must also follow the return procedures mentioned above.
Overclocking or improper installation of CPU fans will cause CPUs to chip or burn. All chipped and burnt CPUs are considered physically damaged and are not eligible for replacement or refund.
i have one dead pixel from zipzoomfly and wished i read that earlier.... oh well. games look great and movies look good. brighter movies still look better to me. a dvd xvid rip of "the incredibles" looks great even better than my dell 1800fp.
ya, but we all know neweggs dead pixel policy... isnt it like 7 or 8 dead ones before they will take it back?
Ebuyer has the lowest price on Pricegrabber for me but their policy isn't too friendly:
LCD and Plasma televisions are NOT accepted for returns by Ebuyer U.S. Inc. The warranty on these products is provided by the Manufacturer. Please contact the manufacturer for any questions you may have concerning your product.
If you request a replacement, we will ship your replacement after we receive and process your returned product. If you need the direct replacement immediately, we recommend you request a refund (rather than a replacement) when you obtain your RMA number. The new order will ship in our normal shipping process and the credit will be applied within 10-15 days after receipt of the product.
Important Exceptions to Returns Policy
The following manufacturer's may not be exchanged or returned to us - All Sales are Final. When contacting the manufacturer, please have Date of Purchase, Serial number and Manufacturer part number of the product you would like to return or exchange.
(Viewsonic is listed among the vendors)
LCD and Plasma televisions are NOT accepted for returns by Ebuyer U.S. Inc. The warranty on these products is provided by the Manufacturer. Please contact the manufacturer for any questions you may have concerning your product.
If you request a replacement, we will ship your replacement after we receive and process your returned product. If you need the direct replacement immediately, we recommend you request a refund (rather than a replacement) when you obtain your RMA number. The new order will ship in our normal shipping process and the credit will be applied within 10-15 days after receipt of the product.
Important Exceptions to Returns Policy
The following manufacturer's may not be exchanged or returned to us - All Sales are Final. When contacting the manufacturer, please have Date of Purchase, Serial number and Manufacturer part number of the product you would like to return or exchange.
(Viewsonic is listed among the vendors)
I wouldn't buy this even if I didn't have the dell 2405 fpw cause I dont think viewsonic monitors are very good
And they didn't change the model # at all? Like add a 2, 3, B, or something to the end. How can you tell the difference before buying?Originally posted by: DoobieOnline
FYI - the newer VX924's are rated at 3ms. I picked up the 3ms version at CompUSA this morning for $449 and there's a $50 rebate (plus a free Logitech wireless mouse & keyboard after rebates when you purchase a 17" or larger LCD). I started to order one online and save a few bucks but I wanted the option of exchanging the monitor quickly if it had dead pixels or any other problems. No dead pixels and the image quality is great. I played some Battlefield 2 and it looks fantastic. Watched several Quicktime movie trailers at Apple's site and they looked great, too.
I was definitely a "CRT-only for gaming" kinda guy but after playing BF2 on a good LCD I don't think I could ever go back to a CRT. The level of detail in the game is so much more dramatic with this monitor. I guess you just have to see it to believe it. Motion blur is imperceptible unless you turn super-fast and even then I'd say it's no worse than on a CRT. Added +szx 1280 +szy 1024 to the BF2 command line and am playing native res at 1280x1024. Schweet!
FWIW, I picked up the NEC 8ms LCD1970GX at Best Buy this weekend and that was the first LCD I'd ever gamed on. It was $100 more than the VX924 and I can't really see a difference in gameplay between the two (both being great). The NEC had one stuck green pixel, backlight bleeding at the top of the screen (only a problem when background was very dark), and the plastic molding surrounding the screen was warped at the bottom. For $500 AR I expected more so I decided to return it and try the VX924. I'm really glad I did!
edit: The price at Buy.com is now $384.54 shipped. Find a $15 off coupon to make the total $369.54 and this deal is pretty smokin' hot!
Glad you like the LCD. I know the detail of LCD is good, but the main thing I've been hesitant about is that I'll miss the more vibrant/deep colors of CRT. Did you?
Does this LCD dither colors, like some do now, or is it the real deal?
Is that contrast ratio good?
Viewsonic LCD pictures are as good as any others, aren't they? I think DidlySquat may be thinking of their CRT's
If you get a defective LCD from ZZF, I guess you pay to ship it back to them?
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You're thinking of Envision. Viewsonic is among the best consumer monitors you can buy. But, hey, that's just my years and years of IT experience with innumerable monitors speaking, I'm sure you're basing your judgement on something far more substantial.
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If I recall, they have all been the same all along, it's just that running new tests showed that the 4ms spec was incorrect and it was actually 3ms.
isn't viewSonic a rather middling brand ? matbe it's not cheap crap but it's certainly not amongst the best. I've used numerous viewsonic LCDs and while they were acceptable, they were nothing special either and had a few issues like breaking down, cheap plastic back covers, annoyingly slow wake up time, and general faded colors (i guess that's like most lcds except maybe the best ones).
The VX924 is a great monitor, but I'm returning it to CompUSA. Why? Only because I found a stellar deal on the Samsung 930B ($399-10% coupon-$70 rebate) that comes out to $318 after tax for me. YMMV on using the 10% coupon since I've heard some managers won't allow it, but mine was cool with it. Saved me over $100 local retail vs the VX924 even after I had to order a DVI-D cable (930B doesn't come with one). Edit: the 10% coupon expired on the 5th. Still, the $70 rebate is good until the 10th I believe.
No noticeable difference in 8ms vs 3ms response times and gaming seems identical on both. I actually prefer the 930B simply because there are more OSD options and the included software makes it very easy to set up just the way you want it. You can make the colors freakishly vibrant on the 930B and I kinda dig it. No dead or stuck pixels on this one either, and minimal backlight bleeding around the top edge so I think it's a keeper.
I think you'd have a hard time going wrong with any of the 8ms or faster panels. I liked gaming on the NEC LCD1970GX, the Viewsonic VX924, and now the Samsung 930B. LCD's have definitely come a long way this year and the prices are falling every month. Good stuff!
Still, the $70 rebate is good until the 10th I believe.No noticeable difference in 8ms vs 3ms response times and gaming seems identical on both. I actually prefer the 930B simply because there are more OSD options and the included software makes it very easy to set up just the way you want it. You can make the colors freakishly vibrant on the 930B and I kinda dig it. No dead or stuck pixels on this one either, and minimal backlight bleeding around the top edge so I think it's a keeper.
I think you'd have a hard time going wrong with any of the 8ms or faster panels. I liked gaming on the NEC LCD1970GX, the Viewsonic VX924, and now the Samsung 930B. LCD's have definitely come a long way this year and the prices are falling every month. Good stuff!
Originally posted by: DoobieOnline
The VX924 is a great monitor, but I'm returning it to CompUSA. Why? Only because I found a stellar deal on the Samsung 930B ($399-10% coupon-$70 rebate) that comes out to $318 after tax for me. YMMV on using the 10% coupon since I've heard some managers won't allow it, but mine was cool with it. Saved me over $100 local retail vs the VX924 even after I had to order a DVI-D cable (930B doesn't come with one).
No noticeable difference in 8ms vs 3ms response times and gaming seems identical on both. I actually prefer the 930B simply because there are more OSD options and the included software makes it very easy to set up just the way you want it. You can make the colors freakishly vibrant on the 930B and I kinda dig it. No dead or stuck pixels on this one either, and minimal backlight bleeding around the top edge so I think it's a keeper.
I think you'd have a hard time going wrong with any of the 8ms or faster panels. I liked gaming on the NEC LCD1970GX, the Viewsonic VX924, and now the Samsung 930B. LCD's have definitely come a long way this year and the prices are falling every month. Good stuff!
What about color and contrast wise? Are they comparable or is one superior to the other?
Originally posted by: DoobieOnline
The VX924 is a great monitor, but I'm returning it to CompUSA. Why? Only because I found a stellar deal on the Samsung 930B ($399-10% coupon-$70 rebate) that comes out to $318 after tax for me. YMMV on using the 10% coupon since I've heard some managers won't allow it, but mine was cool with it. Saved me over $100 local retail vs the VX924 even after I had to order a DVI-D cable (930B doesn't come with one).
No noticeable difference in 8ms vs 3ms response times and gaming seems identical on both. I actually prefer the 930B simply because there are more OSD options and the included software makes it very easy to set up just the way you want it. You can make the colors freakishly vibrant on the 930B and I kinda dig it. No dead or stuck pixels on this one either, and minimal backlight bleeding around the top edge so I think it's a keeper.
I think you'd have a hard time going wrong with any of the 8ms or faster panels. I liked gaming on the NEC LCD1970GX, the Viewsonic VX924, and now the Samsung 930B. LCD's have definitely come a long way this year and the prices are falling every month. Good stuff!
dude, you've got to tell us how to get that deal... like where did the $70 rebate come from, and where did the 10% come from??
did anyone take a look at tom's charts?
This monitor is slower than the v191b ( fastest panel less than 16ms all the time, P-MVA> 16.7 million colours) !!
This monitor is slower than the v191b ( fastest panel less than 16ms all the time, P-MVA> 16.7 million colours) !!
wildcat, they are pretty similar but I think I'd give the nod to the 930B after setup because the image is so much more adjustable.
dugweb, sorry about getting you too excited bro! I was about to PM you the link to the coupon when I noticed that it expired on the 5th. The $70 rebate is good on purchases through the 10th and the forms print out at the register. So that makes the 930B $329 + tax after rebate. I feel pretty lucky that they let me use the 10% off again this morning but it must be because I was returning the NEC that I bought last weekend and I got 10% off on that purchase so they gave it to me again during the exchange.
dugweb, sorry about getting you too excited bro! I was about to PM you the link to the coupon when I noticed that it expired on the 5th. The $70 rebate is good on purchases through the 10th and the forms print out at the register. So that makes the 930B $329 + tax after rebate. I feel pretty lucky that they let me use the 10% off again this morning but it must be because I was returning the NEC that I bought last weekend and I got 10% off on that purchase so they gave it to me again during the exchange.
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