Vietnam vets’ annual ceremony relocated from D.C. due to Captain Bonespur's Army parade

Perknose

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For more than three decades, it has been held by the Vietnam Veterans Memorial for those who served in the war and later died. Not this year.

This is a disgrace. My old friend Steve from LA and I used to almost yearly, either in June or in July for the 4th. We both knew a lot of young men who never made it home. We stopped going more than a decade ago. I'm pissed.
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Moonbeam

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My feeling is that Trump lives to create outrage and is a master of doing so. The result is that people feel sick and release chemicals into their bloodstream that long term harm their health. There is no doubt he is dangerous. How to live in the world and effectively oppose his actions is a challenge we need to address. More immediately can we try not accommodate his love of infecting our minds, the one thing within our power to do?

Right now, as counterweight to despair, I am enjoying the fact that Putin has got Trump upset.
 
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For more than three decades, it has been held by the Vietnam Veterans Memorial for those who served in the war and later died. Not this year.

This is a disgrace. My old friend Steve from LA and I used to almost yearly, either in June or in July for the 4th. We both knew a lot of young men who never made it home. We stopped going more than a decade ago. I'm pissed.
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I'm sorry. I'm glad you and your friend were able to get back alive though and remember and commemorate those that weren't able to.




And if you don't mind me asking, and I've often wondered this.. did you ever come to any thoughts why Vietnam won despite us having better weapons and fire power? Were they just more willing to risk death in order to maximize pain and suffering on Americans who never felt they were fighting over their own homeland.. and from our viewpoint it was just a stupid place to get killed in?

Reason I'm asking is I sometimes wonder if that's the attitude needed to defeat MAGA.. like it'll cost us in blood and lives but maybe we need to do that.

And please don't hold back.. tell me how you really feel.. sometimes one needs to hear the painful truth.
 

Greenman

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Seems like the army should have known about the conflict when they started planning their 250th birthday event two years ago.
 

outriding

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Seems like the army should have known about the conflict when they started planning their 250th birthday event two years ago.

Please cite your source and let us know if there was a difference between the original plans and if it is different than what is being planned
 

BonzaiDuck

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. . . . . .
And if you don't mind me asking, and I've often wondered this.. did you ever come to any thoughts why Vietnam won despite us having better weapons and fire power? Were they just more willing to risk death in order to maximize pain and suffering on Americans who never felt they were fighting over their own homeland.. and from our viewpoint it was just a stupid place to get killed in?

Reason I'm asking is I sometimes wonder if that's the attitude needed to defeat MAGA.. like it'll cost us in blood and lives but maybe we need to do that.

And please don't hold back.. tell me how you really feel.. sometimes one needs to hear the painful truth.
It begs an answer. As a nation, we should have been more careful in our war-making. We can give the North Vietnamese some honor due. Is there something called "National Spirit"? What would fortify a 70-year-old grandmother hefting 600 lbs of war materiel down the Ho Chi Minh Trail on a bicycle -- something LBJ was quoted as saying?

When I think of the North Viets and VC, I am hopeful for Zelenskyy and the Ukrainians.

For future reference, however, a quote here from Emiliano Zapata: "Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!"
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We need some of that now. Otherwise, from the Greek poet SImonides: "Go tell the Spartans, stranger passing by, that here, obedient to their laws, we lie . . . "
 

Muse

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Trump will be vilified for his military parade in D.C., among myriad other things. He has to be made the poster boy for what not to do in American politics. Of course he is already, but more and more so going forward.
 
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Trump will be vilified for his military parade in D.C., among myriad other things. He has to be made the poster boy for what not to do in American politics. Of course he is already, but more and more so going forward.

Are you kidding?

He's the shining example of exactly what to do to MAGA.

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That's what they voted for and they're VERY VERY HAPPY he's doing it!
 
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Trump's Approval Rating Hits Second-Term Low With Most Accurate Pollster​

Looks like the numbers flipped

45% approval rating for any president these days is still remarkable.

Dems/liberals continue to underestimate just how popular he continues to be. Or rather, they vastly overstate how unpopular his policies are. The electorate is more than fine with anything he does.
 

ch33zw1z

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45% approval rating for any president these days is still remarkable.

Dems/liberals continue to underestimate just how popular he continues to be. Or rather, they vastly overstate how unpopular his policies are. The electorate is more than fine with anything he does.

Im not sure the electorate knows whats actually going on now. Social media info bubbles are all the rage