[Videocardz] New 1060 coming with GDDR5X

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Maybe it's GP104-based, because whatever GPU used in the regular GTX 1060 (GP106? I'm not sure) might not have physical support for GDDR5X. That's if there are even any physical differences.

Chances are, though, that I'm wrong about that, and GDDR5X can simply be dropped in in place of GDDR5, and the reason for using really cut-down GP104 GPUs, is that they have a stockpile of them (accumulated defective dies). Probably similar reason why they released the 3GB GTX1050 later in the lifespan of that GPU, with its missing memory controller and ROPs.
 

Guru

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Faster memory will hardly help on the 1060, since its primarily core bound in most games.
 
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Maybe it's GP104-based, because whatever GPU used in the regular GTX 1060 (GP106? I'm not sure) might not have physical support for GDDR5X. That's if there are even any physical differences.

Chances are, though, that I'm wrong about that, and GDDR5X can simply be dropped in in place of GDDR5, and the reason for using really cut-down GP104 GPUs, is that they have a stockpile of them (accumulated defective dies). Probably similar reason why they released the 3GB GTX1050 later in the lifespan of that GPU, with its missing memory controller and ROPs.
Well, GDDR5X has a different BGA layout.

Does GDDR5X replace GDDR5?
GDDR5X is not a direct replacement for GDDR5 due to package size differences. GDDR5 has a 170-ball, 0.8mm-pitch BGA package while GDDR5X has a 190-ball, 0.65mm-pitch package.
Interestingly you can hobble GDDR5X by running it in GDDR5 mode:

Can GDDR5X operate in GDDR5-like mode?
Yes, GDDR5X has two operation modes:
QDR mode: Supports speeds of 10 Gb/s and above
DDR mode: Supports 0.2–6 Gb/s speeds and is compatible with GDDR5
 

Qwertilot

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That truly would be extra specially bizzare though :)
 
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660Ti Redux.

Wonder if it's going to be named in the 2k series or the 1k series.

I can see GTX 2050...
 

Stuka87

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They may be releasing a rebranded GP104 as a 2050 or something, but I don't see them keeping around the 10 series name. Plus GDDR5X isn't package compatible with GDDR5 (as mentioned above).
 
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But NV does list a GDDR 5X 1060 now, so presumably it's real, whatever it is.
 

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a further cut 1070 kinda makes sense, presumably they've been stockpiling those chips for quite some time since they first released the 1080.
 

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660Ti Redux.

Wonder if it's going to be named in the 2k series or the 1k series.

I can see GTX 2050...
the GTX 760 was also a cutdown 680/670

I wouldn't be surprised if they made a "GTX" 2060 without the RTX stuff, and based on the old architecture as a stop gap until they are ready for a proper midrange RTX at 7nm
 
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Frankly a little surprised that there are enough gp104 chips to cut down this far.

There is a lot of room between the 1280 cores of the 1060 and the 1920 cores of the 1070 that they couldn't find room to split the difference and up the performance even a little bit?
 

Stuka87

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Frankly a little surprised that there are enough gp104 chips to cut down this far.

There is a lot of room between the 1280 cores of the 1060 and the 1920 cores of the 1070 that they couldn't find room to split the difference and up the performance even a little bit?
There may be some other reason why though. Maybe they can't go between because of the memory layout or something. Similar to the 970, which ended up with some memory being super slow because of how they cut it down.
 
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There is a lot of room between the 1280 cores of the 1060 and the 1920 cores of the 1070 that they couldn't find room to split the difference and up the performance even a little bit?
Yeah, very disappointing. Why not GTX 1060 ti?
 

Qwertilot

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They're firmly into stock disposal mode so presumably not worth the effort.

This might well be something they're doing simply to match an excess of 1070/80 chips to the higher demand for 1060 class gpu's.
 

DeathReborn

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They do have to be careful to leave enough gap for the upcoming expensive 2060 too.
 

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