Video: Rand Paul Supporter Stomps Head Of Female UPDATED

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PJABBER

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Lol, FNE, the crazed conspiracy theory which you wished to float here has been busted by reality. Now go take your meds.

Oh, and PJ, looks like we have the true identity of the paid provocateur now, Tim Profitt, Borbon County Rand Paul campaign coordinator!

Those crazy libertarians!

Always conspiring to have Moveon.org attack them.

You would think they were Republicans to bring on that kind of provocation.
 

JSt0rm

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The full clip of her charging through shows that. Under the circumstances I would have considered her actions as hostile and immediately put her out and no legal agency or court would have seen things differently. She was very lucky indeed.

So you are saying you could of shot her dead and no court would of seen it as wrong? Wow you guys are tough.
 

werepossum

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I was mostly throwing PJ's inflated weasel rhetoric back in his face. If she's a paid provocateur, then I guess it's fair to call Proffitt and his boys the same, as they may have even provoked the whole incident.

According to Valle, several men surrounded her before Paul arrived at the event in Lexington last night.


"They surrounded me," she said. "There were about five of them, they started motioning to each other, and they got behind me."
According to Valle, her partner, whom she identified as Alex, overheard the men threaten "we're here to do crowd control and we might have to take someone out."


"Rand Paul's car arrived, and as soon as it did, a couple of them stepped right in front of me and so I stepped off the curb to get around them, back out to the front, and at that point they started grabbing for me and I ran all the way around the car with them in pursuit, and the point at which they see the footage is after I've run all the way around the car and am in front of the car and that is when they take me down," Valle said.

As you can see from the footage...one or two people twisted my arms behind my back and took me down. I got into the [inaudible] position to protect myself and it was about two or three seconds after that that another person stomped on my head. I lay there for 20 seconds or so and then my partner Alex came and got me up and that's the point at which there's that media clip that is out of me speaking.

Valle said that about five minutes elapsed before the police arrived, at which point the attackers were gone. But she was questioned for about an hour nonetheless.


"The person that stomped me, I recognized him from other events. There are a few men that I know initiated the, sort of, the round up...that premeditated it."
Oh, hell, if she's a paid provocateur, then let's call them the Gestapo Goon Squad.
Well, at least the question is answered as to why she was in disguise. If she recognized the man who "stomped" her from "other events", then obviously she's been trolling these events attempting to evoke a response like this. Also explains why they are so angry.

No sympathy for the woman as she's the most useless of the ticks, but kudos to Rand for dropping the stomper. Can't have that sort of thing implicitly approved by inaction.
 

PJABBER

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I wonder how much she gets paid by Moveon.org and the other fringe leftie groups for doing something she so obviously loves.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Here's the guy that grabbed her and wrestled her to the ground

http://www.lisagraas.com/2010/10/paul-supporter-who-wrestled-woman-to.html

and here's his page on a rand paul meetup site

http://www.meetup.com/ronpaul-146/members/4459867/

some of his interests... rofl

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Looks like she was really lucky. WTF do you think is going to happen when someone tries to charge at a candidate like Walter Friggin Payton? I'm sympathetic in that she shouldn't have been harmed after she was subdued, but subdued she should have been. We have a video in this thread that shows her "approaching". What a stupid bitch. For anyone knew she was ready to kill.
 

spidey07

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Seems this guy is a patriot. He warned police that she was going to do something (he said they've seen her before trying to pull shit at other events) and they told him that wasn't their problem. He said he was protecting Rand because he through she was trying to harm him. County is going to subpoena him but I doubt any charges are brought because they certainly shouldn't be. He was protecting a Senate Candidate, he's a patriot.
 
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LittleNemoNES

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The only reason this should REALLY be made into a bid deal is because Tim Profitt (the foo' who stomped on the woman) works for Paul.
 

her209

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Now that its been established that Profitt is working for Rand Paul, Paul needs to come out and apologize to the woman.
 

her209

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Seems this guy is a patriot. He warned police that she was going to do something (he said they've seen her before trying to pull shit at other events) and they told him that wasn't their problem. He said he was protecting Rand because he through she was trying to harm him. County is going to subpoena him but I doubt any charges are brought because they certainly shouldn't be. He was protecting a Senate Candidate, he's a patriot.
LOL... free speech as long as it agrees with what "the Patriots" say.
 

Generator

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No surprise from these Kentucky thugs. Look at these gorillas paw at her and drag her to the ground. Despicable.
 

spacejamz

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No surprise from these Kentucky thugs. Look at these gorillas paw at her and drag her to the ground. Despicable.

you know, maybe if she didnt wear a disguise and charge straight at Paul, she would have never ended up on the ground...

People with wigs and sunglasses charging at people running for Senate in a threatening manner with an object in their hand might be considered a threat by most sane people...
 

werepossum

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you know, maybe if she didnt wear a disguise and charge straight at Paul, she would have never ended up on the ground...

People with wigs and sunglasses charging at people running for Senate in a threatening manner with an object in their hand might be considered a threat by most sane people...

Agreed, but putting his foot on her shoulder and kicking her once she is down and secured (bouncing her head on the pavement) is over the top. That's just his anger and frustration with this agitator, not legitimately responding to a threat. I don't know that I would return a true bill were I on the grand jury, but if I were in local law enforcement I'd definitely send this to the grand jury.
 

chucky2

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Yeah, but she/he essentially asked for it when she/he went and pulled that stunt she/he pulled.

You don't walk into a biker bar and start pushing and shoving people around and expect not to get pushed and shoved back.

You don't walk into a gay bar and start yelling that they're all fags and evil and pushing and shoving them and expect not to get pushed and shoved back.

You don't show up at a law enforcement convention and scream about police abuse pushing and shoving the people there, and expect not to get pushed and shoved back.

This person wanted to get crazy, well, she/he got crazy back.

Why is this so hard to comprehend?

Chuck
 

werepossum

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Yeah, but she/he essentially asked for it when she/he went and pulled that stunt she/he pulled.

You don't walk into a biker bar and start pushing and shoving people around and expect not to get pushed and shoved back.

You don't walk into a gay bar and start yelling that they're all fags and evil and pushing and shoving them and expect not to get pushed and shoved back.

You don't show up at a law enforcement convention and scream about police abuse pushing and shoving the people there, and expect not to get pushed and shoved back.

This person wanted to get crazy, well, she/he got crazy back.

Why is this so hard to comprehend?

Chuck

Agreed, and I have not the slightest sympathy for her. But people for whom I have not the slightest sympathy still have their rights. I have no problem whatsoever with them taking her down, I can even wish they had done so even more strenuously. And while I have every sympathy with the guy who kicked her, that doesn't change the fact that what he did was wrong. Even though I totally understand it and sympathize with his anger and frustration, it was still wrong.
 

chucky2

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It may have been wrong, however, he's not a trained LEO/MP, he's a political guy (and likely not a very experienced political guy...probably a common dude turned political). He's not going to have the training not to do something like that when some F'ing idiot does what she/he did...

...so while it's wrong, I certaintly wouldn't convict him, especially in light of she/he going to get that exact result.

This needs to be thrown out in court (if it ever goes there) or the jury needs to meet for about 2 minutes and come back with a not guilty plea for this 'foot stomper' guy.

Message needs to be sent that if one wants to get crazy, you get crazy back in your face. If going crazy still means that much, then, go for it....accept the consequences.

Chuck
 

spidey07

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LOL... free speech as long as it agrees with what "the Patriots" say.

Nowhere did I say she didn't have freedom of speech. She crossed the line when she bull rushed a Senate Candidate. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
 

werepossum

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Now there's a second assault charge filed. Seems a Conway supporter stepped on the foot of a Paul supporter who had recently had foot surgery and opened her incision. She too has filed assault charges, although that seems like something that could have been an honest mistake. (Note: Soundforbjt's link says it was intentional. YMMV) http://www.kypost.com/dpps/news/political/2-fights-break-out-during-paul_conway-debate-_5305909

I'm now ready to join the camp telling all these people to put on their big girl panties and STFU. This is Kentucky, not a Manhattan quiche party.
 

Zebo

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That dude is a sad excuse for a human being. You don't hit a woman first of all and second even if she was rushing once they restrained her the head stomp was a punitive measure. Guy or girl it's illegal for even cops to beat you once you are restrained. I need to get a sign. Course limp dick bullies don't pick on big men.
 

chucky2

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1. Women (and men that have a woman complex) have been screaming from the heavens that women are the equal to men. Well, she got the same treatment as a man would have/should have got. Shouldn't be a problem right?

2. She dressed as a man, so she was a "man".

'Don't hit her because she's a gurl' excuse not found.

Chuck
 

Throckmorton

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Seems this guy is a patriot. He warned police that she was going to do something (he said they've seen her before trying to pull shit at other events) and they told him that wasn't their problem. He said he was protecting Rand because he through she was trying to harm him. County is going to subpoena him but I doubt any charges are brought because they certainly shouldn't be. He was protecting a Senate Candidate, he's a patriot.

Are you seriously defending a guy who stomped on the head of a woman pinned to the ground?
 

Throckmorton

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It may have been wrong, however, he's not a trained LEO/MP, he's a political guy (and likely not a very experienced political guy...probably a common dude turned political). He's not going to have the training not to do something like that when some F'ing idiot does what she/he did...

...so while it's wrong, I certaintly wouldn't convict him, especially in light of she/he going to get that exact result.

This needs to be thrown out in court (if it ever goes there) or the jury needs to meet for about 2 minutes and come back with a not guilty plea for this 'foot stomper' guy.

Message needs to be sent that if one wants to get crazy, you get crazy back in your face. If going crazy still means that much, then, go for it....accept the consequences.

Chuck

Just when I didn't think you fucking nutjobs could get any more insane. I can't believe you would make excuses for someone stomping on the head of someone who is defenseless and pinned to the ground, simply because he doesn't have law enforcement training. Are you a fucking moron?
 

spidey07

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He's not getting charged. He has to go before a judge to see if charges should be filed. He was trying to protect a Senate Candidate from a clear threat.

This is Kentucky, we don't take kindly to physical threats.

Tim Profitt, a volunteer with Paul’s campaign, said he was concerned the woman was trying to attack Paul and acted only to subdue her.

“The way she went after him it looked like something bad was getting ready to happen,” said Profitt, 53, of Bourbon County.

He said he put his foot on her shoulder, not her head. “I said, ‘Now you stay down,’ and called for police. The only thing we were trying to do was subdue her.”
 
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spidey07

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Are you seriously defending a guy who stomped on the head of a woman pinned to the ground?

Lulz, there was no head stomping. That was a clear message "Stay down while we get the police."

We make our own decisions in life, she chose poorly.