Video: Police speeds with no lights, kills 2 teens

[alkemyst]

The cop had the right of way because the light facing him was blinking yellow, not because he was a cop. The car that got hit would have had a blinking red (i.e. stop sign).

The cop and the other car were travelling in opposite directions, not perpendicular. They'd have had the same color lights.

 

[SandEagle]

Eh? This happened a year ago. Last I heard the cops defense were that the 2 teens were drinking, and the cop (although speeding) had the right of way.

Don't know how it ended up.

according to this, the criminal case against the cop is headed to court, but no date set yet....after almost 2 years.

http://www.ctbulletin.com/articles/2011/04/28/news/doc4db94e5923c30918358772.txt?viewmode=fullstory

 

[Alone]

The cop and the other car were travelling in opposite directions, not perpendicular. They'd have had the same color lights.

The other car was turning left when not safe to do so, and that was his fault.

 

[fstime]

But ~94 mph on public non-highway roads is also not safe either.

I would say 50:50 fault.

The driver would have assumed the oncoming car was going your average 30 mph rather than 90+ and had enough time to make the turn also.

 

[Brigandier]

Cops do not have "right of way" unless they are lit.

I agree, it's fucked, I can't stream video, sorry. The cop got shit-canned and will likely get convicted, and even if he doesn't go to prison, his reputation is in the shitter and he has to start at the bottom of some ladder.

If you knew me, you'd know I'm kinda anti-cop, my original post was deadpan. If the guy has no excuse, I will not excuse him, he should get what he deserves. It sucks when jackasses take 1.5(probably closer to 2 if it was a cop car) and accelerate it to stupid speeds. If they want to do that, they should go to one of the few states that have "prudent speed" laws or to Germany.

I can continue fighting for the cop, though, if that will please you. He's a good guy, he just like shooting clay and making your neighborhood safe. He made a mistake, and killed some kids, but he's still willing to work to make you safe, even on double secret probation, if it was offered!

 

[alkemyst]

I agree, it's fucked, I can't stream video, sorry. The cop got shit-canned and will likely get convicted, and even if he doesn't go to prison, his reputation is in the shitter and he has to start at the bottom of some ladder.

If you knew me, you'd know I'm kinda anti-cop, my original post was deadpan. If the guy has no excuse, I will not excuse him, he should get what he deserves. It sucks when jackasses take 1.5(probably closer to 2 if it was a cop car) and accelerate it to stupid speeds. If they want to do that, they should go to one of the few states that have "prudent speed" laws or to Germany.

I can continue fighting for the cop, though, if that will please you. He's a good guy, he just like shooting clay and making your neighborhood safe. He made a mistake, and killed some kids, but he's still willing to work to make you safe, even on double secret probation, if it was offered!

That's the thing, you simply reply to things with no knowledge and just assumptions.

They call that ignorance.

 

[Alone]

I can continue fighting for the cop, though, if that will please you. He's a good guy, he just like shooting clay and making your neighborhood safe. He made a mistake, and killed some kids, but he's still willing to work to make you safe, even on double secret probation, if it was offered!

Except he's had a few incidents against him. One unlawful assault on duty for which he was fired earlier the same year, and another for a potential wrongful death (for which he was, however, cleared).

 

[waggy]

according to this, the criminal case against the cop is headed to court, but no date set yet....after almost 2 years.

http://www.ctbulletin.com/articles/2011/04/28/news/doc4db94e5923c30918358772.txt?viewmode=fullstory

maybe part of the reason its been 2 years is games the police department is playing with reports and the video. they refused to give anything to the defense and even reports of them trying to erase the video.

"The case has been plagued with problems. When lawyers for the teens requested documents and videos from the Milford police department, under the Freedom of Information Act, one of Anderson's colleagues deleted some of the dashboard camera footage, suspiciously claiming his deeds to be an accident. However, many attributed it to a cover up. "

but yeah i'm waiting for him to walk ..

 

[thescreensavers]

Apparently none of them looked? Wtf

 

[Brigandier]

Except he's had a few incidents against him. One unlawful assault on duty for which he was fired earlier the same year, and another for a potential wrongful death (for which he was, however, cleared).

I don't think I could be this cop's lawyer if he paid me. I'd need it all up front, at least.

If you said he played football for a DIII team, the picture would be perfectly set.

 

[DominionSeraph]

but yeah i'm waiting for him to walk ..

Wouldn't bother me.
Kid made a very high-speed turn (eyeballin' it, looks to be over 30) with no turn signal evident. He raced in front of oncoming traffic and lost.
He had brakes. He should've used them.

 

[gaidensensei]

It's old news, but:

A postmortem examination of the two teens revealed that they were driving over the legal BAC limit. I'd say it impaired the driver's choices, but the police guy had no reason to be over the limit. If he just didn't floor the gas or was within the speed limit, the other car could have made it within milliseconds and nobody dead.

 

[Sluggo]

Another SandEagle find faults with PoLeece thread, whoud a thunk it?

 

[RapidSnail]

I live near the Boston Post Road and recognized the Frankies sign from the clip. I traced the route from the video on Google Maps for anyone interested in seeing the street view. Could have been UNH students coming back from a night out :|.

 

[DominionSeraph]

http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/new_haven_cty/teens_had_high_blood-alcohol_level

Goddamn how I hate our liberal media here in Connecticut. Not a single mention of how this is the Democrats' and Obama's fault.
Needs moar Fair and Balanced.

 

[killster1]

i agree stupid to not have the lights on.. ive almost got hit by idiot cop with no lights siren speeding crazy speed for no apart reason lucky i saw them goign 100 in teh 25 zone and didnt turn.. But the cop really wasnt going that fast and did have the right away.. I wouldnt be surprised if the other cars peps where drinking.. they died from that accident ouch.

 

[SonicIce]

I live near the Boston Post Road and recognized the Frankies sign from the clip. I traced the route from the video on Google Maps for anyone interested in seeing the street view. Could have been UNH students coming back from a night out :|.

i came here to post google maps!
also,
i used a stopwatch and timed how long it took for the cop car with the camera to cross two intersections then measured that distance in google earth and calculated it was going 68mph, and the cop that wrecked was going faster than that.

 

[BoberFett]

But cops are good people! Really!

Fuck pigs.

 

[Powermoloch]

:thumbsdown:

 

[KeithP]

The cop had the right of way because the light facing him was blinking yellow, not because he was a cop. The car that got hit would have had a blinking red (i.e. stop sign).

Yes and the kids were apparently drunk...
http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/crime/Cop-was-going-94mph-at-time-of-orange-crash

That isn't meant to say the cop had no responsibility here, not by long shot, I just point it out because once again the copy hating nut jobs leave out the facts.

-KeithP

 

[mrjminer]

Yes and the kids were apparently drunk...
http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/crime/Cop-was-going-94mph-at-time-of-orange-crash

That isn't meant to say the cop had no responsibility here, not by long shot, I just point it out because once again the copy hating nut jobs leave out the facts.

-KeithP

94 MPH in a 40 at 2:15 AM on a Saturday night within about a mile of a college? Drunk or not, that's not the kind of speed someone would estimate the oncoming to have, especially at night. Even if the cop was going 80 MPH (ie: merely double the speed limit), the kids would have made the turn. Not to mention, that cop should have slowed down as soon as their car entered the intersection. Hell, he didn't even slam his brakes even when it was obvious the crash was imminent (no skid marks).

Cop deserves two counts of involuntary manslaughter or vehicular homicide, easily.

 

[DominionSeraph]

Drunk or not, that's not the kind of speed someone would estimate the oncoming to have, especially at night.

I would. It's not that hard to actually LOOK. It's just most people don't.

I see it all the time. I'm runnin' trips -- middle of the day with my headlights on -- and some woman driver pulls up from a side street, takes a quick glance down the road, sees where I am, and pulls right out.
Hey lady, maybe you wanna take the second it takes to actually judge the speed of oncoming traffic rather than just assume it?

("Trips" meaning, "triple the speed limit.")

Not to mention, that cop should have slowed down as soon as their car entered the intersection. Hell, he didn't even slam his brakes even when it was obvious the crash was imminent (no skid marks).

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"Entered the intersection?" It doesn't even look like the kid slowed before making the turn. Look at the headlight jump as his car launches over a bump followed by him shooting right across. Why would anyone expect that a car with no turn signal and who hadn't even slowed for his red blinking arrow be making a turn right in front of you?
The cop in fact had damn FAST reactions. Under a second from when the car was obviously coming across to where he hit the brakes. At ~13.3 the sine passes the point where there's enough crossing movement to make it obvious he's into the turn and the cop is braking right at 14.
If the cop had been doing 40 it would've still been an "oh shit" moment. That video actually stretches things out. Look at Google maps for the Wendy's. The signs he is between as the kid makes his turn are only a couple car lengths from the intersection.
If you are here doing 40 with both lanes full and someone pulls a speed racer limit-of-adhesion turn right in front of you, it's a "Holy shit that kid's looking to get himself killed," moment.
Kid found what he was looking for.


Sounds like you've only been on the streets for a year or two yourself there, mrjminer, if you don't know how to read that like a driver. That kid's maneuver is the type of bonehead thing I would've pulled at 16-20, overconfident in my driving abilities and thinking that my reaction time could get me out of anything. Shit, I caught air in a Plymouth Grand Voyager at its limited 105. Came back from a weekend trip in my Firebird with it COMPLETELY coated in mud and with tufts of grass in the T-tops. (As I was walking from my car in the base parking lot, some kid with a 4x4 with just speckles of mud down the sides was like, "How the hell did you manage to get mud on your ROOF?" I just smiled at him.)

But hooliganism is dangerous. That kid proves what can happen.

 

[waggy]

damn. sure the kids may have been drunk. But no matter how the fuck you want to spin it the cop is 100% at fault for this.

If the cops were doing the speed limit then the kids would have made the turn and continued on.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

If there was enough evidence for the police to actually fire him, that's pretty damning.

He was also being charged with manslaughter and reckless driving...

 

[M0RPH]

I see it all the time. I'm runnin' trips ...

("Trips" meaning, "triple the speed limit.")

Oh wow, aren't you cool. You have some cool lingo to describe your reckless driving. Fucking asshole.