VIDEO: North Korea (2 VIDEOS)

Dacalo

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That's some disturbing stuff...

That fvcker Kim Jong-Il needs to eliminated. My father trained spies for South Korea when he was younger. He sent countless spies but he said none of them returned.

South Korea/the U.S. sends them so much food, but that bastard uses all of it for military.
 

TheChort

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WOW, that video really touched me... I wasn't aware things were like that in N.Korea. I watched this all the way through last night. :(

that being said, i'm also gonna add that the documentary is EXTREMELY biased and borderline propaganda.
 

Dacalo

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Originally posted by: TheChort
WOW, that video really touched me... I wasn't aware things were like that in N.Korea. I watched this all the way through last night. :(

that being said, i'm also gonna add that the documentary is EXTREMELY biased and borderline propaganda.

How so? Even the documentaries made in South Korea reveal atrocities like these, even worse. And SK is trying to reconcile with NK, even going against the United State's suggestions, being too generous with food aid, heavily investing, and providing power/resources.

I used to live at SK and as I mentioned earlier, my father was in the military/espionage.
 

sniperruff

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
This is the country we should have invaded

north korea definitely has WMD
iran probably has WMD

we should have settled afgan first, then secure both of those countries.
 

Dacalo

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Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: Mo0o
This is the country we should have invaded

north korea definitely has WMD
iran probably has WMD

we should have settled afgan first, then secure both of those countries.

Those of you who are serious about invading NK, you guys are fools and naive.

If you aren't aware, North Korean military is more formidable than Iraq or Iran, although their equipments are rather dated. Once invaded, they will launch a barrage of artillery and missiles to South Korea and perhaps to Japan. A metropolitan like Seoul will have very heavy casualties.

Korean peninsula is not flat. There are a lot of mountains, and this will prove to be challenging for tanks/mobile forces.

The difference between NK and Iran/Iraq/Afghanistan is that there is a counterpart in SK that will experience severe attrition.
 

intogamer

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Originally posted by: Dacalo
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: Mo0o
This is the country we should have invaded

north korea definitely has WMD
iran probably has WMD

we should have settled afgan first, then secure both of those countries.

Those of you who are serious about invading NK, you guys are fools and naive.

If you aren't aware, North Korean military is more formidable than Iraq or Iran, although their equipments are rather dated. Once invaded, they will launch a barrage of artillery and missiles to South Korea and perhaps to Japan. A metropolitan like Seoul will have very heavy casualties.

Korean peninsula is not flat. There are a lot of mountains, and this will prove to be challenging for tanks/mobile forces.

The difference between NK and Iran/Iraq/Afghanistan is that there is a counterpart in SK that will experience severe attrition.

Thats why you gotta nuke the capital + major cities
 

Number1

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Originally posted by: intogamer
Originally posted by: Dacalo
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: Mo0o
This is the country we should have invaded

north korea definitely has WMD
iran probably has WMD

we should have settled afgan first, then secure both of those countries.

Those of you who are serious about invading NK, you guys are fools and naive.

If you aren't aware, North Korean military is more formidable than Iraq or Iran, although their equipments are rather dated. Once invaded, they will launch a barrage of artillery and missiles to South Korea and perhaps to Japan. A metropolitan like Seoul will have very heavy casualties.

Korean peninsula is not flat. There are a lot of mountains, and this will prove to be challenging for tanks/mobile forces.

The difference between NK and Iran/Iraq/Afghanistan is that there is a counterpart in SK that will experience severe attrition.

Thats why you gotta nuke the capital + major cities

That's going to make the North Korean's life so much better. At least the human flesh will be cooked when they have to eat it.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: intogamer
Originally posted by: Dacalo
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: Mo0o
This is the country we should have invaded

north korea definitely has WMD
iran probably has WMD

we should have settled afgan first, then secure both of those countries.

Those of you who are serious about invading NK, you guys are fools and naive.

If you aren't aware, North Korean military is more formidable than Iraq or Iran, although their equipments are rather dated. Once invaded, they will launch a barrage of artillery and missiles to South Korea and perhaps to Japan. A metropolitan like Seoul will have very heavy casualties.

Korean peninsula is not flat. There are a lot of mountains, and this will prove to be challenging for tanks/mobile forces.

The difference between NK and Iran/Iraq/Afghanistan is that there is a counterpart in SK that will experience severe attrition.

Thats why you gotta nuke the capital + major cities

Won't work. Every wargame scenario puts Seoul at minimum 33% destroyed, even with first mover advantage
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Dacalo


If you aren't aware, North Korean military is more formidable than Iraq or Iran, although their equipments are rather dated. Once invaded, they will launch a barrage of artillery and missiles to South Korea and perhaps to Japan. A metropolitan like Seoul will have very heavy casualties.

Korean peninsula is not flat. There are a lot of mountains, and this will prove to be challenging for tanks/mobile forces.

The difference between NK and Iran/Iraq/Afghanistan is that there is a counterpart in SK that will experience severe attrition.

And add to that the fact that unlike Iraq or Iran, North Korea has no natural resources for us to use to justify the cost of war. We'd have nothing to gain, and they'd have nothing to lose.

They're doing bad enough just where they are, so the US will wisely allow them to stay that way.
 

sandmanwake

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Originally posted by: Dacalo
That's some disturbing stuff...

That fvcker Kim Jong-Il needs to eliminated. My father trained spies for South Korea when he was younger. He sent countless spies but he said none of them returned.

South Korea/the U.S. sends them so much food, but that bastard uses all of it for military.


Either NK's antispy division is really good or your dad really sucked at the training and forgot to put the South Korean spies on a no food diet so they'd look like the North Korean and could blend in more easily.
 

Circlenaut

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Originally posted by: intogamer
Originally posted by: Dacalo
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: Mo0o
This is the country we should have invaded

north korea definitely has WMD
iran probably has WMD

we should have settled afgan first, then secure both of those countries.

Those of you who are serious about invading NK, you guys are fools and naive.

If you aren't aware, North Korean military is more formidable than Iraq or Iran, although their equipments are rather dated. Once invaded, they will launch a barrage of artillery and missiles to South Korea and perhaps to Japan. A metropolitan like Seoul will have very heavy casualties.

Korean peninsula is not flat. There are a lot of mountains, and this will prove to be challenging for tanks/mobile forces.

The difference between NK and Iran/Iraq/Afghanistan is that there is a counterpart in SK that will experience severe attrition.

Thats why you gotta nuke the capital + major cities

Right and kill the innocent people, which we would invade to save. I think the sad way to handle the situation is let the country eat itself (unfortunitly literally I think). Cut all aid and let the elite/military starve, they would be the ones that would institute an effective revolution. Piss off the elites
 

TheChort

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Originally posted by: Dacalo
Originally posted by: TheChort
WOW, that video really touched me... I wasn't aware things were like that in N.Korea. I watched this all the way through last night. :(

that being said, i'm also gonna add that the documentary is EXTREMELY biased and borderline propaganda.

How so? Even the documentaries made in South Korea reveal atrocities like these, even worse. And SK is trying to reconcile with NK, even going against the United State's suggestions, being too generous with food aid, heavily investing, and providing power/resources.

I used to live at SK and as I mentioned earlier, my father was in the military/espionage.

i dont know...
i just felt like the journalist went in there with the intention to show how fvcked up NK is. I couldn't notice any positive things about NK from the way they editted the video. The fact is, we weren't really introduced to the NK perspective on things. The one woman talking about the monument was shown for 15 seconds, and immediately the narrator came on talking about how she is just preaching NK propaganda.
The video made all 'happy' NK citizens out to be mindless drones. It seemed too 1984-esque.

Maybe I'm way off. Maybe the country really is that fvcked up, but considering the political bias in not just communist countries, but in the US media as well, Im willing to take that documentary with a grain of salt
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: Dacalo
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: Mo0o
This is the country we should have invaded

north korea definitely has WMD
iran probably has WMD

we should have settled afgan first, then secure both of those countries.

Those of you who are serious about invading NK, you guys are fools and naive.

If you aren't aware, North Korean military is more formidable than Iraq or Iran, although their equipments are rather dated. Once invaded, they will launch a barrage of artillery and missiles to South Korea and perhaps to Japan. A metropolitan like Seoul will have very heavy casualties.

Korean peninsula is not flat. There are a lot of mountains, and this will prove to be challenging for tanks/mobile forces.

The difference between NK and Iran/Iraq/Afghanistan is that there is a counterpart in SK that will experience severe attrition.

I'm not really talking about it from a strategic point of view, more from a "how big of a difference it would make." Life in Iraq really wasn't that bad during Saddam's reign for the majority of the poeple. I understand of course they're under political oppression and if you were a Kurd then life sucked but for most people they had access to resources and there wasn't mass starvation. Life in NK sucks ass. When people are forced to eat tree bark and the government refuses to help, it's time for teh world to step in. I dont care if they dont have oil or diamonds or whatever. maybe it's too idealistic of me, oh well.