VIDEO: Jesse Ventura CONFIRMS domestic spying, concentration camps, HR 645 and more

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PeshakJang

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?? LoL You brain dead shit. I don't think that.

So you are jumping to the defense of the Government possibly doing something Orwellian?? Or do you just think that it's a ridiculous premise and those presenting the information deserve to be ridiculed and dismissed like the rest of us....
 

JSt0rm

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So you are jumping to the defense of the Government possibly doing something Orwellian?? Or do you just think that it's a ridiculous premise and those presenting the information deserve to be ridiculed and dismissed like the rest of us....

I think its ridiculous that people that are against soclial services for our own citizens fully and completely trust the militarized aspects of the government. It doesn't make any sense and it highlights how bankrupt your thinking it.
 

PeshakJang

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I think its ridiculous that people that are against soclial services for our own citizens fully and completely trust the militarized aspects of the government. It doesn't make any sense and it highlights how bankrupt your thinking it.

Why can't you hate social welfare and also see how fucking stupid this guy is?
 

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Why can't you hate social welfare and also see how fucking stupid this guy is?

U can. My point is conservatives hate social welfare and LOVE corporate welfare and military spending. When only social welfare in the long term would create more peace not less.
 

PeshakJang

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U can. My point is conservatives hate social welfare and LOVE corporate welfare and military spending. When only social welfare in the long term would create more peace not less.

And my point is Jesse Ventura is a bat shit crazy bag of fuck balls.
 

JSt0rm

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And my point is Jesse Ventura is a bat shit crazy bag of fuck balls.

But that is your opinion based on your preconceived notions of what you think already. All i'm saying is you are quick to judge someone who is saying something about the government that you don't agree with but ACORN helping pimps (as we found completly untrue) was probably totally feasable in your mind.
 

PeshakJang

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But that is your opinion based on your preconceived notions of what you think already. All i'm saying is you are quick to judge someone who is saying something about the government that you don't agree with but ACORN helping pimps (as we found completly untrue) was probably totally feasable in your mind.

My opinion is based on everything else that Ventura has said and/or done which makes me think he's drank too much paint thinner during his life. If he said Obama was passing the health care bill so he could experiment on babies born in Government hospitals, I would say he is just as crazy now. The subject is irrelevant.
 

IceBergSLiM

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My opinion is based on everything else that Ventura has said and/or done which makes me think he's drank too much paint thinner during his life. If he said Obama was passing the health care bill so he could experiment on babies born in Government hospitals, I would say he is just as crazy now. The subject is irrelevant.

you didn't even watch what was in the OP why are you still commenting? You again have yet to refute anything in the OP with anything other than adhominem or strawman. why are you still in this thread? Great you hate jesse ventura....go troll somewhere else.
 

Fern

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U can. My point is conservatives hate social welfare and LOVE corporate welfare and military spending. When only social welfare in the long term would create more peace not less.

No, conservatives do not love, or even like, corporate welfare.

Moreover, any real conservative would be alarmed at any type of "Orwellian" activity taking place here in the USA.

IMO, the type of thinking that "loves" social welfare is what leads to "Orwellian" behavior by the federal government. Both are just examples of the federal government taking care of you and doing what is best for all of us.

Fern
 

PeshakJang

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you didn't even watch what was in the OP why are you still commenting? You again have yet to refute anything in the OP with anything other than adhominem or strawman. why are you still in this thread? Great you hate jesse ventura....go troll somewhere else.

No, I watched about 10 minutes before I couldn't go any further.

Here's something for you to read which may help you on your way to recovery:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/4312850

Covers many things in this FEMA camp theory, which is many years old, including the stupid fucking "coffin" theory.
 

JSt0rm

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No, conservatives do not love, or even like, corporate welfare.

Moreover, any real conservative would be alarmed at any type of "Orwellian" activity taking place here in the USA.

IMO, the type of thinking that "loves" social welfare is what leads to "Orwellian" behavior by the federal government. Both are just examples of the federal government taking care of you and doing what is best for all of us.

Fern

What about medicare part D? That was the very definition of corporate welfare.
 

Fern

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My opinion is based on everything else that Ventura has said and/or done which makes me think he's drank too much paint thinner during his life. If he said Obama was passing the health care bill so he could experiment on babies born in Government hospitals, I would say he is just as crazy now. The subject is irrelevant.

Lord I hate using worn out cliches, but you haven't you heard that 'even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and then'?

So what if Jesse is half crazy? Even he may stumble upon something valid every once in a while. There's no need to take his word on anything. Just google, there's plenty of stuff about fusion centers, FEMA shelters etc in the news by others. And enough, IMO, to warrent further interest. Looks like at least 3 valid concerns have been brought forth here:

1. The US -Canada agreement which, if true, appears to part of a substantial erosion of the Posse Comitatus Act.

2. Fusion Centers. Domestic intel gathering with little-to-no oversight? If true that strikes me as more of a concern than the Patriot Act that so many love to scream about. I see that the ACLU is concerned about Fusion Centers, so it's unlikely they don't exist and it's only someone's tinfoil hat imagination running wild.

3. FEMA shelters built like concentration camps. Apparently Congress felt they needed to pass a law allowing those. But they haven't and yet we have numerous shelters anyway? Maybe it's just me but I find that odd. I can see the benefit of planning for, or maybe even pre-building, shelters, but with barbed wire etc? I don't like that. IIRC, during Katrina those who sought refuge inside the Super Dome weren't allowed to leave once in there, no matter how bad the conditions were. I don't like the idea of that, not at all.

Fern
 
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Fern

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What about medicare part D? That was the very definition of corporate welfare.

I don't remember the details of it now. I do remember not liking it when they passed it, too expensive etc.

But please don't mistake that crew (Bush and many of the Repubs in Congress back then) for conservatives.

Fern
 
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JSt0rm

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I don't remember the details of it now. I do remember not likeing it when they passed it, too expensive etc.

But please don't mistake that crew (Bush and many of the Repubs in Congress back then) for conservatives.

Fern

Well excuse me for not trusting to know when the real conservatives come to power. I guess give me a poke when they arrive. What it looks like to me is that the republicans keep reinventing themselves every 8 to 12 years to keep feeding the shit sandwich to us.
 

thepd7

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OMG it's a freaking DRIVE-THRU OPERATION and law enforcement does absolutely NOTHING to stop it!!!!!111!!!!one!!1

Look at this!

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They "say" they were looking for a "robber". But we know what they're really up to -- they're there providing protection for the operation.

Scary stuff, man. Just what is happening to this country?

lol awesome
 

NoStateofMind

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Holy shit this stuff is hilarious!

Why might a "Residential center" have barbed wire?



Because it's for freaking detainees!


Why might you need stacks of coffin liners? Hmmmm... perhaps because the U.S. death rate is 8 per 1000 people meaning nearly 2.5 million people die each year? It wouldn't exactly be efficient to make them on an individual demand basis when, after factoring out cremations, you're looking at around 4000 burials per day.

Man, it was interesting till you showed up with facts and stuff. GTFO dude destroying our fun!
 

IcePickFreak

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Son-of-a-bitches are dug in like an Alabama tick.

The show could use some better editing to not come off so corney. Do I think Ventura is a nutcase? Nope, being that he was a Navy Seal and a Governor I don't know what he's seen to lead him to where he is. When you're a government boogey-man though you've probably been part of some very questionably motivated operations on their behalf. Do I believe everything in the vids? Nope, much of it does seem quite far fetched but there are a few things that leave me with questions. The Congressman that was totally clueless about a bill he sponsored was worth a lol anyway. Would I be surprised if any of came true? Nope. Not that I'm expecting it, but when it comes to the upper-echelon and their money, I wouldn't rule anything out at this point tbh.

If that makes me a nutcase, well.. that would explain a lot actually. :awe:
 

IceBergSLiM

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No, I watched about 10 minutes before I couldn't go any further.

Here's something for you to read which may help you on your way to recovery:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/4312850

Covers many things in this FEMA camp theory, which is many years old, including the stupid fucking "coffin" theory.

The only relevant material there is items 4 & 5.

I agree the "coffin liners" could be a legitimate cover for a legitimate operation....today right now. This doesn't negate the fact for what they could potentially be used for. You or I cannot say if this is the only depot in the country. We simply don't know. Also, I highly doubt they are the only company making coffin liners. We have a large volume of deaths as someone else has said. Its doubtful they supply all of them. yes there are 4000 burials a day sure. However especially in this economic environment does it make sense to tie up capital in 125 days of product stock? If their turnover is that quick why do they need that much stock? That is their choice of course but its not a very lean manufacturing process. Again this could be 100% legit. I'm not saying thats out of the question.

Regarding the executive orders seciton.....that whole thing doesn't make any sense either. We know the DHS is involved in many top secret projects, why would popular mechanics have access to facts surrounding top secret matters? This was a particularly funny quote "The idea of the government seizing all the nation's farmland or forcing Americans into labor camps is without basis--" as if no government has ever done it. As if our government doesn't seize power and control at every chance it gets.

I do appreciate you posting a concrete response though.
 
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Do you dishonor every servicemen that wasn't "shot at" like this? He was part of an underwater demolition team that was later absorbed by the seals does that mean he wasn't highly trained? That he didn't put his life on the line? That he wasn't ready to die for his country?

I don't hold any more or less respect for someone that wears a uniform. As proven time and time again, there are good soilders and their are bad soilders.
Unilaterally holding all service members to some higher level of respect is assinine. Do you respect all the gang members that are currentlyt in the military soley to gain training and knowledge to use and teach fellow gang members later to use military tactics on the streets?
It's happening. They're tagging stuff in Iraq and Afganistan, there's videos of them using military style tactics to kill opposing gang members.
And just because he was essentially a frogman during peace time doesn't make him some super credible source of top secret information 50 years after he left the service.
A lot of peple go into the service specifically knowing they will never see combat. They go in because they can get training in fields they can later use in the civilian world.
Basically, I don't hold a higher lever of respect or honor for those that willingly sign up to join the military. They made a choice. I do have respect for those that were drafted and called upon to serve and actually served, not draft dodgers like Clinton.
 
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He's also been a mayor, govenor, successful entertainer, spokesperson, commentator, published author and has his own tv show. So...???? Even if you weren't full of shit he has still got a more substantial professional history than yourself. thanks.

So you think I dishonor some guy because I say he didn't see combat, yet you call someone full of shit and deride him when he states he has seen combat. You ma'am are the suck.
 

Rock Hydra

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No...this is about on par with 9/11 truther threads... which BTW Ventura has another truck full of nutty bullshit on.

Every time somebody posts the same stupid story about FEMA prison camps, it's shot down as bullshit within about 5 minutes. Why is this any different... because an idiot made a video about it?

So the admitted REX84 program is bullshit? Golf of Tonkin wasn't admittedly a lie? United States corporation didn't fund they Nazis? United States isn't still a British colony like Canada? Come on...stop letting yourself be lied to.

Plus, george bush said that nobody in government could have imagined crashing planes into a building, then the pentagon had to admit that they were running a drill the on 9/11/2001 in Washington DC which was identical to the attack that happened in DC. Hmmmmmm.....if you can't connect the dots, you are lying to yourself.
 
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Nintendesert

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So the admitted REX84 program is bullshit? Golf of Tonkin wasn't admittedly a lie? United States corporation didn't fund they Nazis? United States isn't still a British colony like Canada? Come on...stop letting yourself be lied to.

Plus, george bush said that nobody in government could have imagined crashing planes into a building, then the pentagon had to admit that they were running a drill the on 9/11/2001 in Washington DC which was identical to the attack that happened in DC. Hmmmmmm.....if you can't connect the dots, you are lying to yourself.



Wait, you believe that the USA is still a colony of the British Empire?