Video: Interview of Iranian President by Mike Wallace

[novon]

watch all the videos: http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60minutes/main3415.shtml

It was on 60 mintues last night,

Although this is an edited-biased version (Wallace's tone is a little unjournalistic), it conveys Ahmadinejad's message pretty well. Honestly, most of what he says sounds right and he asks some great questions and answers logically. He seems like a genuine guy. What I can't quite understand is the hypocracy of his concern with oppression of people in other countries, and his continued oppression of Iran's internal people (which comes in waves). I guess that he may not have as much power, and the Supreme Counsil really make the decisions, but I'm glad someone is calling out the US/Britian hawks on their ill-concieved plans.

Complete 1.5 hour interview unedited will broadcast on CSPAN tonight @ 8pm ET/PT !!!

 

[Genx87]

If he is genuine we should take him out now, before he goes nuclear and brings a holocaust to the ME.

His concerns about oppression in other countries is like every other power hungry dictator. It is a good populist stance to get the easily lead to believe you are benign and genuine while they get ready to put the knife in your back.

*cough*OP*cough*

 

[Screech]

That guy was was so full of sh*t, it was hilarious. Especially when he tried to evade questions. And come on, does anyone really believe he wants nuclear technology only for power use? he says this, and that we now live in the age of cultural exchanges, not bombs, while Iran funds hizbullah and supplies them. doublespeak much?

 

[Lemon law]

I saw the 60 minutes thing---I was very turned off by Mike Wallace's unjournalistic tone---and by Ahmadinejad's sloganeering. All in all a worthless interview at least in my opinion.
Lots of heat but shed no light about where to go from here---and either you deny the holcaust or you do not---why straddle the fence.

But the way to make progress is to admit past wrongs on all sides---not just harp on why the other guy is wrong. But still Ahmasinejad comes off as smarter than GWB---but that does not say much.--------but both are at the rationise stage------and way shy of the impartial analysis stage that it takes to be a positive part of the mid-east peace process.

 

[alchemize]

So did Mike ask him about wiping Israel off the map or did that not come up? What was his logical answer to that?

 

[novon]

He did - you can see it in the full interview. His answer was Zionist Israel is a fabricated government, and if Germany caused the hollocaust, why isn't Israel in Europe or America, why do thousands of Palestinians who had nothing to do with the hollocaust have to die and get their homes taken away so that Israel could be created?

 

[alchemize]

That's quite logical, :roll:. So when is he going to start calling for the US to be wiped off the map so that it can be restored to native americans? Then he can move on to Australia, next he'll go to Canada, etc., etc.

My neighbor's fence is a few feet over my property line. Maybe the iranian pres will call for his being wiped off the map also. Oh wait, I've got to give my land back to the indians, I forgot.

I would also guess that since it's a "fabricated" government he doesn't recognize the UN general assembly votes. So if we go to war with Iran, we can just bypass that whole mess.

Novon, you wouldn't by chance have ANY reason to be biased pro-iranian would you?

 

[novon]

I don't support the Iranian government, infact I would not like anything better than it being replaced by a more moderate one. But I don't support the American government either. In foreign policy, the American government's position has proved to be a disaster and much more dangerous and murderous than any preceived threats that the neocons conjour about their next war escapade. Nor do I believe Israel should do anything but live peacefully where it agreed to and respect the people it displaced instead of occupying more of their land and bombing civilians.

From the interview, I gathered that Ahmadinejad to have some valid points, but he's stuck on past grievences, understandably. I think he's right that the neocon thinktanks miscalculated their strategy, and that this is the era of cultural dialogue. The bullying of other nations through bombs is doomed to faliure, but if we change our stance to a more friendly and constructive one, I think it would create a much better outcome, even if we have to take a risk and be the "bigger man."

Infact, we owe it to the middle east after a century of British/US manipulation and abuse. The current path Bush & Co. are taking has no peaceful outcome in sight.

BTW the whole "wiped off the map" catch phrase is taken out of context and used by the media to villanize our next target, he was referring to Zionism in Israel not Israel itself. Watch the whole interview tonight.

 

[Aimster]

He has no power ... yet the media likes to believe he does (Iranian President).

 

[alchemize]

But his words mirror those of those who do have power in Iran...

 

[jacko49]

Watch out for the insincere so called president who reply to a question with a fake smile... and no substance, changing/avoiding/dodging answers.he's charming like an hyena.the USA should lead for action to stop Iran from obtaining nuclear arms, (regardless of the UN maneuvers)so all the liberal bleeding hearts here ,could call it another day and live another year,and rave like old ladies blah blah blah.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: alchemize
That's quite logical, :roll:. So when is he going to start calling for the US to be wiped off the map so that it can be restored to native americans? Then he can move on to Australia, next he'll go to Canada, etc., etc.

My neighbor's fence is a few feet over my property line. Maybe the iranian pres will call for his being wiped off the map also. Oh wait, I've got to give my land back to the indians, I forgot.

I would also guess that since it's a "fabricated" government he doesn't recognize the UN general assembly votes. So if we go to war with Iran, we can just bypass that whole mess.

Novon, you wouldn't by chance have ANY reason to be biased pro-iranian would you?

Rather poor arguments.

Palestine is within Iran's sphere of influence and the people share alot of cultural similarities. What do native Americans, Canadians, Australians have to do with Iran? why would they be concerned?

Furthermore, those events you are referring to didn't happen by some UN resolution, and they happened during a time in our history when it wasn't considered so bad to take land by force. I would like to think we have evolved since then. Just like we evolved out of performing animal sacrifices on an altar to the Sun God.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: jacko49
Watch out for the insincere so called president who reply to a question with a fake smile... and no substance, changing/avoiding/dodging answers.he's charming like an hyena..

So in other words, he'd make a great politican here in the States ?

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: alchemize
That's quite logical, :roll:. So when is he going to start calling for the US to be wiped off the map so that it can be restored to native americans? Then he can move on to Australia, next he'll go to Canada, etc., etc.

My neighbor's fence is a few feet over my property line. Maybe the iranian pres will call for his being wiped off the map also. Oh wait, I've got to give my land back to the indians, I forgot.

I would also guess that since it's a "fabricated" government he doesn't recognize the UN general assembly votes. So if we go to war with Iran, we can just bypass that whole mess.

Novon, you wouldn't by chance have ANY reason to be biased pro-iranian would you?

Rather poor arguments.

Palestine is within Iran's sphere of influence and the people share alot of cultural similarities. What do native Americans, Canadians, Australians have to do with Iran? why would they be concerned?

Furthermore, those events you are referring to didn't happen by some UN resolution, and they happened during a time in our history when it wasn't considered so bad to take land by force. I would like to think we have evolved since then. Just like we evolved out of performing animal sacrifices on an altar to the Sun God.

My logic was as silly as the presidents. I'm glad you saw that. Unless of course you agree with his logic?

 

[Aimster]

Iran and Palestine have nothing in common.
Persian and Arab culture is not similiar at all.

In fact during the Iran-Iraq War, Palestinians were cheering for Saddam to kick Iran's ass. Chanting death to Iran.
Iran should be supporting Israel for that fact alone.

 

[Moonbeam]

When one looks at another what one sees is generally oneself. This is a question of the Mote and log thingi and the fact that the unknown is defined by projection. The monsters that swim at the end of the earth are those of our own minds.

 

[Polish3d]

Originally posted by: novon
watch all the videos: http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60minutes/main3415.shtml

It was on 60 mintues last night,

Although this is an edited-biased version (Wallace's tone is a little unjournalistic), it conveys Ahmadinejad's message pretty well. Honestly, most of what he says sounds right and he asks some great questions and answers logically. He seems like a genuine guy. What I can't quite understand is the hypocracy of his concern with oppression of people in other countries, and his continued oppression of Iran's internal people (which comes in waves). I guess that he may not have as much power, and the Supreme Counsil really make the decisions, but I'm glad someone is calling out the US/Britian hawks on their ill-concieved plans.

Complete 1.5 hour interview unedited will broadcast on CSPAN tonight @ 8pm ET/PT !!!

Are you serious? I thought it was complete nonsensical bullsh9t

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: alchemize
That's quite logical, :roll:. So when is he going to start calling for the US to be wiped off the map so that it can be restored to native americans? Then he can move on to Australia, next he'll go to Canada, etc., etc.

My neighbor's fence is a few feet over my property line. Maybe the iranian pres will call for his being wiped off the map also. Oh wait, I've got to give my land back to the indians, I forgot.

I would also guess that since it's a "fabricated" government he doesn't recognize the UN general assembly votes. So if we go to war with Iran, we can just bypass that whole mess.

Novon, you wouldn't by chance have ANY reason to be biased pro-iranian would you?

Rather poor arguments.

Palestine is within Iran's sphere of influence and the people share alot of cultural similarities. What do native Americans, Canadians, Australians have to do with Iran? why would they be concerned?

Furthermore, those events you are referring to didn't happen by some UN resolution, and they happened during a time in our history when it wasn't considered so bad to take land by force. I would like to think we have evolved since then. Just like we evolved out of performing animal sacrifices on an altar to the Sun God.

My logic was as silly as the presidents. I'm glad you saw that. Unless of course you agree with his logic?

If you wanted to try and make a comparison to his logic then you failed. You were performing a apples to oranges comarison. Try again

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Iran and Palestine have nothing in common.
Persian and Arab culture is not similiar at all.

nothing in common ? Nothing at ALL ?

You think Persians share more cultural similarities to the Israelis then?

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: Aimster
Iran and Palestine have nothing in common.
Persian and Arab culture is not similiar at all.

nothing in common ? Nothing at ALL ?

You think Persians share more cultural similarities to the Israelis then?

many will like to link Islam with culture. Islam if anything is an Arab influence that was forced on people many years ago.

Islam and culture are two different things IMO.

Persians still carry many parts of their culture that the Arabs could not destroy and even this current Iranian regime cannot destroy no matter how hard they try.

the true Persian culture has nothing to do with the religion that was forced on the Persians by the barbarian Arabs who invaded Persia.

There are tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people in Israel who have origin traced back to Iran, so I would say yes to your question.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: jacko49
Watch out for the insincere so called president who reply to a question with a fake smile... and no substance, changing/avoiding/dodging answers.he's charming like an hyena.

Don't speak so ill of Bush.

 

[novon]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: Aimster
Iran and Palestine have nothing in common.
Persian and Arab culture is not similiar at all.

nothing in common ? Nothing at ALL ?

You think Persians share more cultural similarities to the Israelis then?

I would say so, from first hand experience, it's more like Jews than Arabs

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Genx87
If he is genuine we should take him out now, before he goes nuclear and brings a holocaust to the ME.

His concerns about oppression in other countries is like every other power hungry dictator. It is a good populist stance to get the easily lead to believe you are benign and genuine while they get ready to put the knife in your back.

*cough*OP*cough*

You, like so many other disillusioned members here, do a fine job of playing armchair general, but have no credible plan for action.

How do you propose we "take him out now" genius? Covert assassination? Well that's fine, but I suggest you read up a little on Iran first. The real people in control of the government will still exist, with or without Ahmadinejad, and I guarantee you another hardline president will be elected in his place.

I'm all ears if you or any other member has any solid ideas behind your constant banter.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Originally posted by: Frackal

Originally posted by: novon
watch all the videos: http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60minutes/main3415.shtml

It was on 60 mintues last night,

Although this is an edited-biased version (Wallace's tone is a little unjournalistic), it conveys Ahmadinejad's message pretty well. Honestly, most of what he says sounds right and he asks some great questions and answers logically. He seems like a genuine guy. What I can't quite understand is the hypocracy of his concern with oppression of people in other countries, and his continued oppression of Iran's internal people (which comes in waves). I guess that he may not have as much power, and the Supreme Counsil really make the decisions, but I'm glad someone is calling out the US/Britian hawks on their ill-concieved plans.

Complete 1.5 hour interview unedited will broadcast on CSPAN tonight @ 8pm ET/PT !!!

Are you serious? I thought it was complete nonsensical bullsh9t

Bush was on 60 Minutes . . .

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
When one looks at another what one sees is generally oneself. This is a question of the Mote and log thingi and the fact that the unknown is defined by projection. The monsters that swim at the end of the earth are those of our own minds.

if you can snatch this pebble from my hand grasshopper, then you shall be a man.