Video Editing / Special Effects - ideal processor?

[GridOner]

Hey all,

I'm trying to put together a PC (Win XP) video editing / special effects platform with dual processors. I need something really fast to render all the complex info. It will mostly be 2D stuff without a whole lot of emphasis on the 3D aspect.

Of course i've talked to some of my tech savvy friends about what processors i should get and they all tell me different opinions so i thought i'd take it to this forum to see what all you pros had to say.

Most people i talked with said that AMD would be much faster, for the price, over Pentium and to wait for the 64 bit pentium processor to come out so the high end AMD would drop in price (sometime in Sept?)...any ideas on a appropriate motherboard to accopany the processors too?

My budget is around $1000 for both processors and was hoping for some really high end equip. (2.5ghz - 3ghz each)

Thanks so much for the help!!! - email me up at:
paul@shayufilms.com

 

[Fallengod]

Hardly. All the people who think there is a price diff between amd and intel still are not with it. The cheaper amd vs intel agruement ended like a year ago...Top intel chip is even cheaper than amds top chip... In terms of pretty much everything, intel is far faster. The newer 800fsb cpus blow amd away. Even the 2.4ghz blew the top amd chips away in application, encoding benchmarks. . I do maya, photoshop, flash, director for a living. You want intel. Even if you dont have much money. You can get a $150 2.4ghz 800fsb intel chip that 'can' overclock to 3ghz if wanted. Or maybe a 2.6ghz ($200), 2.8ghz($260) shipped..Buy a Abit IS7($100) or Asus P4P800 deluxe($140) with a 512mb single dimm instead of a kit Kingston HyperX 3200 or 3500 for just another $110(costs more for dual ddr dimms). Video card of your choice. That is a top computer right there for around $450-$600. Im not too familiar with dual proc boards and setups. They are not really worth it in my opinion. 1 proc these days is pretty damn fast.. Hope that helps

 

[GridOner]

Thank you so much!
That clears a lot up for me!

 

[AnImuS]

There is a difference in price when your buying Intel Xeons over AMD MP CPU's. Which are actual dual proc CPUS.
Single cpu system not much anymore.

Pricewatch:
AMD MP2800-$277
Intel Xeon 2.8GHZ-$438
Intel Xeon 3GHZ-$669
AMD MP MPX Chipset(Latest) average $200 and below
Intel Xeons MB- $300-$600+

if you want Intel dual procs that are up to update its gonna get very expensive.
You can also go the route of buying Amd XP cpus and modifiying them into MP CPUs. Which i have done myself. Previously i had running 2x AMD 1700's modified to MP2800's. Then i switched to my current rig below. Intel wont have a 64bit proc for a long time. AMD64 will be out in september. $1000 Your best bet would be to get XP Tbred B or Barton XP cpus and modifiy them both can easily overclock(aslong as you dont get a crappy cpu) 2600+ - 3000+ speed...
Best AMD dual mobo is the MSI K7D-L Series...

 

[orion7144]

Originally posted by: AnImuS
There is a difference in price when your buying Intel Xeons over AMD MP CPU's. Which are actual dual proc CPUS.
Single cpu system not much anymore.

Pricewatch:
AMD MP2800-$277
Intel Xeon 2.8GHZ-$438
Intel Xeon 3GHZ-$669
AMD MP MPX Chipset(Latest) average $200 and below
Intel Xeons MB- $300-$600+

if you want Intel dual procs that are up to update its gonna get very expensive.
You can also go the route of buying Amd XP cpus and modifiying them into MP CPUs. Which i have done myself. Previously i had running 2x AMD 1700's modified to MP2800's. Then i switched to my current rig below. Intel wont have a 64bit proc for a long time. AMD64 will be out in september. $1000 Your best bet would be to get XP Tbred B or Barton XP cpus and modifiy them both can easily overclock(aslong as you dont get a crappy cpu) 2600+ - 3000+ speed...
Best AMD dual mobo is the MSI K7D-L Series...

You must not be keeping up on the news.

Intel anounces 64bit processors

 

[AnImuS]

Originally posted by: orion7144

Originally posted by: AnImuS
There is a difference in price when your buying Intel Xeons over AMD MP CPU's. Which are actual dual proc CPUS.
Single cpu system not much anymore.

Pricewatch:
AMD MP2800-$277
Intel Xeon 2.8GHZ-$438
Intel Xeon 3GHZ-$669
AMD MP MPX Chipset(Latest) average $200 and below
Intel Xeons MB- $300-$600+

if you want Intel dual procs that are up to update its gonna get very expensive.
You can also go the route of buying Amd XP cpus and modifiying them into MP CPUs. Which i have done myself. Previously i had running 2x AMD 1700's modified to MP2800's. Then i switched to my current rig below. Intel wont have a 64bit proc for a long time. AMD64 will be out in september. $1000 Your best bet would be to get XP Tbred B or Barton XP cpus and modifiy them both can easily overclock(aslong as you dont get a crappy cpu) 2600+ - 3000+ speed...
Best AMD dual mobo is the MSI K7D-L Series...

You must not be keeping up on the news.

Intel anounces 64bit processors

"At a June 30 product launch conference in Taipei, Intel announced the release of 64-bit 1.4GHz and 1.5GHz Itanium 2 processors, targeting the high-priced, back-end server market"

"Huang, but it may take until 2005 for Itanium 2 servers to become mainstream in the market. However, Intel will continue to introduce better 32-bit Xeon processors to satisfy customers? needs for lower cost servers, said Huang."

Ok use what common sense you have. were talking about AFFORDABLE CPU systems. The Itaniums are expensive as hell. Theres no way hes gonna get an Itanium CPU system. I said AMD64 because its a desktop processor thats affordable. Intel will release the (yamhill) IIRC to compete with AMD 64bit desktop processor. It would of been POINTLESS to tell him to get an Itanium system with 1000bucks...

 

[GridOner]

Do you guys think hyperthreading would be of any benefit for video processing at all?
Just read the article on the Intel HT 3.06ghz processor.

Thank you so much for all the advice!

 

[Fallengod]

Originally posted by: GridOner
Do you guys think hyperthreading would be of any benefit for video processing at all?
Just read the article on the Intel HT 3.06ghz processor.

Thank you so much for all the advice!

As soon as more things have support for it yes. I think Maya supports it? I believe in 4.5 maybe. I think premiere might also. And, dont buy the 3.06ghz...you want the 800fsb one. Personaly id get a 2.6 or 2.8. 3ghz is a little high priced, its not worth the $150 price difference at all...Especially when a 2.4 costs $150 or so and OC's to over 3ghz, same as 2.6.

 

[GridOner]

Yeah, didnt really factor in the compatibility issue, i just assumed that if XP Professional supported it, it'd be fine.
Plus the massive price.
Plus i could easily OC a lower ghz up to 3ghz anyways.

I was also looking at the ATI Radeon 9700 for vid card...overkill?

 

[Doh!]

Yes, since you said you'll be doing mostly the 2D stuff but if you can afford it, why not? It will be a great card when you're taking a break from work.

 

[GridOner]

Alright, I want dual procs for sure because my sofware takes strong advantage of the duals (much more than HT)...so i'm thinkin that the Xeons are pretty pricey and to go with AMD. Is there any way to get dual AMD 2800s or so with very high FSB? The most i've seen (FSB) on AMDs is 533. I'm not real up to speed on these things, just read a few articles.
What do you guys think?