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Originally posted by: Pikachu
Not having to start from scratch with each model allows carmakers to spend money and be creative with what goes on top of these standardized platforms, offering consumers myriad choices among cars that otherwise might not have been made.

Since the first gas crunch, when the Japanese econoboxes hit our shores, they've been getting bigger, and bigger, and BIGGER! They have ZERO retro machines that anyone would want, so that issue is moot. Germany had the bug, and then there's the Mini Cooper, which at least have some kind of following.

Like I said, not everybody has a ridiculous commute, so they're more than happy to grab a real muscle car, at a fair price. God knows it's way overdue!
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Not really sure what you're going on about... you seem to talk as though the choice is either a ludicrous muscle car or a civic. There are other vehicles!

There's the elise: small, efficient and goes around corners!(OMG!!!1!!one!!)
For some more cash you've got the exige version (which, btw, is quicker than a Corvette).

What about the MX5? Same score, but a jap jap vehicle.

You could go a little more sensible and go for the RX8

All of the above are small or mid-sized vehicles that are plenty fast, but also pretty efficient. They're not 'econoboxes', however.

If you want a muscle powered, naturally aspirated bute but also the crazy ability to handle well (US cars seems to skip this bit, but then it is quite tricky to master), coupled with some decent styling this side of the millenium (why oh why are american vehicles so nostalgic and cling to the past? Move on, boys) you could even go for the Sagaris. They are a real man's car.

So, in essence, there are nippier, smaller cars out there that consume far less fuel, but I'd put money on them being equally entertaining to drive, if not more so, and there are equivalent 'muscle-engined' cars that are more nimble, modern and clearly better looking.
Why you'd want to go with some archaic design that harks on about old technology (OMG HEMI!) when you could have a decent, fresh vehicle is way beyond me. Is it because the US misses the time when they were on par when it came to vehicle design and technology 😉?
 
Originally posted by: loic2003
Originally posted by: Pikachu
Not having to start from scratch with each model allows carmakers to spend money and be creative with what goes on top of these standardized platforms, offering consumers myriad choices among cars that otherwise might not have been made.

Since the first gas crunch, when the Japanese econoboxes hit our shores, they've been getting bigger, and bigger, and BIGGER! They have ZERO retro machines that anyone would want, so that issue is moot. Germany had the bug, and then there's the Mini Cooper, which at least have some kind of following.

Like I said, not everybody has a ridiculous commute, so they're more than happy to grab a real muscle car, at a fair price. God knows it's way overdue!
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Not really sure what you're going on about... you seem to talk as though the choice is either a ludicrous muscle car or a civic. There are other vehicles!

There's the elise: small, efficient and goes around corners!(OMG!!!1!!one!!)
For some more cash you've got the exige version (which, btw, is quicker than a Corvette).

What about the MX5? Same score, but a jap jap vehicle.

You could go a little more sensible and go for the RX8

All of the above are small or mid-sized vehicles that are plenty fast, but also pretty efficient. They're not 'econoboxes', however.

If you want a muscle powered, naturally aspirated bute but also the crazy ability to handle well (US cars seems to skip this bit, but then it is quite tricky to master), coupled with some decent styling this side of the millenium (why oh why are american vehicles so nostalgic and cling to the past? Move on, boys) you could even go for the Sagaris. They are a real man's car.

So, in essence, there are nippier, smaller cars out there that consume far less fuel, but I'd put money on them being equally entertaining to drive, if not more so, and there are equivalent 'muscle-engined' cars that are more nimble, modern and clearly better looking.
Why you'd want to go with some archaic design that harks on about old technology (OMG HEMI!) when you could have a decent, fresh vehicle is way beyond me. Is it because the US misses the time when they were on par when it came to vehicle design and technology 😉?
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I liked the looks of the Challenger over all those cars you listed.
 
I'm staying on topic, which is: Dodge Challenger

The embodiment of American Muscle for a decent price. Viper and Corvette are too pricey, and two seaters to boot. If you're going to build a RWD, V8 it might as well be retro. The flippin' GTO was a modern, generic looking, bust! The Thunderbird sucked, because it had no balls, and cost a fortune. There was nothing wrong with the "Style" of the 70's Challengers and Cudas, so why not?
 
Originally posted by: sniperruff
even the sebring is based on *gasp* an eclipse platform...
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If you want to be technical about it the current Sebring and Stratus coupes are basicaly re-skinned last generation eclipses. The sedan and convertable models are all Chrysler designed. Granted that underpinnings are over 10 years old in design.
As for the new Sebring, I had read that it was being designed using a re-worked Galant platform, but that may of changed since Mitsubishi's and DC's little falling out.
 
Originally posted by: loic2003
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I liked the looks of the Challenger over all those cars you listed.
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What can I say? Some guys dig fat chicks... 😛
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I gotta say that the Sagaris looks like a hacked up Viper to me.

So....if a Challenger is a 'fat chick'....does that make the Sagaris a 'Fat Trailertrash Chick'??? Just wondering 😛
 
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: Pikachu
Only reason Honda keeps changing, is because they have to keep getting BIGGER. We're already there. with gas at over $3/gallon, i doubt anyone's goal should be building bigger cars with a lower MPG.

Maybe someday they'll build a nice retro Civic! like i said, honda, along with the rest of the world, just isn't too interested in building "new" cars on recycled platforms and the same drivetrain on retro designs. nissan is sharing a lot of stuff between their cars, but at least they keep putting out new designs (whether if it's good or bad ala maxima

More RWD "old chassis" goodness...
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surprise! an old viper chassis and engine!
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um, wrong... the firepower is based on the viper, but uses the 6.1L SRT-8 engine. even though chrysler's cars are based on other car platforms (SLK, neon), the bodies of those vehicles are totally different. the PT cruiser looks nothing like a neon, the crossfire doesnt really strike a connection with the slk350 (at least to me)

edit: and why is it that the 300 sold so much? quite frankly, i haven't seen anything that bold (in terms of vehicle styling) for a foreign MFR who doesn't make the car cost an arm and a leg
 
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: Pikachu
Their econoboxes aren't radical enough, and they can't build something new... yeah, gotcha. :roll:
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guess what, the PT cruiser is based on an old neon platform, a retro design... and the crossfire is based on the old SLK platform. what's your point? thanks for reminding me, but if you take a look at chrysler's current lineup, the only completely new cars with modern designs are minivans. even the sebring is based on *gasp* an eclipse platform...
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What about the new Caliber ?


 
I love how many people can't seem to accept that we all have differences in opinion. Some people like the looks of older cars, some like newer cars, some like small, some like large, some like power, some like economy and on and on and on... there's room for everybody in this world folks! Why people keep getting worked up over this stuff is beyond me. 😛
 
Post a message about a car that will help save Detroit, and the Jap fanbois come out of the closet to whine about it. Probably all cut from the same cloth as the folks who want to see our military and anti-terrorism campaign flounder.
 
I love that car. Most of you aren't even old enough to have seen the days when REAL muscle cars roamed the streets freely. Damn its about time!!!
 
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