Video card shuts off

[Slickone]

I've got a GF4 Ti 4600 that shuts off the display about 2 seconds after booting into Windows. Any idea what's wrong? The fan is working.

 

[Captante]

The last time I had a problem like that it started happening right after I upgraded my video drivers ... made any changes recently?

 

[Slickone]

I previously had a Geforce 2 in it. I manually deleted the driver files I found then removing it from dev mgr first before installing the GF4 .

This card works fine in safe mode. I tried reinstalling new drivers in safe mode, which seemed to install fine, but when I rebooted to regular windows, it still cuts off. Rebooting to safe mode, dev mgr then shows the drivers isn't installed. And I get the new hardware found wizard. Trying to update the driver though Update Driver tab doesn't work. It says it cant install them. But running the nvidia driver setup again (as originally) 'seems' to work OK, although it goes through the process way to quick IMO, and when it's done and asks to reboot, when I go look for the driver files before reboot, they aren't isntalled.

One thing is this is a BX motherboard - Abit BH6 (my test system). Should this card have a problem with a BX chipset?

 

[Slickone]

Any ideas?

 

[Slickone]

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[flexy]

driver installing safe mode sounds weird

Really, start out de-isntalling, driver-cleaner, registry cleaner etc. and install your drivers properly..and then look from there.

Also..do you have some weird bios-options you probaly want to check into ? Also..3rd party programs running in the background ?

 

[Slickone]

Originally posted by: flexy
driver installing safe mode sounds weird

Really, start out de-isntalling, driver-cleaner, registry cleaner etc. and install your drivers properly..and then look from there.

Also..do you have some weird bios-options you probaly want to check into ? Also..3rd party programs running in the background ?

Installing in safe mode is my only choice, because the problem as mentioned.
From what I remember, people used to suggest installing drivers in safe mode anyway.
It's a brand new Win XP installation, so new registry. I deleted the old drivers, as mentioned, which was just one file, nv4.dll I think. Detonator Destroyer didn't find anything. Only card I had installed before this was a Geforce 2.

 

[themisfit610]

Definitely don't install drivers in safe mode. Use safe mode to remove all traces of the driver (through add/remove), use a driver cleaner if you want, and boot up into normal mode using the standard VGA driver. From here you can install updated drivers.

Good luck.

 

[flexy]

slick,

i never heard of installing drivers in safe-mode.tis is absurd In safe mode many devices etc. are not even availabe...so how can you install drivers ?
If you boot in safe mode i assume you only have the generic VGA driver/device available (that's why its called safe mode

Also..manually deleting is not too good (whatever you did there).

Can you re-install windows...assuming its a brand-new install..so it wont be a big deal to do this again. And make sure you got the right drivers, It should defintly work out of the box w/ a new install and normal drivers. I still say it might be something in bios...that "shutting off" is weird.

 

[Slickone]

Originally posted by: themisfit610
Definitely don't install drivers in safe mode. Use safe mode to remove all traces of the driver (through add/remove), use a driver cleaner if you want, and boot up into normal mode using the standard VGA driver. From here you can install updated drivers.

Good luck.

You didn't read well.

 

[Slickone]

Originally posted by: flexy
slick,

i never heard of installing drivers in safe-mode.tis is absurd In safe mode many devices etc. are not even availabe...so how can you install drivers ?
If you boot in safe mode i assume you only have the generic VGA driver/device available (that's why its called safe mode

Also..manually deleting is not too good (whatever you did there).

Can you re-install windows...assuming its a brand-new install..so it wont be a big deal to do this again. And make sure you got the right drivers, It should defintly work out of the box w/ a new install and normal drivers. I still say it might be something in bios...that "shutting off" is weird.

No, it's not absurd. People on AT have mentioned it before. I've read people talking about it several places in the past. Just a quick search I found:
This says Directly from a mfg website.
more or less quote;
" Installing drivers in safe mode avoids background running programs(TSR's)that users cannot easily disabled. If you run into trouble installing in normal mode, boot to SAFE and install drivers"

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The driver to reinstall (either in Windows or in safe mode if it won't boot into Windows) is the second one down here:
and
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Try installing them in safe mode.

The only reason I did so was because, as I've mentioned more than once, I can't boot into Windows normally.
As far as manually deleting the drivers, the guide at tweakguides.com mentions it, which I tried since I had nothing listed in add/remove.

 

[Captante]

Regardless of that link to Tweakguide, I've never once installed drivers in safe mode (out of 1000's of builds) & further since drivers need to recognize the hardware they are being installed with & cannnot do so in safe-mode, I can't see why it would work ... sounds like some bad advice to me.

Try using this program to UNINSTALL in safe mode, then install the new drivers in VGA mode NOT safe mode:

Driver Cleaner Pro *(Used to be free, but now costs $10 & is well worth it)

 

[Slickone]

Originally posted by: Captante
Regardless of that link to Tweakguide, I've never once installed drivers in safe mode (out of 1000's of builds) & further since drivers need to recognize the hardware they are being installed with & cannnot do so in safe-mode, I can't see why it would work ... sounds like some bad advice to me.

Try using this program to UNINSTALL in safe mode, then install the new drivers in VGA mode NOT safe mode:

Driver Cleaner Pro *(Used to be free, but now costs $10 & is well worth it)

How am I going to get to VGA mode?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Which driver set are you using? You should be using some fairly ancient drivers for a card that old. Try Det 12.xx to start with. If the VGA device doesn't have drivers installed, try installing them manually, specifying the location, (look for NV4.INF, or whatever the .inf file is), and then manually select the card, and install them that way.

 

[Slickone]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Which driver set are you using? You should be using some fairly ancient drivers for a card that old. Try Det 12.xx to start with. If the VGA device doesn't have drivers installed, try installing them manually, specifying the location, (look for NV4.INF, or whatever the .inf file is), and then manually select the card, and install them that way.

I tried 30.82. Those were released not too long after the GF4 Ti cards came out in April 2002, which I thought would be ideal. And many people used that set. The 12.xx Dets would be even before the GF4 cards were out.

 

[Slickone]

Are these cards just picky sometimes about what systems they work with? Is there a reason it shouldn't work on an Abit BH6 (440BX)?
And if it fits in the slot, there should be no voltage incompatibilities, correct?

Another person told me their 4800SE is picky and will only work in his ECS nForce 3. He tried 2 Shuttles, an MSI, and an ECS nForce 2 mobo and it wouldnt work in any of these.

I was planning to use it in a Shuttle AN35N ultra (nforce2) system, but it's not built yet. The BH6 was just a test system.

I did find this:

One practical matter which must be considered is the fact that some of the original AGP 1.0 motherboards do not provide enough power to operate some newer AGP video cards reliably. For example, some of the original motherboards using the first chipsets which supported AGP (like the Intel 440LX and 440BX) can become unstable if you install video cards which draw lots of power through the AGP slot. The motherboards can't always supply the necessary current for the newer video cards. So if you're adding a video card to an AGP 1.0 motherboard then it's a good idea to install a video card which doesn't consume very much power.

 

[Slickone]

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