Video card recomendition

Greenman

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My Radeon 4850 seems to be having some rendering issues with Chief Architect (3d cad). I quite honestly don't want to spend the next 2 days figuring out what the unbelievable array of numbers, letters, shader's, pipes, pixelizers, and photon torpedoes means. So the easy question is, what would give roughly 50% more performance than what I have? Even 25% would do the trick if it would save me some cash (I'm cheap). It doesn't have to be the latest and greatest, just better.

Computer is an MSI board with an AMD Phenom II x4 955 cpu and 8 gigs of memory, running Win 7.

I appreciate your time.

Edit: Forgot to mention that I'm running a 450 watt Antec psu with a huge assortment of unused plugs hanging out of it. I assume that it will supply whatever power I need.
 
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tweakboy

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With CAD , 16GB of RAM

Games. 8GB RAM

Are you ready to go from ground up. Youll first need a new motherboard , Are you planning on AMD or Intel ? and fill in your sig,,, Ill help you take care of it..
 

DooKey

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An R9 270 would be a good choice as well. If you like AMD then you could stick with it and get a bit better performance in some games. If you want newer, cooler, lower power for close to the same performance then the 750ti is a good choice. You won't go wrong with either card.
 

Mand

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The correct response is:

How much do you want to pay? Then pay that to buy something.

Anything above $100 is going to be a pretty substantial upgrade. Don't go below 100 though.
 

Greenman

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The 770 for hundred bucks gets my attention, but I'll look at everything you fellows have recommended.

Thank you gentlemen.
 

Topweasel

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Radeon 265 at minimum (under-clocked 7750) or a 750 TI (with Maxwell power). The varience on the Radeon side means every pricing bracket is covered. The performance varience from a 260-270x is pretty high, but only $80 price difference and 5 different cards.

Anyways the 260 (7750) is about as fast as a 5850 which was 30-40% faster than a 4870. A 270 is about as fast as a 6950 which was 25-30% faster than a 5850. So a 270 at $150 would be about 80% faster than a 4850

In real world I think the difference between the 260 and 4850 will be even larger. That said best bang and being more than 50% faster would in my eyes would be the 265. The 750 Ti is the closest Nvidia card, but overall it slower than the 265.
 

Leyawiin

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I recently set up from old parts an X4 955 BE with a GTX 460 for my sister's kid and it works just fine with an Antec Basiq 450W. You should be able to run any current lower mid-range card without issue with that power supply.

R9 270 is a good choice.
 

RussianSensation

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My Radeon 4850 seems to be having some rendering issues with Chief Architect (3d cad). I quite honestly don't want to spend the next 2 days figuring out what the unbelievable array of numbers, letters, shader's, pipes, pixelizers, and photon torpedoes means. So the easy question is, what would give roughly 50% more performance than what I have? Even 25% would do the trick if it would save me some cash (I'm cheap). It doesn't have to be the latest and greatest, just better.

Computer is an MSI board with an AMD Phenom II x4 955 cpu and 8 gigs of memory, running Win 7.

I appreciate your time.

Edit: Forgot to mention that I'm running a 450 watt Antec psu with a huge assortment of unused plugs hanging out of it. I assume that it will supply whatever power I need.

I tried find benches of this specific software but can't seem to be able to do so. Still think that for 3D CAD, you'd benefit from a FirePro card compared to a standard gaming card.

V3900 is $115 on Newegg.
http://www.develop3d.com/hardware/amd-firepro-v3900-v4900

You'll have to do more research between NV/AMD and gaming vs. pro cards to see what architecture/type of card benefits the most for this program, otherwise you could spend $100 for nothing.
 
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Greenman

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I tried find benches of this specific software but can't seem to be able to do so. Still think that for 3D CAD, you'd benefit from a FirePro card compared to a standard gaming card.

V3900 is $115 on Newegg.
http://www.develop3d.com/hardware/amd-firepro-v3900-v4900

You'll have to do more research between NV/AMD and gaming vs. pro cards to see what architecture/type of card benefits the most for this program, otherwise you could spend $100 for nothing.

Apparently, if a card works well for games it will be just fine for chief. The only time it will really choke out is doing ray tracing, and I almost never need photo realistic renderings. I think I've done it once in the last ten years. The issues I'm having are minor glitches in 3d views. I thought it might be a driver issue, but mine are all up to date.
Price is a big issue right now because I have a lot of stuff on my plate that requires a big chunk of capital.
 

3DVagabond

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Radeon 265 at minimum (under-clocked 7750) or a 750 TI (with Maxwell power). The varience on the Radeon side means every pricing bracket is covered. The performance varience from a 260-270x is pretty high, but only $80 price difference and 5 different cards.

Anyways the 260 (7750) is about as fast as a 5850 which was 30-40% faster than a 4870. A 270 is about as fast as a 6950 which was 25-30% faster than a 5850. So a 270 at $150 would be about 80% faster than a 4850

In real world I think the difference between the 260 and 4850 will be even larger. That said best bang and being more than 50% faster would in my eyes would be the 265. The 750 Ti is the closest Nvidia card, but overall it slower than the 265.

The 265 is the same chip as the 7850 not the 7750. A 265 is more than 2x as fast as the 4850 or 7750.
 

Bateluer

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OP needs to throw up a price. This thread has cards ranging for 100 bucks to cards in the high 200s range. Thats a lot of variance.
 

Topweasel

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The 265 is the same chip as the 7850 not the 7750. A 265 is more than 2x as fast as the 4850 or 7750.

I knew better, don't know why i listed it that way. Though it's not twice as fast, its about 65% faster in per specs and only that much fast under a few DX11 specific titles. Probably more for its small vram amount then anything chip wise.
 

Greenman

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OP needs to throw up a price. This thread has cards ranging for 100 bucks to cards in the high 200s range. Thats a lot of variance.

$150 bucks or less would be fine. It looks like you fellows nailed the budget without knowing what it was.

Thanks for all your help.