Video Card For 17" CRT !

[Revolution]

Please help!
My friend need a GPU for his 17" CRT(1280x1024 @60Hz)
He is confuse between HD4670,9600GT and HD5670.

Rest of the system:
Intel C2D E4500@2.2GHz
XFX 630i Motherboard
2GB DDR2 RAM
250Gb SATA HDD
DVD+RW
ColorsIT 450W PSU(18+19 Amp on 12V rails)


BTW,which is more important CUDA,PhyX or DX11 ?
Thank you.....

 

[happy medium]

Between those 3 ,the hd5670

 

[toyota]

5670 and tell him to use 1280x960 since that is a crt not an lcd. 1280x1024 is a 5:4 aspect ratio and is actually cutting off viewable area.

 

[tweakboy]

What resolution are you using ? Just because its lower resolution doesnt mean you should buy a cheap card. By a fast card 5670 is too budget based. But also I dont know how those cards perform at low resolution.

Basically you have a big advantage thats your resolution nis low soo whatever you get its gonna fly and be fast. Just get a good chip 150 to 200 and youll be happy. I dont know what CPU you using,, also u can upgrade in future possibly.. thats why I ask.... gl

 

[toyota]

What resolution are you using ? Just because its lower resolution doesnt mean you should buy a cheap card. By a fast card 5670 is too budget based. But also I dont know how those cards perform at low resolution.

Basically you have a big advantage thats your resolution nis low soo whatever you get its gonna fly and be fast. Just get a good chip 150 to 200 and youll be happy. I dont know what CPU you using,, also u can upgrade in future possibly.. thats why I ask.... gl

do you ever even read anything besides the title of a thread?

 

[happy medium]

5670 and tell him to use 1280x960 since that is a crt not an lcd. 1280x1024 is a 5:4 aspect ratio and is actually cutting off viewable area.

? I've been using 1280x1024 since I had my 19 inch crt in 2002. It's the monitors native recommended resolution.

 

[edplayer]

... and is actually cutting off viewable area.

what?

 

[toyota]

? I've been using 1280x1024 since I had my 19 inch crt in 2002. It's the monitors native recommended resolution.

why? 1280x960 is the proper res to use on a crt. using 1280x1024, which is a 5:4 aspect ratio cuts off some of the fov for gaming. you are seeing LESS on the screen in games than using 1280x960.

 

[toyota]

what?

do you really not know that a 5:4 res cuts off the fov of view for games? 4:3 is slightly wider just like 16:9 is slightly wider than 16:10. you would not run a 16:10 res on a 16:9 monitor now would you?

 

[edplayer]

oh yeah, forgot about fov

Guess its up to the game though. If they offer both, than 1280x960

 

[Fox5]

A CRT? Definitely a voodoo 3, agp version if you can find it.

 

[happy medium]

why? 1280x960 is the proper res to use on a crt. using 1280x1024, which is a 5:4 aspect ratio cuts off some of the fov for gaming. you are seeing LESS on the screen in games than using 1280x960.

If the games I play support it, I'll give it a try. Thanks

Edit: why don't review sites use it? 1280x960.

 

[Fox5]

If the games I play support it, I'll give it a try. Thanks

Edit: why don't review sites use it? 1280x960.

It's a 4:3 resolution, most square LCD monitors are 5:4, which is 1280x1024.
No one uses crts anymore!

 

[happy medium]

It's a 4:3 resolution, most square LCD monitors are 5:4, which is 1280x1024.
No one uses crts anymore!

I do and I use it at 1600x1200 @ 75 refresh rate. Nothing wrong with that.
It's a Trinitron and still has a nice picture.
If I wanna play on a bigger screen I just play on the 37" LCD tv or my 375 lb. super Sony 40 inch HD 1080i CRT tv.

 

[betasub]

I do and I use it at 1600x1200 @ 75 refresh rate. Nothing wrong with that.

This for a decent 19" CRT.

But OP is talking about a "17" CRT(1280x1024 @60Hz)" - 60Hz CRT, eww, eye-strain
Old 17" CRT (4:3 resolutions) are likely to deliver 1152x864 (75Hz) or 1024x768 (85Hz) with less flicker.

 

[therealnickdanger]

That always annoys me when people run CRTs at 60Hz... can you not notice the flicker? I use a 1080p LCD for my everyday computer, but I switch over to my Sony GDM-FW900 24" CRT for gaming. I can push it up to 2300x1440 if I need to, but I typically run it at 1920x1200@140Hz. Unlike LCDs (limited to 60Hz), I can play my games at over 60fps and actually see the difference!

I picked it up used for $200 off craigslist.

 

[betasub]

Now that's some CRT! Who paid for delivery (& a forklift!)?

Did it come with its own stand, or do you have a re-inforced desk/table to hold it?

 

[happy medium]

That always annoys me when people run CRTs at 60Hz... can you not notice the flicker? I use a 1080p LCD for my everyday computer, but I switch over to my Sony GDM-FW900 24" CRT for gaming. I can push it up to 2300x1440 if I need to, but I typically run it at 1920x1200@140Hz. Unlike LCDs (limited to 60Hz), I can play my games at over 60fps and actually see the difference!

I picked it up used for $200 off craigslist.

Thats the monitor I want, but I can't find them for around 300$ in the area.
Shipping is another 100$

Yes, I hate the flicker @ 60hz. I keep my 19 inch crt at 85hz when possible.

 

[v8envy]

At that resolution go for the cheapest one.

Neither DX11 nor Cuda nor PhysX will matter with cards that low on the food chain. The few titles using GPU accelerated PhysX can choke high end cards with it enabled, entry level boards have no chance. Ditto DX11 for the ATI side.

 

[Revolution]

At that resolution go for the cheapest one.

Neither DX11 nor Cuda nor PhysX will matter with cards that low on the food chain. The few titles using GPU accelerated PhysX can choke high end cards with it enabled, entry level boards have no chance. Ditto DX11 for the ATI side.

You mean HD 4670 is more that enough for that system ?
And PhysX or DX11 doesn't matter for low end GPU ?

 

[0roo0roo]

depends, if he wants fsaa and aniscopy he shouldn't cheap out.
even at 1024x1280 it can get dodgy on a 9600 or 4670

as for fov, what is he talking about, the default is 90 or something. you can even alter it manually in team fortress 2 etc.

 

[toyota]

depends, if he wants fsaa and aniscopy he shouldn't cheap out.
even at 1024x1280 it can get dodgy on a 9600 or 4670

as for fov, what is he talking about, the default is 90 or something. you can even alter it manually in team fortress 2 etc.

if someone is playing on a 17inch crt then I doubt IQ is at top the top their priority list.

there is no reason to run 1280x1024 on a monitor other than those 17 and 19 inch lcds where that was the native res. for a crt running a 4:3 res like 1280x960 makes much more sense and lets you see a little bit more on the sides for gaming.

really though he has a monitor that only supports 60hz above 1024x768 so he might as well stick to that unless he is immune to flickering.

 

[kylebisme]

even at 1024x1280 it can get dodgy on a 9600 or 4670

Sure, but if you are going to be setting the monitor on it's side like that, you might as well have low framerate too just to further add to the challenge.

for a crt running a 4:3 res like 1280x960 makes much more sense and lets you see a little bit more on the sides for gaming.

Or even on desktop, unless you adjust the monitor to where it has black bars on the sides to mat the 5:4 resolution on a 4:3 monitor, everything will look a little tall and skinny compared to what it should, turning what should be circles into ovals and the like.

 

[Revolution]

The monitor is 17" Samsung SyncMaster 793s.....

 

[0roo0roo]

if someone is playing on a 17inch crt then I doubt IQ is at top the top their priority list.

there is no reason to run 1280x1024 on a monitor other than those 17 and 19 inch lcds where that was the native res. for a crt running a 4:3 res like 1280x960 makes much more sense and lets you see a little bit more on the sides for gaming.

really though he has a monitor that only supports 60hz above 1024x768 so he might as well stick to that unless he is immune to flickering.

you do get a smoother image at 1280x1024 on a crt. though at 17" the sweet spot would be 1152x768. desktop and video/game are different on crt since tiny text tends not to be much of an issue in games. its a mismatch regardless. but once you get to turn of fsaa, turning it off feels wrong.

looking at it again, seems he runs that at 60hz. he just needs to buy a new freakin screen. 60hz on a crt is torture.