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imported_jazzie142

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Motherboard: GigabyteGA-8knxp Rev. 1x
Processor: Pentium 2.8 GHz
Sound card: Sound blaster audigy gamer
Memory: 1 GHz DDR pc3200
Video card: ATI 9600 Pro


I want to upgrade my video card but my motherboard only supports APG 8x. I have bought two video cards in one year. It?s seems that every time a new game comes out that I want to play I have to buy a new video card. I am really sick of buying video cards.

The best video card that I found (because I don?t know what I am doing) is Radeon x800xl 256 APG.

Would I be better off upgrading the motherboard to a board that offers PCI express and buying the Radeon x1900 or just upgrading the video card that I have now to the Radeon x800xl?

Is there a better video card for this motherboard?


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LW07

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The X800XL would be a good upgrade. How much are you paying for it?
 
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ciproxr

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299 is too much , i got it from compusa for 200 bucks on sale, u can still get it for 250 i think right now
 
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LW07

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If he's paying $300, he should get that 7800GS Superclock. It is significantly faster than a radeon X800XL. Someone on a newegg review said that the 7800GS superclock made a huge difference from his 9600pro, so I would go with the 7800GS. It has Shader Model 3.0 and Transparancy Antialiasing, a feature you'll only find in Geforce 7 cards.
 
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Originally posted by: LW07
If he's paying $300, he should get that 7800GS Superclock. It is significantly faster than a radeon X800XL. Someone on a newegg review said that the 7800GS superclock made a huge difference from his 9600pro, so I would go with the 7800GS. It has Shader Model 3.0 and Transparancy Antialiasing, a feature you'll only find in Geforce 7 cards.
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anybody can write anything on newegg...i would take their advice with a grain of salt. imo $200 is the sweet spot. i would look for a used x800xt/x800xtpe/x850xtpe. going a 7800GS is a total waste and insulting when you consider it is not as good as a 7800GT but more expensive.


 
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LW07

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But if he's paying $300 for a X800XL, he should be able to pay $20 and get something significantly faster. Also, newegg tightly regulates their reviews, so you can't just go up and say that a certain product gave you a boost without owning it. They check for signs that you're saying a bunch of crap.

Here's a good benchmark that proves the 7800GS's greatness: http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/evg...800_gs_co_superclock_review/page18.asp
 
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bob4432

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Originally posted by: LW07
But if he's paying $300 for a X800XL, he should be able to pay $20 and get something significantly faster. Also, newegg tightly regulates their reviews, so you can't just go up and say that a certain product gave you a boost without owning it. They check for signs that you're saying a bunch of crap.

Here's a good benchmark that proves the 7800GS's greatness: http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/evg...800_gs_co_superclock_review/page18.asp
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he shouldn't pay $300, that is what i said, he should pay at most $200.

newegg reviews are not the "bomb" and neither is the 7800GS. at stock speeds it is just a bit faster than the x800xt/x850xt series.
 
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imported_jazzie142

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Both cards Radeon x800xl 256 APG and Geforce 7800GS are the same price for me ($249.00) I am using my rewards at Circuit City for a $50.00 discount.
 
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LW07

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You have to run driver cleaner(Download here: http://www.drivercleaner.net/professional.html) and uninstall your ATI Drivers using control panal first. Then you go into driver cleaner and have it clean all of your ATI display drivers(google that information up) 2 times to make sure ALL residue is gone(or you'll face instability problems) and then install your Geforce card and then go and download the latest drivers.
 
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Yeah definitely get the 7800GS if it's the same price as the X800XL, as their not even in the same league. (X850XT PE is more on par with the GS)
 
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i would agree to to get the 7800GS since they are the same price and you are not going to upgrade.

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i just am kind of p!ssed at nvidia atm because the agp bus could handle the 7800GT/GTX and probably 7800GTX 512 bandwidth needs and are instead offering this neurtered card that is equal to ati cards that are 1.2-1.5 yrs old....
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bob4432

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for ~$500 you could go a 7800GT/mb/skt939 cpu......

keep your same ram, be better off in the long run...
 
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imported_jazzie142

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I'm still at it.

Just a little confused. The game that I am upgrading for is The Elderscrolls Oblivion. The GeForce 7800GS is listed as a recommended video card but it is listed three times and it looks like there are serval 7800 GS cards.

High end video cards:
GeForce 7800GS (stock clock; 375MHz core)
GeForce 7800GS (overclocked version; 400-430MHz core)

Under super high end video cards:
GeForce 7800GS (superclock version; 460MHz core, 1350MHz memory)

This is the card I am thinking about buy if it is the right one eVGA e-GeForce? 7800 GS Video Card (256-A8-N506)
listed at circuitcity.com.

Could someone tell me if this is one of the recommend cards and which one it is?

Thanks
 
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bob4432

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Originally posted by: jazzie142
I'm still at it.

Just a little confused. The game that I am upgrading for is The Elderscrolls Oblivion. The GeForce 7800GS is listed as a recommended video card but it is listed three times and it looks like there are serval 7800 GS cards.

High end video cards:
GeForce 7800GS (stock clock; 375MHz core)
GeForce 7800GS (overclocked version; 400-430MHz core)

Under super high end video cards:
GeForce 7800GS (superclock version; 460MHz core, 1350MHz memory)

This is the card I am thinking about buy if it is the right one eVGA e-GeForce? 7800 GS Video Card (256-A8-N506)
listed at circuitcity.com.

Could someone tell me if this is one of the recommend cards and which one it is?

Thanks
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i would go to their forums and ask what other run gpu wise. the problem is that it says it supports many different cards and its recommendations are:
* 3 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor
* 1 GB System RAM
* ATI X800 series, NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series, or higher video card

the problem is that the ati x800 series has at least 4 cards in it and the 6800 has about the same. if you go the 7800gs you would be a little higher than a 6800ultra or x850xt (approximately).

at this point anything you do will be better than the 9600pro you are using now if that helps.

the 7800gs will be good but i don't know for how long, and then you paid $250 for a agp card and the next upgrade you will definately need pci-e, that is why i suggested possibly doing the upgrade now if you possibly can. evga has a deal where you can get a 7800gt and nf4 sli m/b combo for ~$350, then throw in another $200 for a cpu and you are at $550, which is not too bad, imo. the nice thing is that you could possibly, if the game supports it which it should but i don't know sh!t about rpgs, do sli in the future for just another 7800gt, which in a year they will be pretty cheap. normally i don't suggest sli but the 2x7800gts are a killer deal.
 
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