Video - Black woman uses profanity to extremes in front of toddler at McDonald's

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ShawnD1

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How is it hard? You risk getting punched in the face saying hi to random people in the street as well. Just give back the money and be done with it. Giving her the food just reinforces that what she did was ok.

If she still acts like a retard when she's a fully grown adult, then it's pretty clear her brain is completely broken and incapable of learning anything. If you refuse to serve her, she'll keep freaking out, refuse to leave, make a huge scene, and it drives customers away while this is going on.

When I worked at McDonalds, I had to deal with retarded drunks on the weekend. They will walk up to the drive through window and they won't leave until you serve them. The cars behind them obviously don't want to ram them and get thrown in jail, you can't physically assault them, and the police don't come because the police seem to be either retarded or they just don't care when people are trespassing. Serving them was the only way to get them to leave.

There was one time I suggested bringing bear mace just to use it on people who walk through the drive through. That idea was shot down because the camera looks directly at the drive through window and there would be video evidence of assaulting the people trespassing. Fucking bullshit laws don't protect private property at all. We should have the right to beat the fuck out of people who refuse to leave, put their hand in the boiling oil, then throw them in the freezer with no shoes or socks until they get frostbite and need to have their toes amputated.
/pissed off
 

tcsenter

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It's not always that easy. gamestop employee punched in the face (a customer is angry because a game he reserved is not in stock. the employee gives his money back. guy punches employee in the face)
I would sooo be willing to take a punch in the face in exchange for the opportunity to see an asshat arrested, prosecuted, banned from the store forever, and then pay me money in a civil suit? That's all kinds of worth it.
 

child of wonder

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partially this

she isnt a representative for all colored people

thats a bunch of bullshit

I didn't say she is.

I said she is reinforcing existing negative stereotypes.

If people could simply be decent to one another there wouldn't be any stereotypes at all.
 

LumbergTech

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I didn't say she is.

I said she is reinforcing existing negative stereotypes.

If people could simply be decent to one another there wouldn't be any stereotypes at all.

Maybe I am misunderstanding, but you seem to be saying that the stereotype is legitimate by that logic.
 

Narmer

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I didn't say she is.

I said she is reinforcing existing negative stereotypes.

If people could simply be decent to one another there wouldn't be any stereotypes at all.

If "she is reinforcing existing negative stereotypes" does that mean you come to expect such behavior from blacks? Is the problem only her or does that include you, you know, people that pre-judge other people?
 

Zebo

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I would sooo be willing to take a punch in the face in exchange for the opportunity to see an asshat arrested, prosecuted, banned from the store forever, and then pay me money in a civil suit? That's all kinds of worth it.

Would be way more fun to retaliate in kind. You ever seen red before?

Course I think we all know the gangster picked on pencil neck geek as he posed no threat and would not pick on anyone his size or bigger or meaner.... typical bully.
 
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child of wonder

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Maybe I am misunderstanding, but you seem to be saying that the stereotype is legitimate by that logic.

All I am saying is that stereotypes exist, some people adhere to those stereotypes, and she is reinforcing their belief in those stereotypes through her behavior and that this injures other people of color because those stereotypes are reinforced.

That's all.
 

child of wonder

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If "she is reinforcing existing negative stereotypes" does that mean you come to expect such behavior from blacks? Is the problem only her or does that include you, you know, people that pre-judge other people?

lol

You are trying SO hard to paint me as a racist when I have said repeatedly that her skin color DOES NOT MATTER. I do not adhere to these stereotypes and the only behavior I expect out of someone is to try their best to follow the golden rule and be civil to one another.

I am not pre-judging her at all. Her behavior speaks for itself. She is trash. I would say the same thing if she was white, Asian, Indian, Eskimo, Hispanic, etc.

IMO the only one, in terms of our conversation, that's hung up on race is you. I couldn't care less about the color of someone's skin.
 

Narmer

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lol

You are trying SO hard to paint me as a racist when I have said repeatedly that her skin color DOES NOT MATTER. I do not adhere to these stereotypes and the only behavior I expect out of someone is to try their best to follow the golden rule and be civil to one another.

I am not pre-judging her at all. Her behavior speaks for itself. She is trash. I would say the same thing if she was white, Asian, Indian, Eskimo, Hispanic, etc.

IMO the only one, in terms of our conversation, that's hung up on race is you. I couldn't care less about the color of someone's skin.

You are the one instructing her not to perpetuate a certain stereotype. You are implying that, by reinforcing that stereotype, she makes ALL blacks look bad. That is the problem I have with you or your statement. What others are trying to say here is that her behavior should have nothing to do with those of anyone else. You are saying that her behavior was stereotypical. You may not think you're a racist just like people who say they're not racist because they have black friends but you show the signs. All you had to do was concentrate your attack on her rather than talk about any wider (dumb, IMHO) implications about what her actions meant. Your statement is doubly dumb considering that there were other black people there who did not act like that. In your mind she probably embarrassed them, right?
 

child of wonder

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You are the one instructing her not to perpetuate a certain stereotype. You are implying that, by reinforcing that stereotype, she makes ALL blacks look bad. That is the problem I have with you or your statement. What others are trying to say here is that her behavior should have nothing to do with those of anyone else. You are saying that her behavior was stereotypical. You may not think you're a racist just like people who say they're not racist because they have black friends but you show the signs. All you had to do was concentrate your attack on her rather than talk about any wider (dumb, IMHO) implications about what her actions meant. Your statement is doubly dumb considering that there were other black people there who did not act like that. In your mind she probably embarrassed them, right?

I'm not instructing her not to perpetuate a certain stereotype. I'm saying it is an unintended consequence of her behavior. People should be decent to each other and let the chips fall where they may.

I'm not saying her behavior makes all blacks look bad, I'm saying some will use her behavior to reinforce their own prejudice and use that prejudice, in turn, to further discriminate or hate other blacks. That is an unintended consequence of her behavior and is unfortunate because her behavior is NOT indicative of all blacks nor should it be.

Again, you want so badly for me to be a racist. You are the one focusing on skin color, not me. To assert there are no wider implications of her behavior as it is spread like wildfire over the internet is naive.

If we could interview the other people in the video (of any color) and ask them if they felt her behavior was embarrassing I think we'd hear a resounding "yes."

But, perhaps, you've found me out. When I call out my father for making racist comments I'm really being a closet racist! When I teach my children that skin color is no different than hair color or eye color I'm really being a closet racist!

Since you found me out I suppose I'll go put my white hood back on and continue burning crosses.
 

classy

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All I am saying is that stereotypes exist, some people adhere to those stereotypes, and she is reinforcing their belief in those stereotypes through her behavior and that this injures other people of color because those stereotypes are reinforced.

That's all.

People cuss. People of all colors cuss, are rude, lose their temper, and can be ignorant. That is not a steretype of one race or another. Is this black woman the only person ever to caught on tape being fouled mouth? Is it only black people that have been caught on tape behaving like this? Stereotypes are tied to specific race. So unless her behavior in this video is unique only to black people, then how is she reinforcing a stereotype?

That is all
 

JD50

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People cuss. People of all colors cuss, are rude, lose their temper, and can be ignorant. That is not a steretype of one race or another. Is this black woman the only person ever to caught on tape being fouled mouth? Is it only black people that have been caught on tape behaving like this? Stereotypes are tied to specific race. So unless her behavior in this video is unique only to black people, then how is she reinforcing a stereotype?

That is all

Are you seriously denying that this negative stereotype exists?
 

Pliablemoose

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Are you seriously denying that this negative stereotype exists?

Yeah, this.

classy, you're obviously an intelligent, thoughtful person of color, but you have to have a huge blind spot to say this isn't reinforcing a widely held stereotype.
 

eits

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That's a stupid comment. You have it backwards. This is ONE woman that is not representative of African-Americans. If MLK was alive he would want her to be criticized ON THE CONTENT OF HER CHARACTER, not on the fact that she's black. He didn't die so that all blacks could be good role models. He died so that blacks could be judged WITHOUT their skin color being a factor. I seriously doubt he would be "rolling in his grave". If anything, he'd be sad that people like you are still out there judging people based on their race.

lol wtf?

i'm not judging on race. i'm judging her by her character. i'm saying that it's a shame that black people don't care how they act and ruin it for their race. stereotypes and prejudice doesn't come from nowhere and mlk knew that... that's why he was trying to get black people to straighten up and act right as well as tell white people that blacks shouldn't be judged by the color of their skin, but by how they act.

read some of the things he's written and listen to some of his speeches. you can download them on itunes.
 

Narmer

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I'm not instructing her not to perpetuate a certain stereotype. I'm saying it is an unintended consequence of her behavior. People should be decent to each other and let the chips fall where they may.

I'm not saying her behavior makes all blacks look bad, I'm saying some will use her behavior to reinforce their own prejudice and use that prejudice, in turn, to further discriminate or hate other blacks. That is an unintended consequence of her behavior and is unfortunate because her behavior is NOT indicative of all blacks nor should it be.

Again, you want so badly for me to be a racist. You are the one focusing on skin color, not me. To assert there are no wider implications of her behavior as it is spread like wildfire over the internet is naive.

If we could interview the other people in the video (of any color) and ask them if they felt her behavior was embarrassing I think we'd hear a resounding "yes."

But, perhaps, you've found me out. When I call out my father for making racist comments I'm really being a closet racist! When I teach my children that skin color is no different than hair color or eye color I'm really being a closet racist!

Since you found me out I suppose I'll go put my white hood back on and continue burning crosses.

You are dumb if you think you'll hear a resounding "Yes". That is your problem. You think one black woman acting out of line is embarrassing for other black people. Also, like I said earlier, who cares if it reinforces the racism of a racist or uneducated person? Is it one person's job to make another not racist? No, if a person is racist that's their problem.

If you have children I will feel bad for them if you expect them to go out of their way to make bad people less insecure.
 

classy

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Are you seriously denying that this negative stereotype exists?

Not at all. If this was a NAACP gathering or bunch of black dudes on the corner and some stuff like this was going down then something of that nature I would agree is enforcing the negative stereotype. But some single black girl who blows a gasket in a McDonalds is some how a put down for us all? Please. And the strange thing is, in the video that had 3 other black people in it who did nothing at all along this line how come they are not representing a stereotype?

Why is the ignorant black girl the representative, why not the black woman who spoke up to her not a representative. Why not the brother in the rag who stepped up when it looked liked the girl was about to pop the white lady. Hmmm who was he representing? Even the guy with the girl, while he did not say anything he did pull the girl back to try to calm her when it looked like it was about to get physical. But which black got all the focus, the one igrnorant one and subsequently all black people according to many here now get the put down.

So now you tell me? This is par for the course and has been for years here. But guess what, I ain't leaving, till they throw me out on my ass. I am going to post as strong as ever when it comes to this garbage and I don't care how many of these losers I piss off.
 
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JD50

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Not at all. If this was a NAACP gathering or bunch of black dudes on the corner and some stuff like this was going down then something of that nature I would agree is enforcing the negative stereotype. But some single black girl who blows a gasket in a McDonalds is some how a put down for us all? Please. And the strange thing is, in the video that had 3 other black people in it who did nothing at all along this line how come they are representing a stereotype?

Why is the igrnorant black girl the representative, why not the black woman who spoke up to her not a representative. Why not the brother in the rag who step up to when it looked liked the girl was about to pop the white lady. Hmmm who was he representing? Even the guy with the girl, while he did not say anything he did pull the girl back to try to calm her when it looked like it was about to get physical. But which black got all the focus, the one igrnorant one and subsequently all black people according to many here now get the put down.


So now you tell me? This is par for the course and has been for years here. But guess what, I ain't leaving, till they throw me out on my ass. I am going to post as strong as ever when it comes to this garbage and I don't care how many of these losers I piss off.

Yes, that's the way the world works, stop being so obtuse. Negative behavior gets more attention than positive behavior. Kind of like how you ignore the majority of posters on here that aren't racist and focus on the minority that are and then claim that this place is full of racists.
 

classy

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You wanna know what is reinforcing a negative stereotype is. The Million Man March was a damn disgrace. Louis Farrakhan is flatout racist dog. And for so many black men to gather under the umbrella of that pig was a joke. Because all it did was put forth and perpetuate the idea that blackmen were now proud to be racist. It was a shame and actually I lost a friend over it. I haven't spoken to him since because I refused to go.
 

eits

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lol. Why does he have to be at the vanguard to "helping fight black stereotypes"? Because he is black and put the word "white" in there?

all blacks need to be at the vanguard to help fight black stereotypes.

by the way, i'm mixed race, just so you know. i'm half white, half persian. i'm definitely a liberal. i'm not a racist, but i'm not afraid to say when people, when faced with a negative, careless behavior that many in a certain community exhibit which leads to stereotypes, need to start becoming more conscious of it and correct it so that their negative stereotypes can stop.

it's called social self-awareness and it has been used throughout animal evolution to weed out groups that won't assimilate and conform to what is socially acceptable. it's part of why there's an increase in the number of single black women, but a decrease in single black men throughout the decades. it is a big social issue among the black community... tons of books have been written about it. google it if you want.
 

JD50

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You wanna know what is reinforcing a negative stereotype is. The Million Man March was a damn disgrace. Louis Farrakhan is flatout racist dog. And for so many black men to gather under the umbrella of that pig was a joke. Because all it did was put forth and perpetuate the idea that blackmen were now proud to be racist. It was a shame and actually I lost a friend over it. I haven't spoken to him since because I refused to go.

I agree, but that doesn't change the fact that one persons behavior also reinforces negative stereotypes. Obviously it's not right, but unfortunately that's just the way it is.
 

eits

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Yes, that's the way the world works, stop being so obtuse. Negative behavior gets more attention than positive behavior. Kind of like how you ignore the majority of posters on here that aren't racist and focus on the minority that are and then claim that this place is full of racists.

that's sad, but true. i face it constantly as a chiropractor.
 

classy

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Yes, that's the way the world works, stop being so obtuse. Negative behavior gets more attention than positive behavior. Kind of like how you ignore the majority of posters on here that aren't racist and focus on the minority that are and then claim that this place is full of racists.

I will bet anything you ask the posters like myself who have been apart of these forums almost from the beginning and even those that disagree with me will probably admit to the way more race baiting threads now over just 5-6 years ago. Dude you got posters in the dozens who repeatedly take shots at blacks and hispanics. You would get the occasional slobber knocker but nothing like now. Man there was dude who had a damn swastika for an avatar. Are you kidding me? I love many here but I have no problem with slamming those I dislike. And they are all the same, lol, its always the same ones.
 

Narmer

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all blacks need to be at the vanguard to help fight black stereotypes.

by the way, i'm mixed race, just so you know. i'm half white, half persian. i'm definitely a liberal. i'm not a racist, but i'm not afraid to say when people, when faced with a negative, careless behavior that many in a certain community exhibit which leads to stereotypes, need to start becoming more conscious of it and correct it so that their negative stereotypes can stop.

it's called social self-awareness and it has been used throughout animal evolution to weed out groups that won't assimilate and conform to what is socially acceptable. it's part of why there's an increase in the number of single black women, but a decrease in single black men throughout the decades. it is a big social issue among the black community... tons of books have been written about it. google it if you want.

lol@you. If you were muslim would you go around apologizing for what Al Qaeda does? Would you, before getting on a plane, plead with others that you are not a terrorist? lol.