Victim gets gun from attacker who is raping his date

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jackstar7

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Criminals are not infrequently crazy, not victims of your delusions about "progressives". And due to our cultural gun abundance, they also can get guns with ease. I think that's closer to the point.
 
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Criminals are not infrequently crazy, not victims of your delusions about "progressives". And due to our cultural gun abundance, they also can get guns with ease. I think that's closer to the point.


The point seems to be if guns were outlawed that these people would no longer be able to rape people with force.
 

Lepton87

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You're points are contradictions though.

You somehow believe that cops (you're the one claiming they do nothing but harm citizens) are somehow kinder and gentler toward an unarmed populace. That doesnt jibe and I don't think you have any proof of that. (Keep in mind, were talking about the LAW ABIDING populace in either case, not criminals. This is where your logic seems to be failing you. What cops do defending themselves against violent criminals doesn't have any bearing on their treatment of normal law abiding citizens- yes, even armed ones.)

I don't get the logic of someone who sees cops as mostly only harming the citizens, yet placing the defence of themselves and their loved ones in the hands of people that don't give a shit about you. I don't understand seeking to make sure those same harm-seeking people are the only ones armed either.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2373228

I wouldn't be shot at just because I had a cylindrical object in my hand. Why? Because gun violence is very rare in here and cops aren't programmed to think that anything that has a shape that slightly resembles a gun is probably a gun.
 

alkemyst

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I wrote that only police can open carry so it stands to reason that it's the police that I see brandishing their weapons. It was a vaguely related rant against the police, I thought that was clear. The police is less violent not more when the population is largely unarmed. The reason for that is clear. They don't fear for their life nearly as much because no one is shooting at them. Well, to be fair gun fights still happen but they are very rare and usually it's the SWAT equivalent that engages criminals with guns over here.
ps. I wasn't trying to make an anti-gun argument.


Wow, I would have expected Texas to be Permissive to open-carry.

I do agree open-carry causes a lot of issues (but I don't think that should be the way law works).

I have no need to ever open-carry, but I will defend that right.

I have had the police called on me just because I have used a knife to help someone (help someone open a box or something like cutting rope, not threatening or defending someone) by some idiot in the peanut gallery.
 

her209

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Handguns aren't all that effective at killing people actually, at least in the U.S. According to statistics, 6/7 handgun shot victims survive. Handguns aren't really much more deadly than knives, they just have a little longer range and don't require physically overpowering the opponent (which is the major advantage for self defense for women/against multiple attackers).

The Boston Marathon Bombing killed 3 people and injured 264. The 1993 WTC Bombing killed 6 and injured more than a thousand. Even when you factor in the OKC Bombing, the survivability ratio is even higher than even handguns. Bombs are terribly ineffective at killing people.

:rolleyes:
 

AViking

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The Boston Marathon Bombing killed 3 people and injured 264. The 1993 WTC Bombing killed 6 and injured more than a thousand. Even when you factor in the OKC Bombing, the survivability ratio is even higher than even handguns. Bombs are terribly ineffective at killing people.

:rolleyes:

Those 3 attacks were terror attacks. It might be better to look at bombings in Iraq where they're effectively killing people.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/iraq/bombings/001.iraq-bombings-interactive-map.html