Vice President Cheney criticized for participating in "canned hunt"

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from MSNBC.COM


I never understood how you can call yourself a hunter when you participate in something like this. Doesn't really resemble hunting in my eyes, more a slaughter for rich idiots. **and I am a pretty regular deer hunter and fisherman**

 

[CADsortaGUY]

What do these people think about stocking fishing ponds? Where is the outrage over those?

CkG

 

[Red Dawn]

I'm amazed that he is still alive with that sausage of a heart he has. Hopefully nothing will happen to the Dub while Cheney's still kicking! Actually I hope nothing happens to the Dub but it would be a horrific situation if it does and Mr. Haliburton is still VP!

 

[kandarp]

i think he was hunting because he was looking for a heart replacement from one of the animals

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: kandarp
i think he was hunting because he was looking for a heart replacement from one of the animals

Was he hunting for Boar?

 

[heartsurgeon]

well for you tree-huggers out there, you should understand that "canned" hunting is actually BENEFICIAL to the enviroment!

what? you say!
well, the way a "canned hunt" works, is that the hunters PAY someone to raise these birds specifically for hunting. the birds are then released in a cornfield or someother "fallow" section of land, and the hunters use dogs to find the birds and shoot them. turns aout that a fair number of these birds (who would not otherwise exist, having been "farm raised") escape, and fly away, actually increasing the number of birds in the wild.

so, lets see, the "canned hunting" industry increases the number of game birds in the wild, supports keeping large plots of land fallow, and provides income for the people who manage the hunting reserve...sounds pretty "Green" to me. what's your beef again?

 

[kandarp]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: kandarp
i think he was hunting because he was looking for a heart replacement from one of the animals

Was he hunting for Boar?

i think a small birds heart would have done..i mean he has hardly used his so far (hubbala hubbala rib rib) he doesnt need anything more than a organic sump pump

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
well for you tree-huggers out there, you should understand that "canned" hunting is actually BENEFICIAL to the enviroment!

what? you say!
well, the way a "canned hunt" works, is that the hunters PAY someone to raise these birds specifically for hunting. the birds are then released in a cornfield or someother "fallow" section of land, and the hunters use dogs to find the birds and shoot them. turns aout that a fair number of these birds (who would not otherwise exist, having been "farm raised") escape, and fly away, actually increasing the number of birds in the wild.

so, lets see, the "canned hunting" industry increases the number of game birds in the wild, supports keeping large plots of land fallow, and provides income for the people who manage the hunting reserve...sounds pretty "Green" to me. what's your beef again?

Did you become a Heart Surgeon out of curiosity over what it was like to have one?

 

[Corn]

Was he hunting for Boar?

Damn you for making me crack up when I simply wanted to be pissed off all day!

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
well for you tree-huggers out there, you should understand that "canned" hunting is actually BENEFICIAL to the enviroment!

what? you say!
well, the way a "canned hunt" works, is that the hunters PAY someone to raise these birds specifically for hunting. the birds are then released in a cornfield or someother "fallow" section of land, and the hunters use dogs to find the birds and shoot them. turns aout that a fair number of these birds (who would not otherwise exist, having been "farm raised") escape, and fly away, actually increasing the number of birds in the wild.

so, lets see, the "canned hunting" industry increases the number of game birds in the wild, supports keeping large plots of land fallow, and provides income for the people who manage the hunting reserve...sounds pretty "Green" to me. what's your beef again?

Did you become a Heart Surgeon out of curiosity over what it was like to have one?

You see a problem with the logic?

 

[Spencer278]

Wtf do you do with 400 ringneck pheasants

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Spencer278
Wtf do you do with 400 ringneck pheasants

freeze them for later?

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Spencer278
Wtf do you do with 400 ringneck pheasants

freeze them for later?

yeah like the VP does his own cooking.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
well for you tree-huggers out there, you should understand that "canned" hunting is actually BENEFICIAL to the enviroment!

what? you say!
well, the way a "canned hunt" works, is that the hunters PAY someone to raise these birds specifically for hunting. the birds are then released in a cornfield or someother "fallow" section of land, and the hunters use dogs to find the birds and shoot them. turns aout that a fair number of these birds (who would not otherwise exist, having been "farm raised") escape, and fly away, actually increasing the number of birds in the wild.

so, lets see, the "canned hunting" industry increases the number of game birds in the wild, supports keeping large plots of land fallow, and provides income for the people who manage the hunting reserve...sounds pretty "Green" to me. what's your beef again?

I'm confused. I thought hunting was necessary to manage populations, to thin the flock/herd/whatever to prevent the problems of overcrowding. Which is it? Are we trying to increase or decrease the bird population? Sounds like another YABA spin job to me.



I actually don't care one way or the other, except to note Cheney chose the least sportsmanlike and most elitist form of "hunting" for his photo-op. Certainly no surprise there. It's just fun to watch the YABAs contort themselves to justify everything the Bush-lite administration does. I swear if someone criticized Bush for coughing without covering his mouth, several apologists would pile on to explain how spreading Presidential germs was good for the environment, part of the landmark Clean Phlegm Initiative or some such nonsense.

 

[miguel]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

I actually don't care one way or the other, except to note Cheney chose the least sportsmanlike and most elitist form of "hunting" for his photo-op. Certainly no surprise there. It's just fun to watch the YABAs contort themselves to justify everything the Bush-lite administration does. I swear if someone criticized Bush for coughing without covering his mouth, several apologists would pile on to explain how spreading Presidential germs was good for the environment, part of the landmark Clean Phlegm Initiative or some such nonsense.

To be fair, you have to agree that if Bush found the cure for cancer, someone would criticize him somehow.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: miguel

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

I actually don't care one way or the other, except to note Cheney chose the least sportsmanlike and most elitist form of "hunting" for his photo-op. Certainly no surprise there. It's just fun to watch the YABAs contort themselves to justify everything the Bush-lite administration does. I swear if someone criticized Bush for coughing without covering his mouth, several apologists would pile on to explain how spreading Presidential germs was good for the environment, part of the landmark Clean Phlegm Initiative or some such nonsense.

To be fair, you have to agree that if Bush found the cure for cancer, someone would criticize him somehow.

Cure for cancer is all nice and all GW, but what are you doing about AIDS?

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Gaard

Originally posted by: miguel

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

I actually don't care one way or the other, except to note Cheney chose the least sportsmanlike and most elitist form of "hunting" for his photo-op. Certainly no surprise there. It's just fun to watch the YABAs contort themselves to justify everything the Bush-lite administration does. I swear if someone criticized Bush for coughing without covering his mouth, several apologists would pile on to explain how spreading Presidential germs was good for the environment, part of the landmark Clean Phlegm Initiative or some such nonsense.

To be fair, you have to agree that if Bush found the cure for cancer, someone would criticize him somehow.

Cure for cancer is all nice and all GW, but what are you doing about AIDS?

About $15B worth of new money for that cause.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: miguel

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
I actually don't care one way or the other, except to note Cheney chose the least sportsmanlike and most elitist form of "hunting" for his photo-op. Certainly no surprise there. It's just fun to watch the YABAs contort themselves to justify everything the Bush-lite administration does. I swear if someone criticized Bush for coughing without covering his mouth, several apologists would pile on to explain how spreading Presidential germs was good for the environment, part of the landmark Clean Phlegm Initiative or some such nonsense.

To be fair, you have to agree that if Bush found the cure for cancer, someone would criticize him somehow.

True enough.

Some people are blindly partisan. I only criticize him when it is well-justified.

 

[miguel]

Good. I hope to one day see the end of the "Bush is stupid" posts, to be replaced with well thought-out arguments, not ad-hominen attacks.

 

[BDawg]

Dear God, that canned hunt sounds disgusting...psychologists should look into the minds of people who enjoy slaughtering living beings like that.

I'm all for eating animals, but someone doing it en masse like that is sick.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Corn

Was he hunting for Boar?

Damn you for making me crack up when I simply wanted to be pissed off all day!

Very good, Corn. You're starting to see ow you are. Now the question is why.

 

[heartsurgeon]

Did you become a Heart Surgeon out of curiosity over what it was like to have one?

typical liberal tactic - personal attack rather than debate the facts. If i was unkind. i would respond that your name should be changed to Brain Surgeon.

obviously, the people who feel that a "canned hunt" is a lowly endeavour..have never been hunting...
this is a commonplace event. it helps to employ people in typically remote, rural areas. it helps to keep large tracts of land "virginal", that is, in its native state.
most hunters i know either eat the meat that they harvest, or donate the meat to food banks. it replenishes, rather than depletes wildlife.

the birds are farm raised. they are released over a large tracts of land (up to hundreds of acres in my experience) you walk the ground all day long with hunting dogs that flush out the birds. some fly away. some are never found. they have a significantly better chance of surviving than the chicken or turkey, or cow you ate last month for dinner.

just what is your problem with this? are you a PETA freak, or just a Bush/Cheney hater?

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

Did you become a Heart Surgeon out of curiosity over what it was like to have one?

the birds are farm raised. they are released over a large tracts of land (up to hundreds of acres in my experience) you walk the ground all day long with hunting dogs that flush out the birds. some fly away. some are never found. they have a significantly better chance of surviving than the chicken or turkey, or cow you ate last month for dinner.

just what is your problem with this? are you a PETA freak, or just a Bush/Cheney hater?

I don't mind the killing of animals, but there is a difference in what Cheney did and what happens at Tyson.

Tyson slaughters chickens as a business. Cheney may use the birds as meat, but he seems to really enjoy the killing. That to me is the mark of a sick individual.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

Did you become a Heart Surgeon out of curiosity over what it was like to have one?

typical liberal tactic - personal attack rather than debate the facts. If i was unkind. i would respond that your name should be changed to Brain Surgeon.

obviously, the people who feel that a "canned hunt" is a lowly endeavour..have never been hunting...
this is a commonplace event. it helps to employ people in typically remote, rural areas. it helps to keep large tracts of land "virginal", that is, in its native state.
most hunters i know either eat the meat that they harvest, or donate the meat to food banks. it replenishes, rather than depletes wildlife.

the birds are farm raised. they are released over a large tracts of land (up to hundreds of acres in my experience) you walk the ground all day long with hunting dogs that flush out the birds. some fly away. some are never found. they have a significantly better chance of surviving than the chicken or turkey, or cow you ate last month for dinner.

just what is your problem with this? are you a PETA freak, or just a Bush/Cheney hater?

I don't like Cheney at all but I could care less about the birds.

 

[chess9]

Couldn't they have released the birds in his bedroom? Just give him a .50 caliber machine gun and let him lay there and fire away. Then clean up the mess. Really, I'd hate to see the guy do anything resembling exercise. Did he finally stop smoking?

I don't think canned hunting is hunting. Hunting is spending 4-200 hours wandering in the wilderness trying to find something to either wrestle to the ground or plug with a bullet or arrow. I hunted quite a bit as a kid and most of the time I never got anything. I'm afraid the VP is really showing what a complete pencil-necked dweeb he is. Why he would consider such nonsense a photo-op is beyond me. I'd me hiding my sorry butt if I were him.....

-Robert