[vga.zol]AMD trinity passmark results surface, impressive for an amd

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http://www.planet3dnow.de/cgi-bin/newspub/viewnews.cgi?id=1334532731 (german)
http://vga.zol.com.cn/288/2889302.html
trinity can be seen here dropping the dime on big brother bulldozer (fx-4100) using a significantly lower clock (2.3ghz) on is A10-5800k variant.
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heck of an improvement for an amd..
 
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richaron

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Good thing you put the second link there for us english speakers :thumbsup:

Leaks are looking quite nice for Trinity. I will cry if it's another flop.
 
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Arzachel

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Iirc thats mostly due to BD and Stars having a bug in integer division, which is weigthed very heavily in this bench.

If things look too good to be true, they usually are ;)
 
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Not bad at all...if true.
This is good and possible an incentive for them to release a revised BD version, one that actually addresses most weak points AMD has right now.
 
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Arzachel

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LOL_Wut_Axel said:
I'm gonna go ahead and call BS on this one.
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Well it's true that Trinity is several times better at integer division than both BD and Llano. The issue is, this bench weighs integer division, an instruction that usually makes up around 1% of all code, as 25% of the total integer score.
 
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Does this adequately translate to Real World performance? Those numbers look great, but I dunno if they really mean anything. Especially when AMD is only claiming 10% improvements.
 
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pelov

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They're claiming up to 30% improvement over Llano at equal TDP in CPU performance and 50% improvement in graphics. I don't think anyone doubts the graphics but the CPU side is where most wanted to see the gains come to fruition. The leaks, if they're to be believed, seem to suggest that the 20-30% improvement seems likely.

The benchmarks above should be taken with some skepticism because, as was said, they represent only a small fraction of the general workload. That is if they're even true :p
 
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pelov said:
They're claiming up to 30% improvement over Llano at equal TDP in CPU performance and 50% improvement in graphics. I don't think anyone doubts the graphics but the CPU side is where most wanted to see the gains come to fruition. The leaks, if they're to be believed, seem to suggest that the 20-30% improvement seems likely.

The benchmarks above should be taken with some skepticism because, as was said, they represent only a small fraction of the general workload. That is if they're even true :p
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Even with those specs, a Trinity cpu would make a damn fine HTPC or budget gaming rig. Looking forward to it.
 
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sandorski said:
Does this adequately translate to Real World performance? Those numbers look great, but I dunno if they really mean anything. Especially when AMD is only claiming 10% improvements.
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as already said by Arzachel..... this bench weighs integer division, an instruction that usually makes up around 1% of all code, as 25% of the total integer score.
since,
25% increases 400%
1% should increase 16%

if i didn't failed hard at math, it puts in line with all other leaks...16% ipc increase (over bulldozer)
 
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HexiumVII

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Not bad, nehalem is really good performance. Now if they get their power usage down, it would make a nice ultrabook, radeon 7600 graphics and nehalem on a single chip is real nice.
 
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pelov

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daveybrat said:
Even with those specs, a Trinity cpu would make a damn fine HTPC or budget gaming rig. Looking forward to it.
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The graphics alone would deem it worthy of a laptop or HTPC upgrade.

The IPC won't gain 16%. The IPC dipped from Thuban > BD by ~10% so they need to make up as much as they can there but it won't be 16% across the board.

http://www.nordichardware.com/news/...-trinity-a8-4500m-benchmarked-in-folding.html

The other leak showed IPC gains that equaled, slightly above or slightly below the Llano APUs. It's hard to judge with only a single slide running a single benchmark that seemed to be all over the place.
 
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soccerballtux

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they pulled the same shens with Bulldozer, showing it was as fast as i7 in like two benchmarks.
Single threaded performance was of course anything but as fast.
Same shens here IMO.
 
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sandorski said:
Does this adequately translate to Real World performance? Those numbers look great, but I dunno if they really mean anything. Especially when AMD is only claiming 10% improvements.
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Passmark is problem one of the worst benchmarks at gauging real world performance. Regardless like others have said the graph by the OP only looks impressive because of a bug in Llano and Bulldozer. If you look at the other graph with the bug fix you get a different story.

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Llano A-3870 scores 3480.4 @ 3.0 GHz
Trinity A10 scores 2753.3 @ 2.3 to 3.2 GHz
Hypothetical Llano @ 2.3 GHz would score 2668

So Trinity Integer IPC looks to be around Llano level, slightly lower or slightly higher depending on how much turbo was influencing the score. This is in-line with the benchs here:

http://www.nordichardware.com/news/...-trinity-a8-4500m-benchmarked-in-folding.html

So if people are expecting a Sandy or Ivy killer they're gonna be sadly disappointed.
 
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richaron

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386DX said:
So if people are expecting a Sandy or Ivy killer they're gonna be sadly disappointed.
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As stated many, many times. In so many threads it should be common knowledge. AMDs advantage is in iGPU, so I'm sorry to break the news: AMD already has a Sandy killer, & trinity will be an Ivy killer.

Just depends where your priorities lie. What I/we are hoping for is a nice bump in CPU performance... so it filters down to their AM3+ chip... so I can finally buy a new cpu for my AM3+ motherboard :D
 
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Assuming Trinity is as good as these rumors suggest, AMD's biggest challenge will be marketing and having companies like Dell, HP, etc. push their products.

Many people who know diddly about computers can still recognize the name Intel. None of them probably know AMD.
 
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