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Apocalypto

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I was going with the EVGA GTX 780 3GB standard or the SC version, or the 6GB version. Also am I going to see a huge difference? for example in Watch Dogs can I Max it out with Ultra Settings? How many FPS do you think I will see, please?

or should I wait for the 800 series?

My Current System:

CPU: Core i7 3770K 3.50Ghz
RAM: 16GB Dominator 1600mhz
VGA - EVGA GTX 470 SC 1280MB
Monitor - Samsung P2350 23 Inches - 1920 x 1080 / Samsung F6510 40"
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z77X-D3H

Thanks for all your help guys!
 

AntonioHG

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Well, if I were you, I'd wait for the next gen. You waited this long, might as well hold out a while more. Also, upgrading to tech on its way out for one game... That just sounds a bit extreme. I've got 2 780s and though I don't own Watch Dogs, I do realize that there are games I can't run with maximum everything. What I tend to do is find a guide that tells me what to turn down for more performance with minimal image quality reduction.

If you've got the money, I suppose getting a GTX 780Ti or possibly a 290X for your resolution would probably be your best bet (specifically for Watch Dogs), but realize that even at 1080, you won't be able to turn every single setting to max in every game (Watch Dogs seems to be one of those games) and have a steady 60FPS experience.

Benchmarks with W_D are everywhere, but here are a few links:

http://www.techspot.com/review/827-watch-dogs-benchmarks/page3.html

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/05/27/watch_dogs_amd_nvidia_gpu_performance_preview/3
 

RussianSensation

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With cards like HIS IceQ2 R9 290 for $380, the 780 3GB and especially the 6GB version for $550 make little sense imo. Heck, the R9 290X from PowerColor PCS+ is $469 and it is still cheaper than the slower 780 6GB. I would either get an after-market R9 290 card, or if you must stick with NV, wait until their prices come down to earth/800-series launches later this year.

Think about this, if you buy an R9 290 for $380, and save yourself nearly $170 from not buying a 780 6GB, in 2 years when the GPU gets slow, just take that $170 from your bank/envelope that you set aside and get a much faster GPU. That's a much smarter way to upgrade.

I also don't see what's at all compelling about the EVGA-branded 780 card. MSI Gaming has a superior cooler for noise levels and temperatures. Alternatively, if you want a faster 780 card, Gigabyte Ghz Edition is also better.
 
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Apocalypto

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I see, I don't want to spend more than 500 euros and the 800 series might be at a higher price at first, and no one knows when they are going to be released that's my problem.

So if i go with the 780 3gb I will not see a huge difference, comparing it to my gtx 470sc? Not for only watch dogs I need it, but for upcoming games as well.

Or is it better to go with gtx 780 6gb?

Thanks so much!


Well, if I were you, I'd wait for the next gen. You waited this long, might as well hold out a while more. Also, upgrading to tech on its way out for one game... That just sounds a bit extreme. I've got 2 780s and though I don't own Watch Dogs, I do realize that there are games I can't run with maximum everything. What I tend to do is find a guide that tells me what to turn down for more performance with minimal image quality reduction.

If you've got the money, I suppose getting a GTX 780Ti or possibly a 290X for your resolution would probably be your best bet (specifically for Watch Dogs), but realize that even at 1080, you won't be able to turn every single setting to max in every game (Watch Dogs seems to be one of those games) and have a steady 60FPS experience.

Benchmarks with W_D are everywhere, but here are a few links:

http://www.techspot.com/review/827-watch-dogs-benchmarks/page3.html

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/05/27/watch_dogs_amd_nvidia_gpu_performance_preview/3
 

Apocalypto

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Thanks for your help. but I dont like ATI, I used to have them, but I prefer Nvidia...

With cards like HIS IceQ2 R9 290 for $380, the 780 3GB and especially the 6GB version for $550 make little sense imo. Heck, the R9 290X from PowerColor PCS+ is $469 and it is still cheaper than the slower 780 6GB. I would either get an after-market R9 290 card, or if you must stick with NV, wait until their prices come down to earth/800-series launches later this year.

Think about this, if you buy an R9 290 for $380, and save yourself nearly $170 from not buying a 780 6GB, in 2 years when the GPU gets slow, just take that $170 from your bank/envelope that you set aside and get a much faster GPU. That's a much smarter way to upgrade.

I also don't see what's at all compelling about the EVGA-branded 780 card. MSI Gaming has a superior cooler for noise levels and temperatures. Alternatively, if you want a faster 780 card, Gigabyte Ghz Edition is also better.
 

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if you are worried about future and only want nvidia, buy the cheapest GTX 760/770 2GB, overclock it, and upgrade again sooner than you normally would, I think now is a bad time to buy a card expecting to keep it for a long time, because it's a time of transition from games made for PS3/360 to the next gen, DX11 to DX12, 28nm to the next process...

the GK110 on the 780 is what? 2+ years old?
 

Apocalypto

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You have a point, but the 800 series no one knows when it is coming out...

So you think its not worth it buying the 780? It was released on May 2013

if you are worried about future and only want nvidia, buy the cheapest GTX 760/770 2GB, overclock it, and upgrade again sooner than you normally would, I think now is a bad time to buy a card expecting to keep it for a long time, because it's a time of transition from games made for PS3/360 to the next gen, DX11 to DX12, 28nm to the next process...

the GK110 on the 780 is what? 2+ years old?
 

SPBHM

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You have a point, but the 800 series no one knows when it is coming out...

So you think its not worth it buying the 780? It was released on May 2013

780 is a great card, I just wouldn't recommend buying (and paying the extra for 6GB) to keep it for 4 years (like I suppose you did with your 470), better to buy something cheaper and upgrade more frequently in this case I think, specially because of the factors I mentioned on my previous post.

the 780 GPU (GK110) was first used in some Quadro cards back in Q2/Q3 2012,

800 series can't be far, their newer architecture is already being used with the GTX 750/TI with great success
 

Apocalypto

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I see, do you think they will be more costly?

780 is a great card, I just wouldn't recommend buying (and paying the extra for 6GB) to keep it for 4 years (like I suppose you did with your 470), better to buy something cheaper and upgrade more frequently in this case I think, specially because of the factors I mentioned on my previous post.

the 780 GPU (GK110) was first used in some Quadro cards back in Q2/Q3 2012,

800 series can't be far, their newer architecture is already being used with the GTX 750/TI with great success