Very Nice review with wide range of benches on all Core 2 Duo CPU's.

sindows

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Am I seeing things or is Intel definately winning all/most of the benches? If so, this is great news. Maybe Intel's PR machine wasn't overhyping a product for once ;)

Edit: Seems that Conroe compatible motherboards will run ~400fsb so thats a little dissapointing. However at least the difference between 2Mb and 4Mb of L2 cache isn't too different.
 

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If You want to read it translated to English by google....

here

Switch between pages using small blue arrow instead of javascript popup list....

P.S. Nice to see that E6300 1.86GHz Conroe punishes AMD X2 4800+ in few benchmarks :)
 

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Well, as of this moment, this is the most complete suite of benches I have seen. The fact that they included a performance percentage difference between 2 and 4 MB of cache is a nice sight to see. Maybe the large cache is Intels temporary answer to AMD's IMC. But the performance delta is still quite impressive for even 2MB chips.

I'll either be buying the 2.4 or 2.66 GHz model and a nice 965 board. And maybe a nice 7950GX2 if SLI works on Intel hardware by then. Very excited to get my new rig.
 

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Very nice indeed !

I graduate in august and it looks like for the first time in 8+ years I will have an intel processor under the hood !

E6600...man thats gonna be a beast for the buck ! Also lets not forget overclocking 150+% :D
 

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yep, i am definitely getting the E6600 and a nice 975x board...now to see if i can drivers to enable sli...hehe.

edit: they should have used winrar 3.60 beta because it supports multithreading...but i guess thats just me.

and WOW the core 2 duos are beating the athlon FXs and X2s...thats just sweet.
 

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Man I wish there was SLi and Crossfire available for an Intel mobo. The E6600 is where its @. I suspect sell out soon... I will buy one @ 12:00.00 AM on lauch day ^_^
 

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Very nice benchmark and good results for Core2Duo
Time to upgrade my 3yr old P4 2.26GHz
 

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Heh, I love the picture of the box of Kleenex at the conclusion, very nice touch!
 

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Well, as of this moment, this is the most complete suite of benches I have seen. The fact that they included a performance percentage difference between 2 and 4 MB of cache is a nice sight to see. Maybe the large cache is Intels temporary answer to AMD's IMC. But the performance delta is still quite impressive for even 2MB chips.

I'll either be buying the 2.4 or 2.66 GHz model and a nice 965 board. And maybe a nice 7950GX2 if SLI works on Intel hardware by then. Very excited to get my new rig.

Yes, it was very helpful to see the 2MB vs 4MB comparison. I wish that cache didn't make such a large impact in games, since my rig's primary use is for gaming, and I was planning on getting a cheap 2MB variant. But I'll just OC to make up for it :D
 

Keysplayr

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Avalon, did you notice how much the Core 2 Duo's scale when overclocked? Pretty impressive. So it won't be like you're wasting your time o/c'ing these things. You get a lot per MHz bump it would seem. I don't mind getting the slowest 4MB chip cause I know it can o/c a bit. Getting the 2MB will leave me feeling, well, a bit envious of those who got the 4MB, LOL :)
 

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I thought the use of virtualdub was lame considering it is not SMP aware.....Only a half a dozen other apps that are that could have been used....


On Keys and the scaling....Seems about right...Do you remeber my test on my 3000+ A64 and oc'd 48% to 2.66ghz??? Amazing most things scaled pretty close to that..... http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...hreadid=1531414&enterthread=y&arctab=y .... so I would basically expect it...

granted I had some increased memory bandwidth but it should have not counted much more then 5%....

 

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Wow, the boost in Mathematica after the overclock is quite awesome, almost twice as fast as the FX-62 (closest thing to what I have). One of these may be worth it to me for that alone. Did they get the 3.66ghz speed on air? I wonder if the lower end models will clock that high.

I wish they had done some game tests at normal resolutions though. It's hard to tell how much those 640x480 gains will actually translate to improvements at normal settings.
 

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The only gripe I have with this review is it's use of DDR2 533 on the AM2 Processors. Since both Core 2 Duo & the AM2 chips support 667 I can't see why they didn't use that on the desktop CPU's.

Still, looks to be a good showing for Conroe here. Shame it's just missed the boat for me, i'm not upgrading again until August 2007 (regular upgrade cycle).
 

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Originally posted by: DeathReborn
The only gripe I have with this review is it's use of DDR2 533 on the AM2 Processors. Since both Core 2 Duo & the AM2 chips support 667 I can't see why they didn't use that on the desktop CPU's.

Still, looks to be a good showing for Conroe here. Shame it's just missed the boat for me, i'm not upgrading again until August 2007 (regular upgrade cycle).

i wouldnt worry too much. the intel 965 and 975 chipsets fully support ddr533/667/800. im planning to get that g.skill 2GB kit that has 4-4-4-12 timings (the 4-4-4-5 timings kit is TOO expensive), as it seems like a good overclocker.

and not to be off topic, but...how in the world are we going to overclock from a 266FSB? most of todays cpus start at or around 200FSB.
 

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Its a pretty impressive article. That E6600 chip is going to be a hot seller I bet. Pricing out about $313 compared to the FX-62 thats about $1000 and it still spanks the FX62. AMD is going to need to drop prices more than 50% to even have a chance to compete in the pricing arena on their top chips. If this all true (and no reason to say it isnt) Intel certainly has come out from behind finally.
 

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Wow, looking at all those benches underscores what an insane value the E6600 is going to be. :thumbsup:

I thought about going with the E6700 but saving a couple hundred bucks and having a ~$300 E6600 that basically spanks the top of the line FX-62 is just too good of a bargain to pass up. I sure hope Intel is cranking these out at full speed! :p

 

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"If AMD does not react quickly, should see us trucks Kleenex to make deliveries in mass on the side of Sunnyvale to the seat of the father of Athlon." :p

when will these be available?
 

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man i have been an amd guy for the last 6 years, until about a month ago, i sold my rig and bought a $100 compaq p4 2.53ghz system, just waiting to push the fire button on a new core2 duo system,

e6600 looks like the sweet spot
 

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Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Wow, looking at all those benches underscores what an insane value the E6600 is going to be. :thumbsup:

I thought about going with the E6700 but saving a couple hundred bucks and having a ~$300 E6600 that basically spanks the top of the line FX-62 is just too good of a bargain to pass up. I sure hope Intel is cranking these out at full speed! :p
Unfortunately, if these numbers are for real the demand for the Core 2 Duo will drive street prices up for some time. Probably won't see "good" pricing until '07.

Some of these numbers are simply stunning, not simply at the top-end but look at the "consommation" page. The entry-level E6300 has lower power consumption at full load than the Sempron 3200+ and perhaps more unbelievably the top-end X6800 consumes less than an X2 4000+ or a lowly Celeron D 352. Amazing if this is true. I really admire energy efficiency and the OC crowd will have spasms of joy if these numbers are true.
 

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Good God...

Was gonna wait until vista was released to upgrade but man, this is tempting.