VERY impressed with XFX HD 4650

[Rick James]

Bought this card till my 4830 arrives but i think i'm just going to return it. The 4650 overclocks like a MOFO with zero issues. I'm sure it will go higher but i maxed out the values in Rivatuner.

http://i234.photobucket.com/al...e88/BlackTTC6/4650.gif

 

[error8]

There is no comparison between 4830 and this 4650. It doesn't matter how fast the core clocks, if you only have 19.2 gb/sec from the DDR2. It's still miles away from 4830 in terms of performance.

 

[Rick James]

Originally posted by: error8
There is no comparison between 4830 and this 4650. It doesn't matter how fast the core clocks, if you only have 19.2 gb/sec from the DDR2. It's still miles away from 4830 in terms of performance.

True. I guess we'll see how much better the 4830 does when it arrives

 

[SlowSpyder]

But I've read on these forums that AMD/ATi cards don't overclock well at all.

Nice oc... that's gotta be decent bang for the buck for a ~$60 card. Of course the 4830 is only a little more money and probably a good deal faster.

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
But I've read on these forums that AMD/ATi cards don't overclock well at all.

No one said they can't overclock some, they're just not very good at it historically. In other news, I heard the 9500m can double its clock speeds!

Very nice OP, although I have to wonder if spending money on all those incremental low end cards is worth it? You've got to be close to being able to afford a real card once you get into the 2-3x low-end range. Either way I have a feeling those GPUs will be holding back your i7 rig.

 

[error8]

Originally posted by: chizow

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
But I've read on these forums that AMD/ATi cards don't overclock well at all.

No one said they can't overclock some, they're just not very good at it historically.

Ok, chizow, give us some examples of the historic overclock failure for ATI?

 

[cbn]

Just curious how well this would do on 3D Mark06 @ both stock clocks and 900 core speed?

P.S. If worried about memory bandwidth maybe 4670 would have been a better choice?

 

[Rick James]

Originally posted by: chizow

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
But I've read on these forums that AMD/ATi cards don't overclock well at all.

No one said they can't overclock some, they're just not very good at it historically. In other news, I heard the 9500m can double its clock speeds!

Very nice OP, although I have to wonder if spending money on all those incremental low end cards is worth it? You've got to be close to being able to afford a real card once you get into the 2-3x low-end range. Either way I have a feeling those GPUs will be holding back your i7 rig.

These aren't for my I7 rig. It's for a rig i just built my lady. My Quad SLI aren't going to be replaced anytime soon

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: error8
Ok, chizow, give us some examples of the historic overclock failure for ATI?

I have in the past, feel free to dig it up. Or you can compile your own, go ahead and list off typical overclock % (based on user reports, a single large overclocking thread is fine) or a few examples of factory overclocked parts. Also make sure to start a new thread, no need for us to further crap in this one.

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: Rick James
These aren't for my I7 rig. It's for a rig i just built my lady. My Quad SLI aren't going to be replaced anytime soon

Ah nice, that makes sense. You building her a Sims 3 killer aren't ya?

 

[Rick James]

Originally posted by: chizow

Originally posted by: Rick James
These aren't for my I7 rig. It's for a rig i just built my lady. My Quad SLI aren't going to be replaced anytime soon

Ah nice, that makes sense. You building her a Sims 3 killer aren't ya?

Hahahaha That's exactly the case

Is there anyway to increase the values in rivatuner? I'd love to see if it could do 1000mhz core

 

[error8]

Originally posted by: chizow
no need for us to further crap in this one.

True, but from my last nvidia cards I can give you just a couple of overclocks I've personally done, at stock volts and stock cooling.

Leadtek 6600 GT, went from 500/900 to 540/1000. 8% for the core, 11% for the memory
Leadtek 7600 GT, went from 560/1400 to 590/1500. 5% for the core, 7% for the memory.
Gigabyte 8800 GT, went from 600/1800 to 650/1950. 8% for the core, 8% for the memory.

Also had a FX5700, but didn't bothered to overclock it, since it was crap anyway.

The bottom line is, that without volt mods, and using the stock cooler, my Nvidia cards were not that amazing at overclocking, historically speaking.

 

[nosfe]

there you go, i hit 1000mhz for you :laugh:

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/9692/4650x.gif

 

[Rick James]

Originally posted by: nosfe
there you go, i hit 1000mhz for you :laugh:

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/9692/4650x.gif

Haha

 

[TurtleCrusher]

About ATI's overclocking ability, when i used to have my P4 2.8 and a radeon 9250se 64mb, i took it to 405/220 compared to defaults of 240/200. ATI's cant overclock? Pssh!

 

[sgrinavi]

Originally posted by: Rick James
Bought this card till my 4830 arrives but i think i'm just going to return it. The 4650 overclocks like a MOFO with zero issues. I'm sure it will go higher but i maxed out the values in Rivatuner.

http://i234.photobucket.com/al...e88/BlackTTC6/4650.gif

Funny, I did the same thing, I bought it to have a spare card around for setting up systems and the same day found a 4830 for about the money. The 4830 is a much better buy and a much better card.

 

[evolucion8]

The X850XT were quite overclockable, and the HD 2900XT which needed a nuclear reactor to fed up hehe

 

[cusideabelincoln]

Originally posted by: error8

Originally posted by: chizow
no need for us to further crap in this one.

True, but from my last nvidia cards I can give you just a couple of overclocks I've personally done, at stock volts and stock cooling.

Leadtek 6600 GT, went from 500/900 to 540/1000. 8% for the core, 11% for the memory
Leadtek 7600 GT, went from 560/1400 to 590/1500. 5% for the core, 7% for the memory.
Gigabyte 8800 GT, went from 600/1800 to 650/1950. 8% for the core, 8% for the memory.

Also had a FX5700, but didn't bothered to overclock it, since it was crap anyway.

The bottom line is, that without volt mods, and using the stock cooler, my Nvidia cards were not that amazing at overclocking, historically speaking.

9600 Pro.... never really bothered testing but I don't think it did well.
X800GT, went from 475/490 to 555/540, 15% / 10%
HD3850, went from 668/825 to 770*/988, 15% / 19%
8600GT... I don't remember the numbers. I'll post them when I get access to the machine again. On the core it overclocked pretty well. The memory, however, did not. And this thing had MSI's Twin Turbo cooler.

*Note, 770 is as far as CCC will let me take the core. For some reason ATITool and ATI Tray Tools don't work, and if I use Rivatuner I lose the power saving features. So I just live with 770, which basically makes it as fast as the 3870 on the core.