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Very happy with my i3-2100

skipsneeky2

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After rolling with a 1100t for almost 2 weeks with a gtx570 i decided to have a change of heart towards my computers future and i ended up swapping my build at frys for a intel build.

While i loved the 1100t at 4ghz i still found it bottlenecked me in games like UT3,BF3 and BC2 and my gtx570 wouldn't always pegg 100% in BF3 which bothered me and my card ran rather hot at 65cel at 60% fan speed with my case fans on medium.

The savings of the i3 2100 build from the 1100t allowed me to replace my 3 1/2 year old 1.5tb seagate hard drive with a 60gb force gt ssd as a boot up drive.

The gtx570 was replaced with a radeon 6790 which i clocked to 925 core,1200 memory.

Why the downgrade?

Much Lower pc temps,i was able to exchange the stuff get $200 back which i have put away for a ivy chip or a i7 2600 whichever option makes more sense and is cost effective at release as my build is based around the h67 and later on i could replace the 6790 with a 7000 series radeon.

Overall i am happy with the build 🙂
 
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Did you find the i3-2100 better than the Phenom II X6 @ 4GHz in games you play? It's hard to imagine even with Intel's IPC advantage its faster than Phenom II with 3x the cores. i3-2100 is supposed to match a quad core AMD, not a six core.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=32696014&postcount=6

The 1100t is still a good processor but it still held back my gtx570 in about all my games especially BC2 i found gpu usage dipping as low as 80% still even in BF3 it would do this.

Not sure if thats a engine issue but for example rolling out of my base with a tank in BF3 gpu usage would dip to 80% i pull 40 fps...copy the settings on the 6790 and i3 2100 that same roll out the base gpu usage stays at 99% and i pull 45fps indicating no bottleneck with the 6790.

I will say its more of a engine issue then again another poorly optimized engine being UT3 one of my favorites to this day still pulls less then half the frames it should due to the processor heck its performance is held back enough to that of a 5670 at 1024x768 if it was matched with a i5 quad....
 
The 1100t is still a good processor but it still held back my gtx570 in about all my games especially BC2 i found gpu usage dipping as low as 80% still even in BF3 it would do this.

Not sure if thats a engine issue but for example rolling out of my base with a tank in BF3 gpu usage would dip to 80% i pull 40 fps...copy the settings on the 6790 and i3 2100 that same roll out the base gpu usage stays at 99% and i pull 45fps indicating no bottleneck with the 6790.

I will say its more of a engine issue then again another poorly optimized engine being UT3 one of my favorites to this day still pulls less then half the frames it should due to the processor heck its performance is held back enough to that of a 5670 at 1024x768 if it was matched with a i5 quad....

So wait, you're happy with your $130 vid card because it's maxed out, but your were unsatisfied with your $330 vid card because it wasnt? lol
 
So wait, you're happy with your $130 vid card because it's maxed out, but your were unsatisfied with your $330 vid card because it wasnt? lol

It would be like matching a 6990 with a e8400 but then deciding a i3 2100 would make more sense with a 6850 cause i had a oced e8200 holding back even a radeon 6750 and it sucked.

While i liked the 1100t it held back the gtx570 at times and with all the extra heat the 1100t put off just to come close to maxing out the gtx570 it ended up not being worth it thats not to say the 1100t is a bad processor but the two mixed for me gave funny results.

Now the i3 2100 and the 6790 even oced seems to be a perfect matching pair that plays BF3 very well still on high.

I just pocketed the $200 difference for a ivy quad and save the dough for the upcoming 7000 series from radeon/amd perhaps a 7800 series card.
 
It would be like matching a 6990 with a e8400 but then deciding a i3 2100 would make more sense with a 6850 cause i had a oced e8200 holding back even a radeon 6750 and it sucked.

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I have no idea what just happened there...... u a ninja?

Seriously though if you are getting better fps with all the same settings then you made a good choice.....and pocketed some loot!
 
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I have no idea what just happened there...... u a ninja?

Seriously though if you are getting better fps with all the same settings then you made a good choice.....and pocketed some loot!

There's no way he has the same settings on a 6790 as a gtx570 regardless of cpu. The OP probably would have had an easier time turning a few things down on his previous rig until he was happy with the fps.
 
There's no way he has the same settings on a 6790 as a gtx570 regardless of cpu. The OP probably would have had an easier time turning a few things down on his previous rig until he was happy with the fps.

Between the 3 configurations i applied a high 1600x1200 setting with no aa hbao or motion blur to see how how performance changed between the 3 platforms with 2 of them having perfectly good gameplay.

While the gtx570 did run the best obviously the problem was the oced 1100t still held the gtx570 back with some huge dips in gpu usage that annoyed me and the extra power noise wasn't worth it.

The choice to go with a i3 2100 and a 6790 was to pocket some dough for a ivy and a 7800 series gpu,the i3 2100 and the 6790 work hand in hand with no bottlenecks of any kind and with a mild oc BF3 is perfectly playable at 1600x1200 on high with no aa or hbao with fluid gameplay.

The post was more to help others who may consider a i3 2100 with a matching gpu as well i did make a thread about the i3 2100 and BF3.

The fact of the matter is between this build and the last i saved $200 and the only thing this build can't do is aa ultra settings and hbao...few lousy settings so point made i am glad i saved the $200 and still got a ssd in this build.
 
One of the most ridiculous threads I've had the misfortune of reading.

1100t+gtx570=hot and performance wasn't as expected aka buyers remorse.
i3 2100+oced 6790+60gbssd+$200 savings=capable Still of playing BF3 but on high settings why pay $200 more to play ultra on a hot loud machine?

Not to ridiculous my thread was basically buyers remorse on the 1100t/gtx570 me being happy with a alternative choice and exclaiming excellent performance for those who might wanna duplicate the build.

Edit:had a 15 day no hassle return policy on the 1100t/gtx570 so i lost nothing.
 
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i3-2100 is also perfectly paired with a HD6850. My GPU usage is maxxed and CPU usage is in the 85-95% range... With the GPU overclocked I think I may hit 100% CPU usage sometimes.

This is at high settings and 40+ minimum FPS (55ish avg) 1680x1050
 
i3-2100 is also perfectly paired with a HD6850. My GPU usage is maxxed and CPU usage is in the 85-95% range... With the GPU overclocked I think I may hit 100% CPU usage sometimes.

This is at high settings and 40+ minimum FPS (55ish avg) 1680x1050

With my 6790 at stock the gpu is always pinged at 99%,900 core,1200 it happens to ping around 97-99% when it pings at 97% is when theres alot on the screen.

Only time it peggs below 97% is when i first load but it happens for a few seconds then it goes right up to 99%.

I have aa shut off motion blur shut off hbao disabled and i pull 38 min thats like in a huge explosion and i'm usually in the 55-80fps range .
Have not tried metro yet but i am sure my fps might be even 10+fps more.

Edit:I misread your post wrong but my cpu usage happens to be much lower then yours for some reason i am sitting around 50-70% load but caspian does load higher but not near 95% load.


You got like hbao enabled or some msaa?Both are major hurters.
 
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Next time come here and ask how to build a proper PC.....but there's no way a 1100t would hold back a 570....heck u even oclocked it.

Building isn't a problem...i just had buyers remorse cause the damn pc put off some heat and didn't perform as good as expected in some of my game titles.

Yup i had the cpu at 4ghzs prime95 stable games like Ut3,BC2 and BF3 which is one of my favorites had low gpu usage at times.

When the minimums hit for me gpu usage was a bit lower and i believe cause of the dip my performance was cut in some of my titles.

The processor was a prior returned one that was the last on the shelf if it was a faulty one idk...it did not offer expected performance like something was keeping the gtx570 from being fully utilized.

The choice of going back to intel also allows me to still drop in a i5 2500 if i wanna match it up with a 7000 series radeon as well later on as to where the high end 1100t was not pushing the gtx570 to its full compacity...

Edit:If your one of the few amd guys going out of their way to criticize a intel choice just stop it ok...i was a unhappy consumer who didn't get what he paid for...no crime about that if you wanna spend some money on me for computer parts i sure in the hell would be happy.
 
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With my 6790 at stock the gpu is always pinged at 99%,900 core,1200 it happens to ping around 97-99% when it pings at 97% is when theres alot on the screen.

Only time it peggs below 97% is when i first load but it happens for a few seconds then it goes right up to 99%.

I have aa shut off motion blur shut off hbao disabled and i pull 38 min thats like in a huge explosion and i'm usually in the 55-80fps range .
Have not tried metro yet but i am sure my fps might be even 10+fps more.

Edit:I misread your post wrong but my cpu usage happens to be much lower then yours for some reason i am sitting around 50-70% load but caspian does load higher but not near 95% load.


You got like hbao enabled or some msaa?Both are major hurters.

Yes I have HBAO enabled 🙂
 
Yes I have HBAO enabled 🙂

I posted a gpu and cpu usage image in the thread i started about the i3 2100 if your interested.

The performance hit with even ssao was enough for me to keep it off i was thinking of dropping my settings to medium and trying hbao but i think high without it will prob be the better ideal.
 
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Will do.

I disabled HBAO and played a bit in a 64 man Operation Firestorm map:

Min: 47
Max: 77
Avg: 62.850
 
Skipsneeky, the problem with your thread is you've made a few ridiculous claims based on gpu utilization, and your preferences for how a system should run. If you would have simply posted min/max/average fps, and system temps no one would be jumping on your thread.
 
Skipsneeky, the problem with your thread is you've made a few ridiculous claims based on gpu utilization, and your preferences for how a system should run. If you would have simply posted min/max/average fps, and system temps no one would be jumping on your thread.
Not so much claims its my reasoning...personally you can jump up,down,all around on this thread .

Fact of the matter for me is that the 1100t with its huge oc and it still give me some issues concerning the gtx570 while generating heat.

I really wouldn't downgrade unless i had some good reason or i decided i wanted a different type of rig in which i do.

The $200 i pocketed for the next upgrade will more then likely be a 7850 with gtx570 or better performance with a much lower power envelope...match it with a ivy set up or drop a i5 2500 or i7 2600 and i got hell of a better rig then the 1100t don't i?

Point blank i decided i wanted a intel set up and wanted to pocket the difference and wait for the next generation stuff from intel and the 7000 series.

Now i did start a post a while back about the i3-2100 which has a few replies from gostumpy he has a similiar rig besides having a oced 6850 he posted numbers so i figured to leave performance numbers out as this is a cpu forum,not a BF3 benchmark and everyone knows the i3-2100 even on the stock cooler is a cool processor all over.

The same goes for the 6790,the build ended up having the cool n quiet theme to it.
 
Will do.

I disabled HBAO and played a bit in a 64 man Operation Firestorm map:

Min: 47
Max: 77
Avg: 62.850

Your average is very close to mine but i sit around 55 on that map.

My minimum is about 43 i believe on that map the max sorta jumps all over but i know it goes beyond 77 but really i don't care about that number.

At stock on your card i bet we come dangerously close the 6790 i got clocked right now has a 153gbps bandwidth which is huge but the texture fillrate is where it hurts performance.
 
i just ran GTA4 with i3 2120 and 9600GT. I'm shocked that performance is the same as with i3 2120 + GTX 560Ti. Just wanted to share this. On the same settings.
 
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