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Virgorising

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Okay, next you must upgrade to Windows 10 test release. ;)

:biggrin: I mean it, you should go on the road! That......was hi-larious, thank U for making me smile and giggle.:biggrin:
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Edit: my bookmark this page comes and goes. Just tried to log onto Twitter---tho I only Tweet when absolutely necessary, same deal: invalid entry. Yes, also after keying in both email & PW and manually.

Maybe Cyberfox don like Lavafox Red, or I messed it up. Not sure how, but U nevah know.

And, Underclocked (as am I....well, factory defaults).....re W 10, check THIS OUT re link below! Make note of MS now monitoring everything every nano, and we do not know if this is only in the test version. Bet it isn't. Talk about radicalizing into ISIS like sensibility, boy.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/review/2374175/windows-10-technical-preview-hands-on-review

Not to mention, do not install test version OF 10 in any system you do not want to burst into flames, and, make sure you wear a hazmat suit while installing it for maybe 9 hours (make sure U use the loo first!)....if U thought Ebola was bad, babe, U ain seen NUTHIN YET!D::sneaky: Now below, is HILARIOUS, RIGHT?

If we can offer one piece of advice about the Technical Preview, though, it's listen to the
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warnings - do not attempt to install it on a machine that you value. It's stable, and so far it seems safe enough, but it is not an easy ride. Between download errors, corrupted downloads, BIOS settings, UEFI settings, making USB stick
, crashing installations, CD drives that "burn too fast" - Microsoft's words - and finally installing successfully by doing a fresh install on a completely separate hard drive, took nine hours.
And we do this for a living and we have been for 14 years. This is not something that Aunty Maude can do between knitting, baking cakes and turning on the TV for that nice Alexander Armstrong.
This is for a spare computer, on a spare hard drive when you have a spare Sunday. If you do it on your main BYOD machine, you will waste days, time and probably lose customers, or even your job. There are people reading this and thinking: "They don't know what they're talking about. I am the king of computers. I'll do it in 45 minutes and make smug comments at the bottom of the article." Don't. Pride cometh before a fall. Power-users only.
And is it worth it? Well, no, not really.
 
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Isn't the Inquirer a tabloid? Not sure I'd really trust a tabloid when it comes to truth and honesty.
 

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I have it installed on a spare computer and it is used only for limited testing. Basically all it is at this point is what would have been Windows 8.2 with a few added tweaks (very few). Runs stable as a rock but I must say that when I upgraded to the latest build things went a little nuts until I installed the two updates that were ready and waiting. So far, it has been pretty boring. :)
And I'm not a bit concerned about what MS is monitoring (as in EVERYTHING) on THAT machiine. ;)

I've done a total of 4 Win 10 installs on that machine. One was a clean install then followed by an update install. As mentioned above, those installs went well save for the bit of wackiness prior to the windows updates. On another hard drive that had Windows 7 Pro installed, I did an upgrade first to the initial build and then to the 2nd build. That went smooth as silk. The installs were really quite expedient and required little input.

One odd thing about the preview builds so far is they don't include floppy drive support (an omission Microsoft says will be corrected). Yes, that machine has an unknown device floppy drive.
 
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I have it installed on a spare computer and it is used only for limited testing. Basically all it is at this point is what would have been Windows 8.2 with a few added tweaks (very few). Runs stable as a rock but I must say that when I upgraded to the latest build things went a little nuts until I installed the two updates that were ready and waiting. So far, it has been pretty boring. :)
And I'm not a bit concerned about what MS is monitoring (as in EVERYTHING) on THAT machiine. ;)

I've done a total of 4 Win 10 installs on that machine. One was a clean install then followed by an update install. As mentioned above, those installs went well save for the bit of wackiness prior to the windows updates. On another hard drive that had Windows 7 Pro installed, I did an upgrade first to the initial build and then to the 2nd build. That went smooth as silk. The installs were really quite expedient and required little input.

One odd thing about the preview builds so far is they don't include floppy drive support (an omission Microsoft says will be corrected). Yes, that machine has an unknown device floppy drive.

Wow! U R far more adventurous than I. Did test 8 early on, took me a long time to get over its reality (not just the first build), but you are the only human I know curious enuff to have actually tested this first (&, if seems, second) build of 10.

STABLE=GOOD. Cept why do we need it to begin with? The system I am on has no floppy drive....can't recall the last time I , or anyone I know used one, so, interesting MS feels omitting that function was a mistake.

Have fun adventure testing 10!:thumbsup: I liked that guy in the UK who wrote that piece has an adorable, sardonic sense of humor, tho.:cool:
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Edit: You may be interested in this:
http://www.techradar.com/us/reviews/pc-mac/software/operating-systems/windows-10-1267364/review

And below, a link within the above:

http://www.techradar.com/us/reviews/pc-mac/software/operating-systems/windows-10-1267364/review

See, to me, 7 is as stable as a rock and a real improvement over XP and with no downsides, only up, and I liked XP a lot back in the day.

But also to me, cross platform will always have downsides. Doesn't everyone know nothing and nobody can be all things to all people?
 
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Virgorising

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Browser update:

I don feel bad my second attempt to run Cyberfox failed, but I feel, however irrationally, I let fine helpers here down. I know....it's just me.

But good part: my perspective re my one teeny problem with PM 25 where I have to close the logoscreen upon opening the app, has broadened positive. I still like it a lot, and, again, hope PM face restores it to its former splendor.....at least, doesn't mess it up more.

Yes, after yesterday's attempt and testing.....I did uninstall it and all its residue and reg keys....again. But I learned and am so grateful for the input here in this.

I even wondered if that one of my add ons is Do Not Track, migrated from PM, messed up my ability to log into many of the sites I visit often.

But, for me, there were too many downsides to keep trying to run it, put it right, starting with changing to about:blank left me with the blinding white field.

I like others here adore it and it works well for them.:cool:
 

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Browser update:

I don feel bad my second attempt to run Cyberfox failed, but I feel, however irrationally, I let fine helpers here down. I know....it's just me.

But good part: my perspective re my one teeny problem with PM 25 where I have to close the logoscreen upon opening the app, has broadened positive. I still like it a lot, and, again, hope PM face restores it to its former splendor.....at least, doesn't mess it up more.

Yes, after yesterday's attempt and testing.....I did uninstall it and all its residue and reg keys....again. But I learned and am so grateful for the input here in this.

I even wondered if that one of my add ons is Do Not Track, migrated from PM, messed up my ability to log into many of the sites I visit often.

But, for me, there were too many downsides to keep trying to run it, put it right, starting with changing to about:blank left me with the blinding white field.

I like others here adore it and it works well for them.:cool:
As good as they sound, DoNotTrackMe and Disconnect break the web for me, pages sometimes don't load, can't logon here or there,

this is one site that I can never login, if I click the login button, nothing happens with those addons installed:

Hays

Try it and see

I have since then, just did 4 things:

1) In the options of the browser/Privacy, choose tell sites I do not want to be tracked

2) in ABP, I turn on the do not track feature, it's not as aggressive and works very well

3) I run SUPERAntiSpyware Free from time to time, not to find any malware, just to get rid of all the tracking cookies

4) Use a hosts file that blocks all bad sites/spyware/trackers like MVPS: MVPS Hosts File

That way you cannot even connect to bad sites accidentally and are so much more safer

This keeps me safe but doesn't break my browsing experience. No matter how good an add-on is, if it breaks the web, out the Window it goes, example: Ghostery / DoNotTrackMe / NoScript
 
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Virgorising

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As good as they sound, DoNotTrackMe and Disconnect break the web for me, pages sometimes don't load, can't logon here or there,

Wow. But see, until yesterday when I was giving Cyberfoxd a second go, evne with the add ons, I never had a problem logging in anywhere, starting with when I was running FX.

3) I run SUPERAntiSpyware Free from time to time, not to find any malware, just to get rid of all the tracking cookies

I run it too....but all my cleaner apps, I have several, get rid of tracking cookies, and yes, Superanti does a fab job in that.

This keeps me safe but doesn't break my browsing experience. No matter how good an add-on is, if it breaks the web, out the Window it goes, example: Ghostery / DoNotTrackMe / NoScript

????? U run scripts????? I am afraid to do that, even tho, I do get tired of having to hit "temporarily allow all this page" all the time. I just accept it as part of life.

NoScript makes me feel safer. Hope that's not an illusion.
 

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????? U run scripts????? I am afraid to do that, even tho, I do get tired of having to hit "temporarily allow all this page" all the time. I just accept it as part of life.

NoScript makes me feel safer. Hope that's not an illusion.
What scripts? have no idea what they are, all I run is an adblocker, a good antivirus (NOD32) that doesn't slow me down or give me any false positives, MVPS hosts file, and have never been infected :)
 

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What scripts? have no idea what they are, all I run is an adblocker, a good antivirus (NOD32) that doesn't slow me down or give me any false positives, MVPS hosts file, and have never been infected :)

I luv you've never been infected, I haven't either! Scripts not the enemy, only dangerous/malicious ones are. Like ones written to get all yr PWs. Blech.
 
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Berryracer

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I luv you've never been infected, I haven't either! Scripts not the enemy, only dangerous/malicious ones are.
I know, but IMHO, if you're well protected with a good hosts file plus an Antivirus that has HTTP scanning like NOD32 or Kaspersky (I'd never use Kaspersky though coz it's too heavy) then you're fine with one less add-on that cripples the web

Heck, with MVPS hosts file, I can even run with no ABP and I still see 0 ads because they're already blocked by the hosts file.
 

Virgorising

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I know, but IMHO, if you're well protected with a good hosts file plus an Antivirus that has HTTP scanning like NOD32 or Kaspersky (I'd never use Kaspersky though coz it's too heavy) then you're fine with one less add-on that cripples the web

Heck, with MVPS hosts file, I can even run with no ABP and I still see 0 ads because they're already blocked by the hosts file.

Interesting! I run Norton IS and like it a lot, excellent detection and lite as a feather, I never have to go near it, it updates and scans ongoing. I do not run either MBAM or Syperanti in real time.

But, again, I've been running NoScript for so long, I would be afraid to disable it. I could be wrong, but I never felt running it crippled anything.
 

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Interesting! I run Norton IS and like it a lot, excellent detection and lite as a feather, I never have to go near it, it updates and scans ongoing. I do not run either MBAM or Syperanti in real time.

But, again, I've been running NoScript for so long, I would be afraid to disable it. I could be wrong, but I never felt running it crippled anything.
I believe Norton also does scan for tracking cookies.

IMO, it's a waste to run NoScript with your setup, just add that MVPS hosts file and you're good.

But hey, whatever works for you, who am I to tell you what to use :whiste::wub:
 

Virgorising

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I believe Norton also does scan for tracking cookies.

It does, but in that function it's not as thorough as CCleaner and Superanti!!! there are no perfect apps.

IMO, it's a waste to run NoScript with your setup, just add that MVPS hosts file and you're good.

Humm. Not sure if I can get past living in fear of malicious scripts. but I will think about it for sure.

But hey, whatever works for you, who am I to tell you what to use

Not the point: point is, in rich exchanges, we all learn and often become open to new things and sometimes make positive changes!!!!
 

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One more re running scripts, etc....found this, I found it really interesting:

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/adblock-noscript-ghostery-trifecta-evil-opinion/

And this is the most important thing in that article:

From a user perspective, you’re going to find a whole host of features that don’t work as expected.

Yes dear, you're breaking your internet without even knowing it. You will be wondering, huh? why can't I login? why don't I see the login button, or any other feature of the site, when Ghostery or NoScript re behind it. As for the ads part, I disagree with him, I never minded ads in the past, sometimes they're actually good; but the internet has become a spam world with annoying popups that want to throw the ads down your throat, annoying auto play video ads that would scare the heck out of you if you're in a moment of peace, and I have to block every ad in the world for that. They spoiled it, so no, I am not gonna pay their salaries by displaying ads, let n00bs who don't know about adblocking do that ;)

But my point is, you hastily blamed Cyberfox at first that you were not able to login, or any other issues. Really, me personally, when a browser gets many updates, I reset my profile and start out with a fresh new profile to remove the bloat of old or uninstalled add-ons, and to ensure I get the latest optimizations since who knows if the upgrade successfully changes the settings and goodies that it brought or not, maybe your default settings break that.

Now with that being said, if you remember back in the day when I introduced you to Pale Moon, I advised to NOT to migrate your FF profile into Pale Moon, yes it may work, but you will run into issues. I would never ever migrate a profile from one browser to another to get the full user experience and to narrow down the problems so if I do run across a problem, I would be able to blame it on the browser or on the incorrect profile migration.

just my 2 cents worth :whiste:
 

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Yes dear, you're breaking your internet without even knowing it. You will be wondering, huh? why can't I login? why don't I see the login button, or any other feature of the site, when Ghostery or NoScript re behind it

I am always interested in wut U and other smart humans here say.....but truth is, I have never had a problem with any browser I've run, even including IE, and 11 isn't that terrible, I was raised to hate it early on.

But my point is, you hastily blamed Cyberfox at first that you were not able to login, or any other issues. Really, me personally, when a browser gets many updates, I reset my profile and start out with a fresh new profile to remove the bloat of old or uninstalled add-ons, and to ensure I get the latest optimizations since who knows if the upgrade successfully changes the settings and goodies that it brought or not, maybe your default settings break that.

I did indeed....simply, because the problems it presented were both serious & unique in my experience. While correlation does not imply causation, my blaming Cyberfox was logical. And I also entertained that some of my add ons in migration might have messed sumthin up.

Now with that being said, if you remember back in the day when I introduced you to Pale Moon, I advised to NOT to migrate your FF profile into Pale Moon, yes it may work, but you will run into issues. I would never ever migrate a profile from one browser to another to get the full user experience and to narrow down the problems so if I do run across a problem, I would be able to blame it on the browser or on the incorrect profile migration.

I think logically, this is good advice and I respect yr standards.....but I did migrate FX to PM and never had a problem, and in most ways, still don't.

Perhaps, if I had done a clean install of Cyberfox, no migrating, and taken the time to configure it in every way anew, it would have functioned normally. But, see, in my case, the real issue is, again, my one problem with PM 25 really is miniscule now that I can close out the logoscreen; in every other way, it works as well as it always has. I get from this thread and a previous one, and what I see on the net elsewhere, alas, that's not true for everyone.

Everyone says I am way fussy, but, I think, not as fussy as U! And I ain dissing fussy!

But I am uberly fussy about having my chosen theme, which brings me much happiness, present normally....as opposed to a blinding white field. It seems my fussies (new word) are less sophisticated than yours!:sneaky:

Some of my fussies, beyond expecting basic functions work... are, OK....SHALLOW.:cool: i.e., I need themes and skins that make me happy, and I hate most of them; my Aero color green must be my version of the perfect green, not too much yellow or blue; when I ran XP I had all custom colors I mixed for everything.....and I could not be happy without my Lavafox RED. I also make custom cursors, all left handed, and also some custom icons. I even need Iconoid to make custom colors for my desktop icon TITLES to match my Aero green. Sad, but true.

So, fussy, truly is individual specific! I mean, beyond function which always comes first.

To me, blue and gray were fine in the Civil War.:whiste:
 
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Berryracer

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I am always interested in wut U and other smart humans here say.....but truth is, I have never had a problem with any browser I've run, even including IE, and 11 isn't that terrible, I was raised to hate it early on.



I did indeed....simply, because the problems it presented were both serious & unique in my experience. While correlation does not imply causation, my blaming Cyberfox was logical. And I also entertained that some of my add ons in migration might have messed sumthin up.



I think logically, this is good advice and I respect yr standards.....but I did migrate FX to PM and never had a problem, and in most ways, still don't.

Perhaps, if I had done a clean install of Cyberfox, no migrating, and taken the time to configure it in every way anew, it would have functioned normally. But, see, in my case, the real issue is, again, my one problem with PM 25 really is miniscule now that I can close out the logoscreen; in every other way, it works as well as it always has. I get from this thread and a previous one, and what I see on the net elsewhere, alas, that's not true for everyone.

Everyone says I am way fussy, but, I think, not as fussy as U! And I ain dissing fussy!

But I am uberly fussy about having my chosen theme, which brings me much happiness, present normally....as opposed to a blinding white field. It seems my fussies (new word) are less sophisticated than yours!:sneaky:

Some of my fussies, beyond demanding basic functions work... are, OK....SHALLOW.:cool:
I always thought my English was perfect, until I started reading your posts, I have to click back and forth in Google Translate to translate what you type! LOL I learn new vocabulary with every post you make :wub:
 

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I always thought my English was perfect, until I started reading your posts, I have to click back and forth in Google Translate to translate what you type! LOL I learn new vocabulary with every post you make :wub:


K, I refuse to believe that! Totally refuse. I mean it.o_O I have a good ear, so can riff with anyone in any milieu....but I am way into literacy and rich communication. Also true, I sometimes post on TMZ....cause again, I have a happy shallow side re pop culture, and sometimes have to work to try not to post using beyond one syllable words while still being literate and sane and making my point. U would not believe some of the people on that site, OMG. Coupla of my friends have very young kids who are every bit as literate as I or anyone I know. I just cherish that. Course, they also have smart phones way better than mine.

Texting and such as Twitter truly are having uberly negative impacts re communication. Every time I text, Proust rotates in his grave.:whiste:
 
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Again, this, below, is vivid & clean and simply SUBLIME. It makes me happy. No other theme, no other browser's graphics do. It also comes in blue and green, tho I only like the red. Just that its entirety seemed in harms way, thankfully, briefly in PM, upset me greatly. And in Cyberfox, I could not restore the full, normal theme in the GUI, only at the top. Tho that was not the worst problem, as I have shared.

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Virgorising

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hmm I might actually try that Lavafox theme, looks nice

Ahah! GOTTCHA!:biggrin:

PS: If U get it, I will be dying to know if you can get it to display properly in the whole Cyberfox GUI!
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Edit: C....someone should turn Lavafox Red into fabric! Then, use it to make little dresses and tops!!! I am not kidding. But of course, pay the guy who made it in the first place.
 
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Virgorising

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Checking this out...Avira doesn't like profilebuddy.exe, in version 1.03, suggesting TR/Dropper.MSIL.Gen8 is present.

Did U follow up re what they say is an insect? Gotta make sure that's not a false positive. I used it and none of my protection apps said word one. And Norton is very fussy! In fact, pretty sure when I downloaded and unpacked it, Norton presented one of its lower right "This is safe" pop ups.
 
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