Very disappointed with my overclock - Need advice.

[charloscarlies]

Well I'm running the system in my sig, and I would have to say I'm very disappointed. I can't even get to 3.6 ghz stable at 1.65-1.7 volts. This is what I tried:

- 5/4 divider
- lax timings (which shouldn't be neccesary when running below default ram speeds neways right?)
- vdimm bumped to 2.6 and 2.7 (also not sure if neccesary...but i tired it)
- vcore from 1.65 to 1.7
- hyperthreading off (did nothing)
- pci/agp locked

I can't think of whatever else I tried, but absolutely nothing worked. I could boot into Windows at 3.6 but it would hard freeze on me within 15 minutes. I then rebooted and set everything to default, and within 5 minutes it froze on me again.

I'm starting to wonder if this board just doesn't overclock very well. I've tried 2 different chips without much success. I noticed a tiny bit of fluctuation on my vcore though. Could this be the Albatron's fault or more likely my psu? The only reason I ruled out my psu was because I never once had a problem in my previous setup.

I'm considering just ditching this board in favor of a nicer 865 or possibly an 875. Do you guys think this is a good idea? What models you you recommend? Should I also try another power supply while I'm at it?

 

[Big Lar]

Whats your supplys specs at default? Could be the board, can't really comment on that, as I have never run that board. However, what is mam set at, also, for yuks, try 1.5875 to see what happens, alot of boards don't like the high voltages and you really shouldn't need em. Whats the s spec of the chip?

EDIT: BTW, Try consolidating your threads.

 

[apoppin]

(more likely) could be the CPU. What max speed are you completely stable at?

3.5Ghz is STILL a 500Mhz O/C which is kinda average (i think) right now.

My recently bult 2.80c tops out at 3.31ghz at default voltage . . . I can push it to 3.4 with a modest voltage increase (temps stay reasonable) and 3.5 if I feel kinda "crazy" with the voltage . . .

. . . honestly there isn't that much performance increase with the extra 190Mhz . . . or any I can NOTICE (other than benchs).

I assume your power supply is plenty for what's in your case . . .

. . . NO IDEA about your MB - if it's the CPU, you wasted $$$.

look at it this way . . . you got a 3.4+Ghz for the price of a 3.0 . . .

What I am going to do is WAIT until next year when the P4 Northwoods get cheap, sell my 2.8 and buy a 3.40c with last steppings that I imagine will O/C very well over 4.0Ghz - now that'll give a little extra life to an older (then) platform.

Other things to try -

try running first with one stick of ram then with the other (and shift the ram in the slots) . . .

enable HT and make sure your ram is DC (slots 1 +3 or 2+4)

I don't know about your MB's BIOS, but my Abit IC7 allows for automatic setting and manual . . . try forcing different manual variables.

EDIT: It is your CPU . . . an AMD a64 3200 WILL NOT run at 3.0+Ghz My above suggestions are general o/c'ing notes . . . geez, if you can get into Windows "that high", take a screen shot.

 

[MichaelZ]

Each CPU is different. How much it can OC usually depends on itself, the chipset it's hooked up to and the quality of the board. And for god's sake lower the voltage. If it's not going to stay stable, forcing it won't work.

Some 865PE boards can OC just as much as a 875 board so it's either the CPU or the board itself. I personally had some bad experiences with Albatron products and I won't pay for them ever again to say the least. The amount of dead slots and ports on my Albatron MB in the spare rig is laughable.

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actually come to think of it, it might just be ur ram. ur running 2,2,2,6 which is quite fast. is that the rated timings? if not in order to keep that ram stable you might wanna try upping the ram voltage a bit more. try 3.3 just to make sure it's not the ram.

 

[THUGSROOK]

it sounds to me like you dont know what you are doing.
you better take a step back and learn a little more about OCing before trying again.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
it sounds to me like you dont know what you are doing.
you better take a step back and learn a little more about OCing before trying again.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
it sounds to me like you dont know what you are doing.
you better take a step back and learn a little more about OCing before trying again.

Isn't that what this forum is for?

I'd say about 50-75%of the posts in this forum are from noobs "who don't know what they are doing".

How do you determine who is worthy of getting help here?

EDIT: It'd be really simple just to say a A64 3200 WON'T run at 3.6 Ghz . . . something I should have said in my previous post.

 

[Jeff7181]

Trying to get an AMD 64 3200 to run at 3.6 Ghz?????? Might be time to edit your post =)

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Trying to get an AMD 64 3200 to run at 3.6 Ghz?????? Might be time to edit your post =)

You're right.

It'd be really simple just to post that instead of say "go elsewhere" learn and comeback when you are worthy . . .

and - 2nd edit - the way charloscarlies described it (with the 865/875 chipset), you'd think he was talking about a P4 . . .

no longer

 

[oldfart]

- 5/4 divider
- hyperthreading off (did nothing)
- pci/agp locked
I'm considering just ditching this board in favor of a nicer 865 or possibly an 875

Sure sounds like P4 to me......Does not match what is in his sig.....

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: oldfart

- 5/4 divider
- hyperthreading off (did nothing)
- pci/agp locked
I'm considering just ditching this board in favor of a nicer 865 or possibly an 875

Sure sounds like P4 to me......Does not match what is in his sig.....

No kidding . . . IF I was "alert" last night I would have called BS - not inexperience - on the entire post.

Yep he got an A-64 03/03/2004 3:22 PM
"I just picked up my A64 3200 today" "


Then he claims he got a 3.0c03/04/2004 9:18 PM
"Ok I just got my 3.0C today


I think the problems are with the poster. He just got an A-64 on 3/3 AND a 3.0c on 3/4 (both "today")

Unless he explains (convincingly), I am going to forget answering his future posts . . .
(and warn others about wasting their time)

 

[THUGSROOK]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
it sounds to me like you dont know what you are doing.
you better take a step back and learn a little more about OCing before trying again.

Isn't that what this forum is for?

I'd say about 50-75%of the posts in this forum are from noobs "who don't know what they are doing".

How do you determine who is worthy of getting help here?

i wasnt trying to be rude.
we cant help him if he doesnt know how to ask the right questions.

he's going about this completely wrong.
you dont just go for 3.6ghz and then get pissed off cause it doesnt even boot.

OCing is a science, and you need to use the scientific method.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
it sounds to me like you dont know what you are doing.
you better take a step back and learn a little more about OCing before trying again.

Isn't that what this forum is for?

I'd say about 50-75%of the posts in this forum are from noobs "who don't know what they are doing".

How do you determine who is worthy of getting help here?

i wasnt trying to be rude.
we cant help him if he doesnt know how to ask the right questions.

he's going about this completely wrong.
you dont just go for 3.6ghz and then get pissed off cause it doesnt even boot.

OCing is a science, and you need to use the scientific method.

I should have read his post(s) more carefully. You were 100% right and I should have been ruder . . . His topic is complete BS.

 

[Flyermax2k3]

This thread makes no sense. Does the OP have an A64 or a P4, and, if both, which is he describing in his post?

 

[THUGSROOK]

my advice to all n00bies:

learn how to tweak out your system @ default speed before attempting OCing. you need to know the ins and out of how your bios "works" to get the most from your system @ any speed. knowing what should be enabled or disabled in your bios will make your experience much more enjoyable and productive.

HTH

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
my advice to all n00bies:

learn how to tweak out your system @ default speed before attempting OCing. you need to know the ins and out of how your bios "works" to get the most from your system @ any speed. knowing what should be enabled or disabled in your bios will make your experience much more enjoyable and productive.

HTH

Good advice... it also helps to understand what every setting does, so when you change things and a problem arises, you can eliminate 90% of the settings in the BIOS right off the bat.

 

[Big Lar]

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Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
my advice to all n00bies:

learn how to tweak out your system @ default speed before attempting OCing. you need to know the ins and out of how your bios "works" to get the most from your system @ any speed. knowing what should be enabled or disabled in your bios will make your experience much more enjoyable and productive.

HTH
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Good advice... it also helps to understand what every setting does, so when you change things and a problem arises, you can eliminate 90% of the settings in the BIOS right off the bat.

And here all along I was out of context, and thought the reason for a forum like this, was to Help the new Peeps, sheesh, I just must be dumb! <eyeroll>

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Originally posted by: Big Lar
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Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
my advice to all n00bies:

learn how to tweak out your system @ default speed before attempting OCing. you need to know the ins and out of how your bios "works" to get the most from your system @ any speed. knowing what should be enabled or disabled in your bios will make your experience much more enjoyable and productive.

HTH
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Good advice... it also helps to understand what every setting does, so when you change things and a problem arises, you can eliminate 90% of the settings in the BIOS right off the bat.

And here all along I was out of context, and thought the reason for a forum like this, was to Help the new Peeps, sheesh, I just must be dumb! <eyeroll>

KILL TEH N00B!!!!!!!1111oneone!!!!1

 

[apoppin]

Look, someone is missing the point . . .
. . . Helping someone who needs help is one thing - noob or not . . .

But wasting time with a "made-up" system is beyond irritating.

charloscarlies claimes to have BOTH a 3.0c P4 AND an A64 3200+ and seems to have mixed them both up (thoroughly).