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Verizon, Sprint to Cut Alt.* Usenet Hierarchy and Time Warner will be dropping Usenet entirely
- Thread starter Shawn
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It sucks, but I'm surprised it didn't happen a few years ago. The total number of people that use usenet is probably maybe 10% of their base; I'd say that fewer than 10% of the 10% that use it use it for ANY legal purpose (and a fraction of that uses it _only_ for legal purposes)...and from their perspective, making it available is just more liability.
pcslookout
Lifer
Who cares it is not like isp newsgroup access is worth using. Most people will just go to BT instead anyway. A lot of people don't like to pay.
It's less than that. 3% or less. Which is why they can drop it without worrying too much. All the other ISPs have given it up mostly as well. If you want it now, you'll pay separately for it. The cost of the equipment and infrastructure necessary to support Usenet for only a few percent of their user base...just doesn't make sense from a business standpoint and this child porn drama just gives them a perfect excuse to ax it.
GagHalfrunt
Lifer
Because they want to dump usenet and the "88 offending groups" provide a convenient excuse.
And p2p apps will be the next to go. Then redtube, then youtube and then anything else that uses more bandwidth than email.
Nah, because most folks still wouldn't be able to figure it out...and would continue torrenting away anyway. Add in the cost of the equipment and infrastructure necessary to support Usenet (which has grown enormously in the last couple years) and it's a losing proposition. I remember when the full Usenet feed went over 1TB daily people went nuts. Haven't looked lately but I know it is much above that now. The bandwidth and storage requirements have simply gotten to be too much for ISPs to deal with, and for far too few users.
FWIW there is a Giganews special for TW/RR where you can get unlimited SSL for like $15 a month. If you're too cheap to cough that up, stick with the torrents. (Not directed at OP or you, her209, just a general observation.)
pcslookout
Lifer
Are you the same person that keeps posting about this on other forums ?
pcslookout
Lifer
Thought so.
GagHalfrunt
Lifer
It's hardly the "slippery slope argument". From the dawn of the internet ISPs have complained about the 5% of users consuming 95% of the bandwidth and looking to dump those people. So get off the soapbox for a minute and apply a brain cell or two. What happens when usenet goes bye-bye? Yes, the existing top 5% of users lose their outlet. Then what happens? Are you really living in a fantasy world where that's going to satisfy the ISPs? They'll cut capacity to cut costs and they'll find themselves right back in the same equation. A new group of 5% will be consuming 95% of the resources and that will be the p2p-ers. If they survive dumping usenet (and they will) they'll happily dump p2p too just to get rid of the pesky 5% who are supposedly ruining things for everyone else. And if p2p gets blocked the heaviest users will find a new venue for their porn and they'll turn to redtube, youporn and 1000 others that will spring up overnight. The ISPs want to get rid of the heaviest users and there will ALWAYS be a group of heavier users whether than use is usenet, p2p, streaming porn, or whatever else.
And get real, WTF cares if teenagers are rioting in the streets over youtube getting blocked? Teenagers are not paying the bills, teenagers are the demographic the ISPs want to get rid of.
